Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Ecderha]

“We don’t plan to stop,” Zelenskiy said in a statement on Telegram. “Every criminal who has the audacity to harm Ukraine, especially under war conditions, must understand clearly that we will put him in handcuffs.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621416256061464576

 

[blackjack]

Open source investigations, with names, dates, details, one by one - listed much more than 130k dead Ukrainian soldiers. Official Ukrainian documents put a number of MIA above 32k. The number of POWs was declared at +/- 20k level. Brits officially claimed 200k KIA back in Autumn of 2022. Official Ukro documents were claiming 152k+ end of 2022. Stratfor is stating 300k+, Latest leakage of the Ukro official reports are 252k. I mean shit these numbers make sense if Ukraine has shortage for bodies and resorts to interrogating civilians at gunpoint to mobilize. If Oryx did state the truth with their statistics than how come Ukraine's bigger force isn't pushing back some convicts? Pro-Ukraine users at other forums like India defense net already gave up because no one there is mentally handicapped enough to take Oryx as source but use it just to troll pro-Russian users.

 

[Mailman]

Open source investigations, with names, dates, details, one by one - listed much more than 130k dead Ukrainian soldiers. Official Ukrainian documents put a number of MIA above 32k. The number of POWs was declared at +/- 20k level. Brits officially claimed 200k KIA back in Autumn of 2022. Official Ukro documents were claiming 152k+ end of 2022. Stratfor is stating 300k+, Latest leakage of the Ukro official reports are 252k. I mean shit these numbers make sense if Ukraine has shortage for bodies and resorts to interrogating civilians at gunpoint to mobilize. If Oryx did state the truth with their statistics than how come Ukraine's bigger force isn't pushing back some convicts? Pro-Ukraine users at other forums like India defense net already gave up because no one there is mentally handicapped enough to take Oryx as source but use it just to troll pro-Russian users.

Ah, it feels like beating the child. If everything goes "po planu", why on earthRussia has mobilised 300 000 reservist and is going to make another partial mobilisation soon? Why we see today 50 + year old tanks on the battlefield and gradually becoming older? Why Kiev is stiil not taken, Zelensky has not left the

 

[blackjack]

Ah, it feels like beating the child. If everything goes "po planu", why on earthRussia has mobilised 300 000 reservist and is going to make another partial mobilisation soon? Why we see today 50 + year old tanks on the battlefield and gradually becoming older? Why Kiev is stiil not taken, Zelensky has not left the

Well there is no other mobilization mentioned by Russians themselves unless you have some head issues to think the Russian military gives their plans to Ukrainians making these claims? 300k are mobilized but in use yet for any offensive other than the units i currently see in the operation zone.

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621389386397925376

 

[crycoban]

Ah, it feels like beating the child. If everything goes "po planu", why on earthRussia has mobilised 300 000 reservist and is going to make another partial mobilisation soon? Why we see today 50 + year old tanks on the battlefield and gradually becoming older? Why Kiev is stiil not taken, Zelensky has not left the

nothing wrong with 50 year old tanks, the Ukrainians are using it and the F-16s they were begging for are also of around the same age

 

[Gary]

nothing wrong with 50 year old tanks, the Ukrainians are using it and the F-16s they were begging for are also of around the same age

Let me correct that for you. The F-16 design is 50 years old, the one's that's going to be transferred is less than that and there's like a huge difference between blocks.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621389386397925376

dang that T-80 is still moving.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621623581091237891

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621605819056799748

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621579696893722628

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621586102732595202

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621642126785392640

 

[Relic]

New USA military aid package for Ukraine has been announced. The package has been split between $425 million worth of immediate Presidential Drawdown authority and $1.75 billion worth of USAI funding, for procurement from U.S. industry.

