Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[GoatsMilk]

late 1600s the Ottomans repelled Russian attacks on Crimea. In the 1500s and 1600s the Ottomans contained Russian ambitions in the black sea and the cauacsu

To me fair most of those wars the Russians came with allies from europe. But a critical moment that really signified how bad Turkish politics was the battle of Pruth.

Russian historians claim that the Turks lost an Opportunity to end Russia as an empire.

"Alexander Mikaberidze argues that Baltacı Mehmet Pasha made an important strategic mistake by signing the treaty with relatively easy terms for the Russians.[16] Since Peter himself was commanding the Russian army, and had Baltacı Mehmet Pasha not accepted Peter's peace proposal and pursued to capture him as a prisoner instead, the course of history could have changed. Without Peter, Russia would have hardly become an imperial power, and the future arch-enemy of the Ottoman State in the Balkans, the Black Sea basin and the Caucasus."

That whole period of "winning on the battlefield but losing at the table" really killed the Ottomans.

 

[Lool]

Shameful act from India tbh
I would understand from China but from India which presumably calls itself as secular and cares about human rights? I swear I thought that India would havevoted yes to the resolution
Shameful acts that show their true colours; nothing more to expect considering what they are doing to ppl in kashmir....... Typical leaders in different countries, I guess

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497344881919942663

 

[Nilgiri]

First day was pure shock and awe. Almost everyone thought it would be over quickly. But now that the dust has settled, it is apparent that the Ukrainian Military is still standing and willing to fight. The initial barrage of strikes with cruise and anti-radiation missiles caught Ukraine off guard. They could have capitulated, but surprisingly they haven't.

Seems like many Russian air assets are dropping out the sky, which makes me question their ability to control the airspace in key places such as Kyiv. They know this, and that's why they are sending troops and vehicles into strategic areas, with the hopes of overwhelming Ukraine on the ground. However, troop and AFV losses are heavy as a result of the lack of good air support and aerial reconnaissance.

Russia will likely continue sending in missiles to strike remaining air defences and air fields. Otherwise air support will continue to be costly.

More or less this was wargamed in by ukrainian commanders early.

They knew the bad hand they had been dealt with (by their politicians decision not to arm more intensively and mobilise earlier)....so it (russian shock and awe start) was among the 10 or so situations war gamed...and prepared for.

Along with weaknesses like too small airforce (that take longer to address) gamed in.

They are playing out of manstein's play book IMO....with enough retreat (manstein glove) to draw out logisitical weakness in russian column flanks....and use cities (esp kiev) as somewhat of a shield (like manstein did with fist under the glove).

Ukraine is counting on russia not escalating things to pyrrhic level (w.r.t Kiev) basically in providing this shield.....as a bypass siege would drain russian willpower and resources even more.

Zelensky is trying to negotiate sometime in the interim I heard.....and can do so from reasonable enough terms IMO.....as he can bunker in lviv or further west for sometime and let russian logistics draw out even more in central ukraine or atrophy as they are north of kiev (and become NLAW ripe hunting ground along with whatever guerilla warfare needed).

This has demoralised a lot of russian troops already and it is showing.....

Let us watch kiev for a few more days...this is key area in this phase (given there seems to be about 3 phases russians have planned if you look at the 60k commitment so far out of 200k guys).

 

[Khan Kubrat]

Don't talk rubbish and give me your shallow analysis. All it is your jealousy on Anglo Saxons. For all their faults they always made a lot of useful things and contribute a lot to this world socially, intellectually, technologically etc. What have you ever contributed? Russia is country of 17 million sq km , all resources and economy smaller than Spain. Poor and powerless sumped without impunity, history filled with endless primitive massacres. Filth cities with alcoholics , depressive and ugly. It was like that always. I wonder are you all suffering from massive psychosis ? Do you ever have any realistic picture of yourself? Ever ? Be great full fir a second that you have some decent life now due to the West. I remember when I travelled to your country in 80s and what misery it was , how your shill counted number of the sweets on my plate I remember Zhivkov and terror on Turkish people and I know once upon time Muslims were the majority in your country till you eliminated them in the mist brutal way. Do you think that you can lecture any one here . There is no bone of decency in you

Lets not forget that both world wars were started in Europe.....and the British empire was at the center of it. They wanted to cut down the Germans and baited them into a conflict, then set up all conditions for WWII. What happened after that? British empire collapse

