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Let's look at the course of events. Do not forget that any cool toy is useless in the hands of a demoralized army, the war is won by manpower, not weapons. The fighting spirit and motivation of people is very important and history is proof of this.
Um, history is full of famous examples of a well-equipped and technologically and tactically superior army triumphing over a more numerous foe. Doubly so if the army in question is well-motivated and Ukrainians certainly are - no greater motivation than the defense of one's own home.
 

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Watch on YouTube how Syrians with Kalashnikovs and slippers destroy the Saudis. The Saudis occupy a fortified defensive position on the hill, armed to the teeth with heavy machine guns, mortars and grenade launchers. But a quick surprise attack by the Syrians forces the Saudis to flee from the hill, and this is their critical mistake that leads to their death. There were many such protected hills. An unexpected maneuver always puts a fighter into a stupor
Houthis are Syrians now?
 

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Shit is gonna become even more difficult for Ukraine and it still didnt retake Kherson; thus, effectively ensuring that Russia jas nearly complete control of the South and East.
The Russian units leaving Mariupol will probably start invading other cities or probably be used as pincer forces against Ukraine in the East
Bloody hell




Again, for those who dont know, this is the importance of Kherson

Taking of Azovstal is cancelled. Russia's basically given up on trying to have full control of Mariupol.

"But it's just a steel works facility!"

Yeah and like 1/8 of the city that Russia was trying to take. Now 12 BTGs are gonna be stuck guarding it to make sure Azov Battalion doesn't start raiding their supply lines while they have their backs turned. And even that's probably not going to work considering Azov's raid yesterday to free a bunch of their buddies that were surrounded by Russian troops.
 

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Taking of Azovstal is cancelled. Russia's basically given up on trying to have full control of Mariupol.

"But it's just a steel works facility!"

Yeah and like 1/8 of the city that Russia was trying to take. Now 12 BTGs are gonna be stuck guarding it to make sure Azov Battalion doesn't start raiding their supply lines while they have their backs turned. And even that's probably not going to work considering Azov's raid yesterday to free a bunch of their buddies that were surrounded by Russian troops.
Do you seriously believe that Russia will stop its advances in Mariupol? This is just a propaganda move to show that Putin "cares" about the lives of his soldiers

I already posted a video showing the relocation of several troops from Mariupol to the front lines in the south and East

This is also proven from another source👇


I have no problem in being optimistic but even that has limits
Rn, Russia is slowly gaining territory and will soon proclaim that all of the East and South are Russian territory... Period!
While countries like Germany are starting to shy around from supplying even more weapons for Ukraine. Rn, the only countries actively supporting Ukraine are US, Canada, Turkey, and UK. However, for how long can these supplies continue? Time is not in Ukraine's favour and the moment the US feels that Russia has been damaged enough, they will pull out and I dont think Erdogan will support Ukraine alone tbh. Erdo himself did get what he wanted from this war, albeit losing a lot in return
 

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Do you seriously believe that Russia will stop its advances in Mariupol? This is just a propaganda move to show that Putin "cares" about the lives of his soldiers

I already posted a video showing the relocation of several troops from Mariupol to the front lines in the south and East

This is also proven from another source👇


I have no problem in being optimistic but even that has limits
Rn, Russia is slowly gaining territory and will soon proclaim that all of the East and South are Russian territory... Period!
While countries like Germany are starting to shy around from supplying even more weapons for Ukraine. Rn, the only countries actively supporting Ukraine are US, Canada, Turkey, and UK. However, for how long can these supplies continue? Time is not in Ukraine's favour and the moment the US feels that Russia has been damaged enough, they will pull out and I dont think Erdogan will support Ukraine alone tbh. Erdo himself did get what he wanted from this war, albeit losing a lot in return

Ukraine does not have unlimited manpower and materiel to waste unlike the Russians.

Ukraine cant afford to lose more men.

This war has proven once again it will end up as a stalemate.
 

