Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Vergennes]

Russian airborne troops command post struck by Ukrainian artillery

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521444398671740928

 

[Ghost soldier]

@500 can you confirm this ?

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-705763

 

[UkroTurk]

Yet Land Lease not been signed, The Gifts from Biden have already arrived.

Over the past fday in Rzeshva (Poland), 15 Transport Aircraft of USA Landed, 11 More are expected today.

 

[Anastasius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1520704325961539586

Not sure what Buryats, Dagestanis, Tatars, etc, are waiting for. The Russians are using them as expendable cannon fodder and no uprisings. Also class act by the Ukrainians going maximum cringe with the racism in the comments.

 

[TR_123456]

What I notice about this thread is that everything Russian and every Russian User is defamed and censored as a propagandist - insulted and so on... I didn't even experience such one-sided reporting during the Karabakh war. Even there, both sides were illuminated as far as possible and the Armenian side was also shown. As far as I remember, our french friend, among others, was not censored or insulted for posting almost exclusively the "305" account (a lot of propaganda). That is a great pity and also bitter for the neutrality of this forum. I am neither a friend of the Russians nor of the Ukrainians - accordingly, I would like a neutral forum that illuminates both sides. But that's just my own opinion.

Where did you see that?
Show an example?
The forum doesnt take sides,members do.

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1520704325961539586

Not sure what Buryats, Dagestanis, Tatars, etc, are waiting for. The Russians are using them as expendable cannon fodder and no uprisings. Also class act by the Ukrainians going maximum cringe with the racism in the comments.

Zelensky called us Turks as Cockroaches while wearing the Fez.

Ukrainians and Russians have always been racist.

Humans are all racist while Eastern Europeans are big time racists.

Turks who have blonde and white skin or have meditreaean olive skin wont be targeted.

If you are Turk who has brown or have any form of dark skin they would murder you. Asian features will most likely get you profiled as a Chinese.

 

[Madokafc]

Ghanimah from Zaphorizia front , a T72 and BMP 3

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521471580861341697

 

[Madokafc]

This guy had a field day today with all of the ghanimah including a Russian army BMP 2 IFV

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521471813594849283

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521472529671598080

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521471118888034304

 

[Madokafc]

Apparently this guy just finished the fighting today, those Russian can't handle some veteran volunteer Forces from US and Britain, they talking big about to face those two squarely in open war. Just big mouth

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521469804170862593

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521271646274961408

"Green light from Israel for Baltic states sending their Israeli made weappn to Ukraine."
Is it confirmed?

 

[GoatsMilk]

I think the problem with the Russian point of view that its been so outlandish and in nearly all cases extreme propaganda, that sane minds have had enough of it. I still remember the first day when the Russians were claiming all 200 TB2's of Ukraine were destroyed on the ground. And of all the propaganda that was some of the least outlandish things they have said.

To make matters worse the Russian side doesn't even except one fault of their own, they make no room for the other side of the argument at all. They ignore every crime their state has committed against others. They never say i agree with this, but Putin was wrong to that. Its complete acceptance of whatever Russia does not matter how abhorrent and cruel.

Its like the boy that cried wolf too often, after a while no cares any more even if there is a wolf. I got to that point a long time ago watching their behaviour in syria, i got no time for their opinions anymore.

 

[Ryder]

I think the problem with the Russian point of view that its been so outlandish and in nearly all cases extreme propaganda, that sane minds have had enough of it. I still remember the first day when the Russians were claiming all 200 TB2's of Ukraine were destroyed on the ground. And of all the propaganda that was some of the least outlandish things they have said.

To make matters worse the Russian side doesn't even except one fault of their own, they make no room for the other side of the argument at all. They ignore every crime their state has committed against others. They never say i agree with this, but Putin was wrong to that. Its complete acceptance of whatever Russia does not matter how abhorrent and cruel.

Its like the boy that cried wolf too often, after a while no cares any more even if there is a wolf. I got to that point a long time ago watching their behaviour in syria, i got no time for their opinions anymore.