Presidential Drawdown ($425 Million)
- Undisclosed additional GMLRS for HIMARS.
- Undisclosed additional 155mm artillery rounds.
- Undisclosed additional 120mm mortar rounds.
- 190x heavy machine guns with thermal sights.
- 181x Maxxpro MRAPs.
- 250x Javelin anti-armor weapons.
- 2000x anti-armor rockets (M72 LAW and AT4).
- Claymores.
- Demolition equipment.
- Spare parts and field equipment.

USAI ($1.75 Billion)
- 2x Hawk air defense systems.
- Undisclosed quantity of Air Defense Guns (with ammunition).
- Equipment to integrate Western and Ukrainian air defense systems, missiles and radars.
- Air defense generators.
- Unmanned arial systems.
- 4x Air defense radars.
- 20x counter mortar radars.
- Spare parts for counter artillery radars.
- GLSDB precision guided bombs (150km range).
- Secure communications equipment.
- Medical equipment.
- Funding for training, sustainment and maintenance.

While not sexy, packages like these are very important, because they're what supply the day-to-day war effort and keep it difficult for the Russians to advance, while Ukraine trains in the use of Western armor, in Europe. Expect the next package a couple weeks from now, around the 1 year mark of the invasion. I expect it to be a rather large package to celebrate one year of Ukraine successfully defending their homeland. Another package worth north of $3 Billion (most of which comes from presidential drawdown) is in order.

 

[Azeri441]

New USA military aid package for Ukraine has been announced. The package has been split between $425 million worth of immediate Presidential Drawdown authority and $1.75 billion worth of USAI funding, for procurement from U.S. industry.

Presidential Drawdown ($425 Million)
- Undisclosed additional GMLRS for HIMARS.
- Undisclosed additional 155mm artillery rounds.
- Undisclosed additional 120mm mortar rounds.
- 190x heavy machine guns with thermal sights.
- 181x Maxxpro MRAPs.
- 250x Javelin anti-armor weapons.
- 2000x anti-armor rockets (M72 LAW and AT4).
- Claymores.
- Demolition equipment.
- Spare parts and field equipment.

USAI ($1.75 Billion)
- 2x Hawk air defense systems.
- Undisclosed quantity of Air Defense Guns (with ammunition).
- Equipment to integrate Western and Ukrainian air defense systems, missiles and radars.
- Air defense generators.
- Unmanned arial systems.
- 4x Air defense radars.
- 20x counter mortar radars.
- Spare parts for counter artillery radars.
- GLSDB precision guided bombs (150km range).
- Secure communications equipment.
- Medical equipment.
- Funding for training, sustainment and maintenance.

While not sexy, packages like these are very important, because they're what supply the day-to-day war effort and keep it difficult for the Russians to advance, while Ukraine trains in the use of Western armor, in Europe. Expect the next package a couple weeks from now, around the 1 year mark of the invasion. I expect it to be a rather large package to celebrate

John Kirby mentioned another package will be announced in about a week or 2, expect it to be more Bradleys, Strykers and Paladins, not sure if they will include more Abrams already

 

[500]

For some reason you dont want to talk about how many Russians are involved in the special operation zone or how Wagner is kicking the shit out of AFU in comparison to their other units being barely involved.

I want to see how brainwashed you are 1st depending how you answer this question. Do you believe the ghost of kyiv and that a ukrainian babushka shotdown a russian aircraft with a jar of pickles? I believe these are the same journalists that write the Oryx.

Oryx is more of a joke than it is anything factual, I mean come on dude I dont even think you can conviince special ed users but a better chance with users that are born with an extra chromosome here. Why do Ukrainian troops say they lose 5 for every 1 Russian how come the AFU is getting pushed back by a smaller force? Why is AFU at gun point trying to assimilate everyone else to get mobilized I mean come on Ukraine's casualties are so far less than Russia, right? Based on the so-called losses, Russians would have been using reserves not ukrainians getting their shit pushed in by a bunch of convicts in different directions which ukraine claim 75% have been wiped out lol. Ukraine statistics are a joke especially when they say they have intercepted more missiles before than what Russia actually launched. Tell me how come the AFU which has more troops than Wagner is getting their shit pushed in by Wagner?

