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One thing i notice about a lot of Russian fanboys is how they fail to see the bigger picture. Invading Ukraine for Russia was about competing with America, it wasn't about taking a few Km's here and there only to lose it later due to good will gesture. The Russian invasion basically gave much of the entire western world into the hands of America and pretty much turned most of the world against Russia.

This nightmare for Russia is going on one year and it looks like by the end of this year will lose every inch of Ukrainian land at great economic and social cost. Absolute disaster geopolitically speaking for Putin. He totally miscalculated everything.

Today America is much bigger and stronger in the world, while the Russians went the complete opposite direction. All in the space of a year.
 

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You do realize that Russian were running away from mobilization the same way?Some all the way to Balkan countries?
As far as ocupuing Ukraine goes if i were pro Russian I wold be much more worried about Ukrainians "denacifying and demilitarizing" Donbas and Crimea.If the past has shown us anything it's that after every major arms donation Russian army "strategically withdraws" from large areas.
This is the biggest package so...good luck.
That mobilization thing must have ended 4 months ago by now, but why this past week of so many twitter videos of AFU fighting with civilians?

We went from 1 million to going to 1.5 million. This means they have plans for more military actions and one of them is to quell down rebellions in Ukraine or watch Ukraine's borders but I dont think they are worried about rebellions that much because nearly all fighting age males will be killed in this war for example they dont mind transferring a shitload of POWs just for a fewer number of Ukraine's POWs meaning if those POWs get traded again when caught they will be nearly as good as dead because they are only helping return Russian POWs and we know Zelensky wants to hold onto dear life as much as possible. I mean that is pretty fucked up but its the only way to rip off the roots of extreme nationalism before setting a flower to bloom with all the weeds removed in which this process is that they will start fucking like rabbits to increase the population of former Ukraine and start teaching their history to a new generation sont instead of Azovstan we will get another Russia instead and its still better than being more poor than Kosovo prior to the war. So not only will russia have an energy leverage over europe but a full food and grain leverage over western Europe and western europe will have to find alternatives until they will have to bow their heads again to Russia. We have alot more countries wanting to join BRICS and with Russias new oil arctic projects and fuel gas projects they are more than likely start receiving a more powerful economy than before. If US loses control over western europe and the countries that are going to BRICS like Saudi Arabia and the UAE any containment on Russia is as good as dead. So I am 110% certain Poland will jump in this war with all that equipment they have been receiving so thats another reason why Russia is starting to bump up the active duty numbers to 1.5 million and according to the Russians themselves they state they have enough economic levers to pull before entering a war economy and rather if anyone wants to take their word for it, that is up to you guys.

I am feeling sure that Russians will win against just Ukraine because they still have the same old military units in the battlefield like LDR, Chechens, Wagner, marines, but I would be so and so if they were using their reserves in the war because I still see those 4 Xs outside the border of Ukraine with some other units. I might take Ukraine more seriously if they got rid of the Russian old units that were in the operation with Russians replacing them with reserves. but if they start a major offensive with those old units still present there than that doesn't count.

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Just a reminder... Don't let any Russians apologists or propagandists try to gas light you into thinking Russia is not suffering tremendously in their attempts to advance in the East and South.

Make no mistake About it. They're being killed and injured by the thousands and they're losing a lot of armor in the process!

I have a chechen friend and he told me stories about chechens who have to fight there if they want to or not.. he told me about the chaos the fear, the death upon death.. he told me about chechens who called their relatives how the war is.. wich massive shock effect the artillery has on the frontline.. they fear and fear himars.. for them its like if they dare to go out they are immediatly targeted and bombed away.. the death toll is very high
 

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One thing i notice about a lot of Russian fanboys is how they fail to see the bigger picture. Invading Ukraine for Russia was about competing with America, it wasn't about taking a few Km's here and there only to lose it later due to good will gesture. The Russian invasion basically gave much of the entire western world into the hands of America and pretty much turned most of the world against Russia.

This nightmare for Russia is going on one year and it looks like by the end of this year will lose every inch of Ukrainian land at great economic and social cost. Absolute disaster geopolitically speaking for Putin. He totally miscalculated everything.