Russians laughed off Turkish drones and the Turkish defence industry.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Kardes... I won't read all the pages to 600 again... but you should keep an eye on some kind of "canceling culture" in this forum - just saying... this thread - not the forum - doesn't inform me, if I'm absent for some days, but is more like a groupie cheering thread for some "pro-Turkish saviors" (who are complaining about turkey trying to secure its tourism sector) - simple as that... other than in the Karabakh war thread - where we had discussions about certain incidents - this thread became something like searching for #slawaukraina at Twitter - if you get my point... none of y'all - except our 2 Russian square heads - posting or researching anything related to the Russian point of view - something we need for an objective point of view... I hope it is still okay, to express my concerns... I don't wish a second PDF for us.. much love

What do you recommend? Should we hire Russian members for money and have them share how the Russians feel about this war in this topic? It is the members who keep the topics alive. Members also take an attitude according to their own worldviews and share accordingly. What does this have to do with the forum? As far as I see you have't had much comment for 600 pages but suddenly appear and question the fairness of the forum and talk about taking a side and compare us with worst examples like PDF.
In the Karabakh war, members from both fronts shared actively and the forum treated all these members within the rules. Same for Israil-Palestine conflicts. Didn't the forum management give Russian members free speech right while the Russian members were trying to show themselves on this topic? If this is not the case, what is the problem ?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Kashmir itself is a complex and complicated problem.

I know why Turkiye supports Pakistan because Pakistan supports us.

But I agree taking a side just makes matters even more complex especially when we dont know the problem in Kashmir as much. You 3 countries and various groups and factions.

If we can keep relations with both Ukraine and Russia we should do the same with India and Pakistan.

Our foreign policy should never be taken hostage or given entitlements.

Yes, i'm not saying that Turkey can resolve that problem or even really make much a difference to settle it, but Turkey should have positioned herself that when both Pakistan and India looked at Turkey, that this was a country trying to help.

Naturally we have close relations with Pakistan and there is nothing wrong with being closer to one nation then the other, but the way erdogan kept provoking that situation and making it more tense and hostile was in my mind so foolish.

I still to this day don't understand what erdogan hoped to achieve other then to bolster support from his own islamist voter base. Because i dont think Turkey gained from it and i don't think it helped Pakistan either. It also helped to entrench the perspective within India that Muslims are the enemy irrespective of whether Pakistani or Turkish.

 

[UkroTurk]

A Real Hero!

The kidnapped ex-mayor of Kherson, Vladimir Nikolaenko, ruined the interview for the Russian propaganda media.

“Shukhevych fought for Ukraine. He did not fight on the side of Nazi Germany. The country gave him the title of a hero, so for her he is a hero, ”said Nikolaenko.

Well done, real man. Did not break even under the pressure of the Russian!

Труха⚡️Україна

Похищенный экс-мер Херсона Владимир Николаенко испоганил все постановочное интервью российскому пропагандонскому СМИ. «Шухевич воевал за Украину. Он не воевал на стороне нацистской Германии. Страна дала ему звание героя, так что для нее он – герой», – заявил Николаенко. Молодец, настоящий...

t.me

İ doubt if i could speak out under occupation.
I wish he would not be killed for it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Russians laughed off Turkish drones and the Turkish defence industry.

Honestly the way things are going i suspect within 20 years we will eclipse Russia in all defence related matters.

 

[what]

Just for clarification, there is no form of censorship here and the Russian members (even if some of them take it to far) are more than welcome to share their posts.

Censorship only applies to people from both sides that cannot behave. I'm talking about insults, racism, name calling.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

What I recommend is quite simple Aga -
next time a Russian dares to post his propaganda, same as all our HAIL-Ukrainian friends do - keep an eye on members silencing them by name-calling... like hyenas eating them alive... if this board is still fair, you as the mods, have to act on every name-calling the same way to create a pleasant atmosphere for everyone...
you don't have to hire any Russians. The reason why I am not as active as some time ago: I don't have much time, but enough time to read... just not the time to participate... there was one thing bringing me to this point to criticize this thread - I said in a post before it's not about the forum, but more about this thread - the few Russians posting almost anything about Ukrainian losses, etc. got lynched instantly and that is not okay.... the reason I compared THIS THREAD to PDF? : The moment some of us said anything about or against China e.g., even if we got insulted for that first - our posts got canceled and we were accused of aggression and provocation... these are my concerns, nothing more or less...