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Do you seriously believe that Russia will stop its advances in Mariupol? This is just a propaganda move to show that Putin "cares" about the lives of his soldiers

I already posted a video showing the relocation of several troops from Mariupol to the front lines in the south and East

This is also proven from another source👇


I have no problem in being optimistic but even that has limits
Rn, Russia is slowly gaining territory and will soon proclaim that all of the East and South are Russian territory... Period!
While countries like Germany are starting to shy around from supplying even more weapons for Ukraine. Rn, the only countries actively supporting Ukraine are US, Canada, Turkey, and UK. However, for how long can these supplies continue? Time is not in Ukraine's favour and the moment the US feels that Russia has been damaged enough, they will pull out and I dont think Erdogan will support Ukraine alone tbh. Erdo himself did get what he wanted from this war, albeit losing a lot in return
Russian higher-ups may not want to stop but that's not up to them. It's up to the soldiers, some of whom are already starting to refuse to fight. Not to mention that Russia does not have infinite supplies and manpower to throw at Ukraine let alone a steel plant in ONE GODDAMN CITY.

What is that tweet supposed to prove? Oh gosh, Kadyrovites are in Kherson. So what?

Russia makes some gains and loses others. Ukraine has already successfully counter-attacked and dislodged them from previously captured regions so even claiming that they are making any progress is overly generous.

What exactly did Erdogan lose from this war? Russian "support"? Not really. If anything this war has raised Turkey's importance in Russia because Russia is getting screwed by virtually everyone else in Europe so whoever didn't completely cut them loose is now being clung on like a shipwrecked sailor to a life raft.

No offense Lool but you seem to be going weirdly out of your way to defend Russia here and keep talking about how "doomed" Ukraine is. That may be so but you aren't making very convincing arguments for it.
 

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Ukraine does not have unlimited manpower and materiel to waste unlike the Russians.

Ukraine cant afford to lose more men.

This war has proven once again it will end up as a stalemate.
Stalemate? You call losing most of the East and South to Russia a stalemate? Come on man...... this will be a Phyrric Russian victory; albeit a significant one as it will give Russia nearly complete control over the black sea aside from massive land areas.
 
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Stalemate? You call losing most of the East and West to Russia a stalemate? Come on man...... this will be a Phyrric Russian victory; albeit a significant one as it will give Russia nearly complete control over the black sea aside from massive land areas.
Odessa is in the hands of Ukrainians, I believe that Russia was going to take some parts of Ukraine is given. That's something expected. Where it goes from here are just speculations but what is always the most important factor like anything in life is being optimistic and use own potentials to the maximum. Ukrainians doing just that. I don't want to look calculative towards Ukrainians here as they are dying not me but whatever the final outcome is , we definitely know that Russia will be trashed in many ways for a long time. I think that some European countries like Germany for example waiting in the wings to " help " the Russians in such case. So for time being things are going just fine, no need for panic
 