Today America is much bigger and stronger in the world, while the Russians went the complete opposite direction. All in the space of a year.
Your only concern is the interests of the USA and England. You don't care about humanity.

But you hide this purpose well for secondary reasons. For example, the lie that Russia suddenly attacked Ukraine. However, everyone knows that the USA and Russia were in a struggle in Ukraine.
 

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That mobilization thing must have ended 4 months ago by now, but why this past week of so many twitter videos of AFU fighting with civilians?

We went from 1 million to going to 1.5 million. This means they have plans for more military actions and one of them is to quell down rebellions in Ukraine or watch Ukraine's borders but I dont think they are worried about rebellions that much because nearly all fighting age males will be killed in this war for example they dont mind transferring a shitload of POWs just for a fewer number of Ukraine's POWs meaning if those POWs get traded again when caught they will be nearly as good as dead because they are only helping return Russian POWs and we know Zelensky wants to hold onto dear life as much as possible. I mean that is pretty fucked up but its the only way to rip off the roots of extreme nationalism before setting a flower to bloom with all the weeds removed in which this process is that they will start fucking like rabbits to increase the population of former Ukraine and start teaching their history to a new generation sont instead of Azovstan we will get another Russia instead and its still better than being more poor than Kosovo prior to the war. So not only will russia have an energy leverage over europe but a full food and grain leverage over western Europe and western europe will have to find alternatives until they will have to bow their heads again to Russia. We have alot more countries wanting to join BRICS and with Russias new oil arctic projects and fuel gas projects they are more than likely start receiving a more powerful economy than before. If US loses control over western europe and the countries that are going to BRICS like Saudi Arabia and the UAE any containment on Russia is as good as dead. So I am 110% certain Poland will jump in this war with all that equipment they have been receiving so thats another reason why Russia is starting to bump up the active duty numbers to 1.5 million and according to the Russians themselves they state they have enough economic levers to pull before entering a war economy and rather if anyone wants to take their word for it, that is up to you guys.

I am feeling sure that Russians will win against just Ukraine because they still have the same old military units in the battlefield like LDR, Chechens, Wagner, marines, but I would be so and so if they were using their reserves in the war because I still see those 4 Xs outside the border of Ukraine with some other units. I might take Ukraine more seriously if they got rid of the Russian old units that were in the operation with Russians replacing them with reserves. but if they start a major offensive with those old units still present there than that doesn't count.

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I know you are here to spread Russian propaganda and convince everyone how great the special operation is going despite Russians losing half of the territory they had since March,but please don't tell me you actually believe Russian lies that Ukrainians are losing more people than Russians and the war is almost over because Ukraine has no soldiers,despite them having over half a million people under arms and tens of thousands in training outside Ukraine.
You really believe that Ukraine has no fighting men left?
I mean even drug dealers (in general) are just selling not actually consuming the drugs they sell.
 

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now it's a crime to lie to a lie?!?! However, I wrote the proof with it. quite clear.


Sure, a couple of hundred battalion tactical groups just happened to take a wrong turn in Belarus and suddenly found themselves around Kiev, bet all the generals were super embarrassed by that. Although not inconceivable considering they keep using maps from the 1960's.

Or is it more on the line of "comrades, if we walk backwards into the enemy it is technically not an advance! That will show those americans to misunderestimate us!".
Which of course is also conceivable considering the losses the russian army keeps taking and the speed of their advance. Sorry.. tactical goodwill retreat.
 
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know you are here to spread Russian propaganda and convince everyone how great the special operation is going despite Russians losing half of the territory they had since March,but please don't tell me you actually believe Russian lies that Ukrainians are losing more people than Russians and the war is almost over because Ukraine has no soldiers,despite them having over half a million people under arms and tens of thousands in training outside Ukraine.
You really believe that Ukraine has no fighting men left?
I mean even drug dealers (in general) are just selling not actually consuming the drugs they sell.
I have a track record, for 2 months 300k was involved and they withdrew leaving it to 80k troops. putin states few months ago that 80k was still in the operation zone and anyone that has eyes can see the western map link i have provided earlier that the same amount is used with the same units in the operation zone in which russian and western sources align. not saying Ukrainians have no fighting men left just in the last few weeks we get everyday footage of AFU fighting with civilians. which was not the case a month or even more months ago.
 