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Do you want to know what size force Wagner is and what size force the AFU units that are being pushed back?

Again poor little Russia with 2 million armed forces is attacking huge Ukraine.

Wagners are only first line cannon fodder. Russia is trying to capture Bakhmut since June 2022. Despite total air, armor and artillery superiority Russians advance at rate 100 m a day. Russia is using WW1 warfare in third decade of 21th century. That's beyond embarrassing.

Russia before the war: we are super power, our army is best in the world! Our paratroopers and armor will take Berlin and Warsaw in 1 day!

Russia now: we mobilized 320 K soldiers, 50K prisoners and in 10 months we will take tiny town of Bakhmut (after totally leveling it to the ground).

 

[Ryder]

Americans told the Ukrainians to surrender 20% of their land the Ukrainians said fck off.

If these reports are true basically confirms the theory how some countries were willing to sacrifice Ukraine on the altar until they realised the Ukrainians stubborn resistance and fight back made them change their stance.

Basically Georgia of 2008.

 

[Kathirz]

August 28th

February 04:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621838864284254214

Autotranslation:

Do you remember the Russian bastard Igor Mangushev, who spoke with a skull in his hand, said that it belonged to one of our soldiers, and also called for genocide against Ukrainians? So, someone in the occupied territory, in the city of Kadiivka, shot Mangusheva in the skull.

 

[Relic]

John Kirby mentioned another package will be announced in about a week or 2, expect it to be more Bradleys, Strykers and Paladins, not sure if they will include more Abrams already

Of course! We're coming up on the one year anniversary of the invasion. The Americans are going to have a really nice package for the Ukrainians to celebrate. That's why this package was largely USAI and and only less than $500 million worth if drawdown authority. The next package will be more heavy / mechanized armor and artillery. I'll be surprised if it's not another $2.5, $3.0 bill worth.

 

[blackjack]

Again poor little Russia with 2 million armed forces is attacking huge Ukraine.

Wagners are only first line cannon fodder. Russia is trying to capture Bakhmut since June 2022. Despite total air, armor and artillery superiority Russians advance at rate 100 m a day. Russia is using WW1 warfare in third decade of 21th century. That's beyond embarrassing.

Russia before the war: we are super power, our army is best in the world! Our paratroopers and armor will take Berlin and Warsaw in 1 day!

Russia now: we mobilized 320 K soldiers, 50K prisoners and in 10 months we will take tiny town of Bakhmut (after totally leveling it to the ground).

The Russians are not like the Israelis fighting some rock throwers in Palestine next to their border. I will repeat it 100 times more until it gets through a thick skull, 80k are in the operation, Wagner is pushing back the AFU that has more troops, why is that happening?

Reason Bakhmut is taking awhile is because Ukraine is throwing everything it has to take back the city, why do you think there are videos everyday of AFU fighting with ukrainian civilians to mobilize? Lets not ignore how fast Soledar got taken along with other cities that will face encirclements.

Here is the reality of how much Russians are in Ukraine to being outside of Ukraine.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621697835736465409

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621771937100845056

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621772066608353280

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621773010565795841

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621773680668704769

@500

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621774763914936320

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621775301192683520

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621775722451795969

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621776053126447104

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621777489692352512

 

[500]

The Russians are not like the Israelis fighting some rock throwers in Palestine next to their border.

Unlike Russia which was always fighting using huge numerical advantage, Israel fought against much larger enemies. For example in 1973 war Israel with 1700 tanks, 470 jets and 375 K troops was attacked by combined force of over 4000 tanks, 600 jets and 800 K troops.

I will repeat it 100 times more until it gets through a thick skull, 80k are in the operation, Wagner is pushing back the AFU that has more troops, why is that happening?

I repeat once again: so called Wagner are just first line cannon fodder and nothing else.