You need to separate Western achievements outside of war with your war "achievements" - non-stop conflict since WWII. Ask the people of Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Afgahnistan, Serbia how they feel about your bombings? Western media never EVER tells the other side of the story bcause they are full of narcissism

Its too bad that post-cold war instead of proving to us they are about peace, they instead chose to go on rampage like maniacs in the Middle East. Sudden;y how come nobody talks about this "islamic terrorism"? It just stopped all of a sudden because the NATO terrorists re-shifted focus on China and Russia and dropped supporting for Sunni Takfiris and Wahhabi mercenaries. Turkey now is in charge of them. UK and US is disgrace to Western civilization

You know Bulgaria like Croatia and Romania were used by NATO to arm Surian terrorists? All grad missiles come from Bulgaria via Qatar Airways, Saudi Airlines and Silk Air (Azerbaijan airlines) and smuggle into Suria via ...TURKIYE and Jordan!!! Bulgaria regime is NATO puppet. I am ashamed that this has been done against the Surian people of Levant. Levant people are some of the best Arabs I have known

 

[McCool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497354030904975364

 

[guest_07]

Shameful act from India tbh
I would understand from China but from India which presumably calls itself as secular and cares about human rights? I swear I thought that India would havevoted yes to the resolution
Shameful acts that show their true colours; nothing more to expect considering what they are doing to ppl in kashmir....... Typical leaders in different countries, I guess

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497344881919942663

I more disappointed with UAE.
Are they still Sunni Muslim?

 

[AWP]

Shameful act from India tbh
I would understand from China but from India which presumably calls itself as secular and cares about human rights? I swear I thought that India would havevoted yes to the resolution

1- india is a good ally to russia .

2- in the future they don't want russia to stand against them incase of chinese-indian war .

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497354030904975364

Enforcing a NFZ would be tantamount to a war with NATO though.

NATO is already announcing providing air defence systems to ukraine (along with "other weapons").... to call that bluff Putin made (about instant reaction to outside help).

I doubt they will call it even harder than that....as they will gauge what Putin's response is on what they announced just now.

NATO allies to provide more weapons to Ukraine, Stoltenberg says

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Friday the alliance was deploying parts of its combat-ready response force and would continue to send weapons to Ukraine, including air defences, while saying that Russia was trying to topple the Ukrainian government.

www.reuters.com

 

[AWP]

I wish if you all understand arabic language . the coverage of Al Jazeera is truly remarkable

 

[McCool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497343565290164231

 

[Lool]

I more disappointed with UAE.
Are they still Sunni Muslim?

You think UAE cares about Islam?
They aided Ethiopia in its takeover of the Nile river; thus, possible impoverishing around 100 million Muslim, Sunni, Egyptians
They wanted to control all of Libya's wealth; thus, they personally funded an outright cruel war in which thousands of Libyan Sunni Muslims were killed

We can go on and on but it still wont make a difference
In the Middle East and Arab countries specifically, the ppl are the furthest thing from Islam rn..... this is the truth

 

[McCool]

Lets not forget that both world wars were started in Europe.....and the British empire was at the center of it. They wanted to cut down the Germans and baited them into a conflict, then set up all conditions for WWII. What happened after that? British empire collapse

You need to separate Western achievements outside of war with your war "achievements" - non-stop conflict since WWII. Ask the people of Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Afgahnistan, Serbia how they feel about your bombings? Western media never EVER tells the other side of the story bcause they are full of narcissism

Its too bad that post-cold war instead of proving to us they are about peace, they instead chose to go on rampage like maniacs in the Middle East. Sudden;y how come nobody talks about this "islamic terrorism"? It just stopped all of a sudden because the NATO terrorists re-shifted focus on China and Russia and dropped supporting for Sunni Takfiris and Wahhabi mercenaries. Turkey now is in charge of them. UK and US is disgrace to Western civilization

You know Bulgaria like Croatia and Romania were used by NATO to arm Surian terrorists? All grad missiles come from Bulgaria via Qatar Airways, Saudi Airlines and Silk Air (Azerbaijan airlines) and smuggle into Suria via ...TURKIYE and Jordan!!! Bulgaria regime is NATO puppet. I am ashamed that this has been done against the Surian people of Levant. Levant people are some of the best Arabs I have known

The TURKS here just like me follow the Syrian war very closely.