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What is Russia’s T-90M Tank and How Does It Stack Up Against NATO’s Top Armor?, by Ilya Tsukanov for SputnikNews. 01.28.2023.

NATO’s proxy war against Russia in Ukraine saw another escalation this week, with the Western alliance promising to send over 150 of the Western alliance’s current-gen tanks – the Leopard 2 and the Abrams. How does Russia’s most advanced third-gen tank, the T-90M Proryv, compare against these heavy weapons? Sputnik investigates.

Although German and US officials have clarified that it will take “months” for their promised armor to arrive in Ukraine, Western media and defense analysts are already salivating at the prospect of these tanks meeting their Russian counterparts on the battlefield for the first time.

"Abrams and Challenger tanks ‘made to beat Russia’: Why muddy Ukraine is ideal warzone,” one outlet gushes. “Abrams, Leopard and Challenger 2 vs. T-72: How Western Tanks Compare to Russia’s Armor,” another title reads, apparently taking their audience for children and comparing the early 1970s-era Soviet-era second generation tank to third-gen NATO armor introduced between a decade and two-and-a-half decades later.

Only a handful of media have actually focused on the capabilities of the T-90 – Russia’s most modern tank, at any length, with some dismissing it as “essentially a late-model T-72 hull and turret” with an upgraded engine. One outlet begrudgingly admits that “some versions of the T-90…are even better than their NATO opposites, with a superior gun and anti-tank missile system,” but assures that superior Ukrainian training will prevail.

Is that really the case?

What is the T-90 Main Battle Tank?

The T-90 is the first series of MBTs (or simply ‘main tanks’ under Russian military nomenclature) to be manufactured almost entirely in the post-Soviet period. The tank was designed in the mid-to-late 1980s, and constituted a deep overhaul of the T-72B, a Soviet tank fielded in vast numbers, featuring improved dynamic protection, a Shtora-series active protection system designed to disrupt the laser designator and rangefinder systems of anti-tank missile systems, a welded turret (in later models), superior sloped alloy and composite armor, better fire control system, communications and navigations equipment, and new engine. Originally called the T-72BU, the tank reportedly received the T-90 name due to Russian President Boris Yeltsin’s desire to proclaim the creation of the “first Russian tank” built after the Soviet period.

Weighing between 46 and 48 tons, the T-90 is 9.6 meters long, 3.78 meters wide and stands 2.22 meters off the ground. Like its predecessors, it is significantly lighter and smaller than NATO tanks of the 1980s and 1990s (which weigh between 62 and 74 tons, and are up to three meters tall, in the Leopard 2’s case).

The T-90 features a 2A46 125 mm/L48 smoothbore cannon (used on a broad range of Russian, Ukrainian, and Chinese tanks), and either a 12.7 mm or 7.62 mm machine gun as secondary armament. The gun and its variations compare favorably to the Rh-120 L/44 120 mm smoothbore fitted aboard the Leopard 2, and can fire rounds up to 4,000 meters – 500 m further than the German gun.

The T-90’s smaller size and low profile compared to Western tanks, whose design philosophy dates back all the way to the post-WWII era, has a number of reasons, including:

- Improved mobility, including through tight spaces such as woods and mountainous areas.
- Perceived superior ability to entrench itself.
- Smaller, simpler overall design, which means more tanks can be built for fewer resources.
- More compact profile means longer operational range (up to 550 km without optional rear fuel drums – compared to the Abrams' 425 km), and better bridge and river crossing capabilities.
- Interchangeability of some components should mean superior logistics and repair capabilities (a major headache for NATO today is juggling the multitude of distinct and incompatible weapons sent to Ukraine, with these problems expected to multiply when Western tanks arrive).

What is the T-90M?