Moderators already take action when there is a message that is in violation of the rules or is reported. Other situations are not related to the forum management but to the general attitude of the members. At such a time, if the messages of the Russian members encounter a general reaction from big majority of forum members in this topic, it is not because of the forum administration as well. We cannot decide the severity of the reactions. Mods checks if there is a violation within the rules. If there is an unfair attitude against a group of people or if you think that the Russians are not able to express themselves in this topic, I recommend that you send your advices with the names of the members you think are conducting a lynching campaign, instead of blaming the forum as a general call. In the least, you can report problematic messages this way instead of dragging the topic off its course like that. If that doesn't work, you can write your own recommendations in the sugesstion section. With such examples and generalizations, questioning the fairness of the Forum management or claiming to be taking sides will only harm you in our eyes.

 

[UkroTurk]

What I recommend is quite simple Aga -
next time a Russian dares to post his propaganda, same as all our HAIL-Ukrainian friends do - keep an eye on members silencing them by name-calling... like hyenas eating them alive... if this board is still fair, you as the mods, have to act on every name-calling the same way to create a pleasant atmosphere for everyone...
you don't have to hire any Russians. The reason why I am not as active as some time ago: I don't have much time, but enough time to read... just not the time to participate... there was one thing bringing me to this point to criticize this thread - I said in a post before it's not about the forum, but more about this thread - the few Russians posting almost anything about Ukrainian losses, etc. got lynched instantly and that is not okay.... the reason I compared THIS THREAD to PDF? : The moment some of us said anything about or against China e.g., even if we got insulted for that first - our posts got canceled and we were accused of aggression and provocation... these are my concerns, nothing more or less...

Why don't you just accept the reality that Russians have nothing to say?

We won't stop declaring agression, warcrimes, brutality and how Ukranian Army doing well.

Even armed Russian invaders couldn't opress Ukranian people in the occupied cities, why would on earth people with common sense stop reacting?

They can't stand against us because they are just not on right side.

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Moderators already take action when there is a message that is in violation of the rules or is reported. Other situations are not related to the forum management but to the general attitude of the members. At such a time, if the messages of the Russian members encounter a general reaction from big majority of forum members in this topic, it is not because of the forum administration as well. We cannot decide the severity of the reactions. Mods checks if there is a violation within the rules. If there is an unfair attitude against a group of people or if you think that the Russians are not able to express themselves in this topic, I recommend that you send your advices with the names of the members you think are conducting a lynching campaign, instead of blaming the forum as a general call. In the least, you can report problematic messages this way instead of dragging the topic off its course like that. If that doesn't work, you can write your own recommendations in the sugesstion section. With such cheap examples, questioning the fairness of the Forum management or claiming to be taking sides will only harm you in our eyes.

Alright then.
If you think this behavior is okay - then I don't want to add anything else. It is not my job to create fairness and informativity - it was just something that caught my eye - so that this doesn't become a "dictatorship of opinion" - even without the explicit use of swear words to "break rules".
I will delete my former posts. Have a blessed Bayram.

Why don't you just accept the reality that Russians have nothing to say?

We won't stop declaring agression, warcrimes, brutality and how Ukranian Army doing well.

I don't accept that people "don't have nothing to say" on general-principle.
And I certainly won't allow being muzzled again like back then by accusing me of sympathy of any party, just because I show an awareness of justice.

The fact is: Russians have their opinion
fact is: you have to endure them all if you want to be an open community

period end off.

And just for you: I have no sympathy with Russian AND Ukrainian Nazis, both parties mutilate each other's corps to show off some Nazi Tattoos -
The only sympathy I have in this case is, that our engagement won't backfire on Turkey or Azerbaycan - and that the Tatars stay well ... nothing more or less.
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