And we all here know the ones bombing Syria into rubble is not NATO but the dog Assad with his Iranian and Russian ally.

You might want to spread your propaganda in Russia defense forum not here. I'm sure the Turks are ready ignorinh you lmfao

 

[Khan Kubrat]

You think UAE cares about Islam?
They aided Ethiopia in its takeover of the Nile river; thus, possible impoverishing around 100 million Muslim, Sunni, Egyptians
They wanted to control all of Libya's wealth; thus, they personally funded an outright cruel war in which thousands of Libyan Sunni Muslims were killed

We can go on and on but it still wont make a difference
In the Middle East and Arab countries specifically, the ppl are the furthest thing from Islam rn..... this is the truth

UAE become now an Israeli testing laboratory. UAE forces occupying Yemen as well. And failures in Syria and Libya did not help. UAE should wake up a little bit like Qatar and smell the sea change. Ending the war in Yemen would help them reclaim some credibility

 

[Nilgiri]

Advances have been slow. Full invasion either is not planned or not started yet.

Likely rotation phases to see/test ukraine and west too.

Phase 2 will be after a few days if they proceed with it....you dont want to keep the same demoralised guys in the bridgehead and columns.....you have to rotate them with fresher bunch....this is already starting in places.

It is (in thousands) about 60 + 60 + 60 (for the guys being rotated) ..... with 20 in full reserve IMO.....and about 1 month duration sketched out to some degree.

Past that and the costs really escalate for Russia in my estimation.

 

[Abdelaziz]

I more disappointed with UAE.
Are they still Sunni Muslim?

No .. their only religion is

 

[Khan Kubrat]

The TURKS here just like me follow the Syrian war very closely.

And we all here know the ones bombing Syria into rubble is not NATO but the dog Assad with his Iranian and Russian ally.

You might want to spread your propaganda in Russia defense forum not here. I'm sure the Turks are ready ignorinh you lmfao

Are you aware that as we speak American forces are stealing Syrian oil in the Conoco oil fields with the SDF gypsy? If you think NATO is helping Suria, you are probably still on Captagon tablets

Surian people are grateful to their allies for preventing collapse. NATO is a terrorist organization. They didn't want the Iran-Iraq-Suria pipeline (the FRIENDSHIP pipeline) and instead wanted the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. This was worth it for them to murder, injure and dispace millions of Surians. You cannot hide these war crimes any longer. They have been documented for many decades, the list is getting long.

 

[AWP]

Reports that ukrainians have crushed the russian in Vasylkiv south of Kyiv

Glory to the ukrainians

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497403061542834178

 

[McCool]

Are you aware that as we speak American forces are stealing Syrian oil in the Conoco oil fields with the SDF gypsy? If you think NATO is helping Suria, you are probably still on Captagon tablets

US steals Syrian oil. Russia bombed Aleppo and most of the country and turn the entire population into refugees. Not to mention multiple war crimes like bombing hospital.

I think the readers out there knows who's the more evil one

 

[McCool]

Reports that ukrainians have crushed the russian in Vasylkiv south of Kyiv

Glory to the ukrainians

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497403061542834178

SLAVA UKRAIN

 

[Khan Kubrat]

And you propose China as the liberators? A country that has territorial dispute with endless number of the countries. Keeping concentration camps for the millions of Uygurs ? Which since 1949 has no original thought? Where Beijing Wenker proudly announces here the opening toilet in his local park, a number get number for posting the numbers . Orwellian totalitarian, unnecessary cruel minds who have no semblance of their own history . Country of abstract patriotism, a bit nazi a bit fascist a bit Communist a bit Socialists a bit of everything apart what it was.
And as of your theories of conspiracies, well you just use it to justify to yourself and others your claim for yourself . I know full well what is Jacobin Cult and how it came about and its purpose at end of the day , they insomuch openly said it, Lous Blanc , Sorrel etc. Observed by Barrauel , Webster and others and in difference to your ravings it is incredibly well referenced , documented and presented.

I find it very non believable that West cares about Muslims in China after killing millions of them in the Middle East for Zionist in Israel. Who are you fooling?
And another strange thing I noticed, West says its against "islamic extremism" so what do they do? They try to remove the SECULAR guys like Qaddafi, Saddam and Assad. And then they complain that Iran became powerful? And radcial takfiri are everywhere. Refugees in Europe is direct consequence of these stupid regime changes

I'm not sure if brains are in control