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Russian higher-ups may not want to stop but that's not up to them. It's up to the soldiers, some of whom are already starting to refuse to fight. Not to mention that Russia does not have infinite supplies and manpower to throw at Ukraine let alone a steel plant in ONE GODDAMN CITY.
True, some Russian soldiers are refusing to fight; but guess what, according to recent reports, most of those who died from the Russian side are mostly turkic origin, serbian origin, and above all speratists from DNR and LNR! Russia is now transferring the mercenaries in Libya and Syria to fight in Ukraine which are around 20,000. This means that Russia replinshed its troops and are ready to fight again while a war of attrition is never in Ukraine's favour as Russia can still produce its 1960s weapons in bulk
What is that tweet supposed to prove? Oh gosh, Kadyrovites are in Kherson. So what?
Kadyrovites were normally sent to Mariupol after the initial Russian batch got rap*d by Azov battalion. At first, Putin thought he would win with ease and thus transferred Russians to the front line in Mariupol to gain the fame. After the big slap on the face that Putin got, he started to transfer the Muslim Chechens as the front line troops while the Russians are just using artillery and jets within the safe zone to avoid casualities. The fact that such Kadyrovites canoon fodder are now in Kherson proves that they arent needed in Mariupol anymore and this means more fighting force within the Russian forces for more territorial gains in the South and East
Russia makes some gains and loses others. Ukraine has already successfully counter-attacked and dislodged them from previously captured regions so even claiming that they are making any progress is overly generous.
This is what I have been talking about. While defending cities, Ukraine has the advantage since the defender (in most war scenarios) is the most protected compared to the attacker. However, when Ukraine loses a city to Russia like in Izyum or Kherson it becomes near impossible for Ukraine to win them back as the role of the attacker and defender along with their pros and cons are switched. I said it before that whether Ukraine can switch from a defending mentality to an attacking one is a real test and until now, no results worth mentioning
What exactly did Erdogan lose from this war? Russian "support"? Not really. If anything this war has raised Turkey's importance in Russia because Russia is getting screwed by virtually everyone else in Europe so whoever didn't completely cut them loose is now being clung on like a shipwrecked sailor to a life raft.
Who cares about Russian support? In fact this war just proved how important Turkey and Erdogan is important yet dangerous at the same time. Rn, Putin needs Erdogan more than anything else! However, This war did screw Erdo in lots of cases especially ECONOMICALLY! Thx to this rotten war, gas prices are soaring, Ukrainian tourists for the next 5 years at least may not come in huge numbers and obviously turkish export market in Ukraine took a hit. This is without a doubt a blow to Erdogan. However, he did gain lots of things such as Free Promo for Turkey's defence products, Ukranian aviation engineers are relocating in Turkey' Antalya, and US businesses are reshifting from Russia to Turkey etc which is good and is proven by the fact that Turkey's unemployment rate dropped to a low of 10.7% and may drop even more
No offense Lool but you seem to be going weirdly out of your way to defend Russia here and keep talking about how "doomed" Ukraine is. That may be so but you aren't making very convincing arguments for it.
Iam not supporting Russia; In fact, Iam praying that those assholes lose this war tbh. I hate Putin's Modus Operandi in the region (as I explained in a previous post). However, rn, I just cant seem to see how Zelensky is planning on retaking nearly 20-35% of his lands when he is in a defensive position and Russia is still racking in those gains albeit with a lot of sacrifices and refilling its ranks with suicidal Chechen fighters and rapers like DNR and LNR separatists; ofcourse add Russian troops as well
I hope for Ukraine to win but the West (especially Germany) is gradually becoming unreliable and none of the countries supporting Ukraine wanna go all in as they may risk losing sensitive technologies to Russia
That is why a war of attrition is never in Ukraine's favour


What is even worse is that the Russian public, thx to state propaganda, seems to believe that this is some sort of holy war and if the ppl suffered for a while then it is a fair price to pay

Just look at this bullshit👇 Those Russians aee teuly deprived of brain power, I swear


However, while Russians are being brainwashed; Ukrainians are either getting fed up with the war or are being bought up by Russia👇

 
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Russian assault units are leaving Mariupol, multiple sources report this. A small part of the Russian units remains to block the Azovstal plant, the rest are transferred to other sectors of the Ukrainian front to develop an offensive there. Where the troops are going is unknown, perhaps Kharkov, Nikolaev or Kherson.

 

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Its racial and religious reasons why they oppose Turks

We are nothing more than Muslim Asian Barbarians to them.

In other words if you are not White, European, Western or Christian you are nothing more than a inferior subhuman to them.

Thats why Turks should work on the Turkic World and the Islamic world.

Us Turks being the Warriors of Islam helps our soft power image already.

Everybody looks up to us. Look at the average Somali he wants his country to be like Turkiye.

Turkic countries all want to be like Turkiye.

All the Muslims minus the (Arabs, Iranians and Kurds) and Turkic peoples look at Turkiye.

Thats a great thing to be honest.

If you think the Islamic world is a substitute for the Western world you are gravely mistaken.

Most of these people in Somalia + Pakistan erroneously think Ataturk is a kuffar & that Turks are too Europeanized

A gravitation to the Turkic world + Balkan countries makes more sense
 

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Russian assault units are leaving Mariupol, multiple sources report this. A small part of the Russian units remains to block the Azovstal plant, the rest are transferred to other sectors of the Ukrainian front to develop an offensive there. Where the troops are going is unknown, perhaps Kharkov, Nikolaev or Kherson.


These pictures are like the Nazis going through Poland in 1939

But they ended up reuing it big time when the Western World hit back a few years later

Just wait & you will rue it too
 
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