The T-90M Proryv (literally "Breakthrough") is the latest version of the T-90 series. The tank is a thorough upgrade of the base T-90, and includes a new turret module with multi-layer armor, improved crew protection thanks to the placement of its ammunition rack outside the crew compartment, and an improved main gun – 125 mm 2A82 – the same gun fitted on prospective next-gen tanks such as the T-14 Armata.

The T-90M features an automated Kalina fire control system, a remotely controlled 12.7mm Kord machine gun, a Relict dynamic defense system, and fifth-gen digital communication system. Firsts in Russian tank design include air conditioning and steering and transmission with improved ease of use for the tank driver. T-90Ms also feature the Arena-M, an advanced active protection system for anti-tank and anti-missile defense.

Deliveries of the tank to the Russian military began in 2020.

How Many T-90s Does Russia Have?

As many as 1,000 T-90s of various modifications have been produced between 1992 and today. Russia had about 350 T-90As and up to 100 T-90Ms in service in 2022, with 200 more T-90s in storage. The military announced plans in 2018 to upgrade all of its T-90s to T-90Ms by 2025.

How Many T-90s Do Other Countries Have?

India, not Russia, is actually the biggest operator of T-90 series tanks – with its inventory consisting of a whopping 1,100 T-90S "Bhishma" MBTs, many produced under license by Indian manufacturers. Other users include Algeria, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uganda, and Vietnam.

How Has the T-90 Fared in Combat?

In its 30+ year lifespan, the T-90’s variants have racked up operational experience in wide range of conditions, starting, on an experimental basis, in Chechnya in 1995, where a small number of T-90s proved “practically invulnerable” to anti-tank weapons thanks to its onboard active protection system.

Between 30 and 40 T-90s of various modifications were deployed to Syria in 2015, and used by Syrian tankers in fierce battles against Western, Gulf, and Turkish-backed Islamist militants. The tanks’ ATGM protection proved its effectiveness repeatedly against the TOW anti-tank missiles flooded into the country by the CIA. Between three and six T-90s were damaged beyond repair or destroyed in the war, with one tank falling to the terrorists. Others suffered damage but were repaired to fight another day. T-90s in Syria compared favorably to the Leopard 2, which suffered up to a dozen losses during Turkey’s operations in the country’s north from 2016 onward.

T-90S model tanks were also used by Azerbaijani forces during the 2020 Karabakh War, with between one and four lost to Armenian militias in the disputed territory.
Russian forces have used T-90s extensively in the conflict in Ukraine. The information warfare that has accompanied the conflict has blanketed the battlefield with a thick fog of war in which real losses are difficult to estimate, with Western observers claiming that two dozen or even more have been lost and a few even captured by Ukraine.

However, as a Ukrainian officer recently admitted, Ukraine’s tanks, mostly consisting of old stocks of Soviet-era T-62 and T-72s, are no match for the T-90s. “This is where the quality of what we have is important. If you come across a T-90, you need three of ours to deal with it – or very good luck,” the commander candidly told British media last week.

How Does the T-90 Match Up Against Western MBTs Promised Kiev?

Triumphant articles and statements have been made on both sides about how one or the other’s tanks will make short work of their opponents. However, as previously noted, the outcome of any real-world tank-on-tank encounter will depend on tank crew skill, the competency of commanders, the availability of tactical and strategic battlefield intelligence, artillery, air, and ATGM-wielding infantry support, and the efficiency of rear-area refueling, refit, and repair.

Tanks’ main purpose, in optimal conditions, is to perform rapid, large-scale armored breakthroughs across a wide front. As recently pointed out to Sputnik by Russian military expert Alexei Leonkov, the number of NATO tanks being sent to Ukraine to take on Russian armor, including the T-90, “is absolutely not enough to carry out any kind of tactical or operational-practical operation,” with many “more tanks…required for that.”

Furthermore, as Sputnik contributor Scott Ritter has explained, effective tank operations require them to be used as part of a combined arms team with infantry support and “copious amounts of supporting arms.” Without this backup, any tank “is simply an expensive mobile coffin,” according to Ritter
 

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No videos just photos of random people? must be a slow day, at least you get footage and people speaking Ukrainian on my posts
 

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