Russia has advantage in everything: number of troops, tanks, jets, artillery.

Reason Bakhmut is taking awhile is because Ukraine is throwing everything it has to take back the city,

Reason is that Russian army is lame and uses WW1 style warfare. German tank division from WW2 would take Bakhmut in 1 day.

why do you think there are videos everyday of AFU fighting with ukrainian civilians to mobilize? Lets not ignore how fast Soledar got taken along with other cities that will face encirclements.

Here is the reality of how much Russians are in Ukraine to being outside of Ukraine.

Douglas Macgregor is Russian propagandist and clown.

In the beginning of the war on 27 February 2022 he said that Russia will win in 24 hours:

"What is happening now is the battle in Eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off, you have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 to 40,000 of them, and if they don't surrender in next 24 hours, I suspect the Russians will ultimately annihilate them."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/02/27/macgregor_us_should_stop_shipping_weapons_and_stop_encouraging_ukrainians_to_die_in_a_hopeless_endeavor.html

One week later on 6 March 2022 he said that Russia will win in 10 days:

"The first five days, Russian forces I think, frankly, were too gentle. They’ve now corrected that. So I would say another 10 days, this should be completely over."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/02/27/macgregor_us_should_stop_shipping_weapons_and_stop_encouraging_ukrainians_to_die_in_a_hopeless_endeavor.html

On 17 March 2022 he declared that Russia has already won:

“The war is really over for the Ukrainians,” Macgregor continued. “They have been grounded to bits.

Douglas Macgregor Declares Russian Victory: 'The War Is Really Over for the Ukrainians. They Have Been Grounded to Bits'

Ret. United States Army Col. Douglas Macgregor declared Ukraine has lost the war with Russia and that the country has been "grounded to bits."

www.mediaite.com

Then on 7 July he declared that Russia almost won:

"The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odessa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over."

Putin apologist Doug MacGregor to Charlie Kirk: “The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odessa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over”

www.mediamatters.org

Then on 12 September he claimed that Ukrainian army is nearing defeat:

Tucker Carlson guest claims Ukraine near defeat – despite successes against Russia

Country’s armed forces have pushed Russian troops out of an area in the northeast of the country around Kharkiv

www.independent.co.uk

Yet Russian propaganda keep quoting this clown again and again.

 

[Mailman]

nothing wrong with 50 year old tanks, the Ukrainians are using it and the F-16s they were begging for are also of around the same age

Point being, Russia demodernizing its army, Ukrainians modernising.Two different vectors of movement, hereby Ukraine still gets one generation older weaponry in relatively small amoiunts and still doing pretty well. So this vector has great room for advancing- if Western countries get scared enough. So the technological superiority of Western military equipment is significant and in hands of motivated Ukrainian soldiers it is twice as effective.

Russia on the contrary rolls progressingly older equipment into battlefields- which has it's effect surely. Thing is, to compensate increasing disadvantage, Russia has to use the most cheapest resource- humans. Sparing lives have never been concern of Russian generals and even for soldiers, because Russian empire enlargement has allways been accompanied with enormous numbers of lost soldiers. Honestly, I do not see reason why it has to be different this time.

Pushing Wagner criminals into meatmincer under Butcha is a nasty trick from Russian side. They get rid of inmates they need to feed and clothe othervize. Ukrainians do loose their best mens, Russia is generating quite some advantage of using criminals as cannon fodder. They hardly ever get armoured support, in case these are destroyed, criminals still advanatge toward enemy because othervise they will be killed by their owns- Wagner officers of Chechens. Their only task is to get killed quickly and by doing this serve some tactical purpose.

Let's see. West has many ways to escalate the situation, Putin only one or two. Kreml has no way turning back, because crimes committed does not allow to. Yes, Russia is still a big country with vast resources, situation is not so despareate as some of us wants to picture it, but Russia has allwasy been good in pretending. I do not think there is much reserves available and breakdown comes usually unexpectedly. Avos.