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It doesn't refute, but it clears some misdirected information. You see, the USAF isn't that decisive factor either during the Vietnam war, even though they have the undisputed quality and quantity. It was USAF lessons in the Vietnam air campaign that transform the USAF into the monster we saw in 1991.

The Russian VKS is in their own phase of Vietnam war that USAF once experienced, it will be naive to think that they wouldn't improve substantially as the war goes by, and because they will improve eventually, there is no reason not to invest in more and newer airframes.
The USAF doesn't stop developing and producing F-4 Phantoms just because the F-4s are getting blown by inferior MiG-17 in Vietnam.
So what your saying is that a lesson learned by the United States 45 years ago, is just being learned by Russia now? You're confirming that the VKS is that far behind their American counterparts? That's horrible for Russia's hopes of being a true geopolitical rival to NATO in any conventional sense.

Furthermore, I've never suggested that Russia stop producing air frames. In fact, if anything, they need to get their pilots much more air time flying them, so that they know what they're doing. I'm simply commenting on the fact that since Ukraine started receiving even the smallest amount of air defense (and they haven't received all that much in reality) Russia has been absolutely terrified of flying any of their advanced aircraft anywhere near contested Ukrainian airspace.
 

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List of armored vehicles that have been donated to / purchased for Ukraine in recent weeks. I try to post one of these every month as a reminder of the recent donations to Ukraine. I don't include all weaponry, but I chronicle vehicles donated and "special" weapons.

Main Battle Tanks
4 Leopard 2A4 🇪🇸
25 Leopard 1A5 Germany 🇩🇪

Infantry Fighting Vehicles
62 Bradley M2 ODS 🇺🇸
40 Leopard 1A3 🇩🇪

Armored Personnel Carriers
89 Stryker 🇺🇸
28 M113 🇦🇺
30 Bushmaster MRAP 🇦🇺
100 BTR60 🇧🇬
M113 🇧🇪🇳🇱🇱🇺
40 FV103 Spartan 🇬🇧
10 M113 Spain 🇪🇸

Artillery
Firtina 1 155mm howitzers 🇹🇷
20 M109L 155mm howitzers 🇮🇹
16 Zuzana 2 155mm howitzers 🇸🇰
31 M777 155mm howitzers 🇺🇸

Other Vehicles
14 Special operations vehicles 🇦🇺
28 Medium trucks 🇦🇺
14 Hauling trailers 🇦🇺
142 Tactical towing vehicles 🇺🇸
10 Tactical hauling vehicles 🇺🇸
150 Fuel trucks 🇺🇸
50 Tactical recovery vehicles 🇺🇸
6 8x8 transporters 🇩🇪
3 Semi trailers 🇩🇪
12 hauling trailers 🇩🇪
1 Bridge laying tank 🇩🇪
1 Dachs engineering vehicle 🇩🇪
5 Bergepanzer 2 ARV 🇩🇪
4 Border protection vehicles 🇩🇪
16 Zetrox heavy trucks 🇩🇪
30 Undisclosed armored vehicles 🇬🇧

Aircraft
6-10 MI-24 helicopters 🇨🇿
10-12 MI-24 helicopters 🇵🇱

Special Equipment
2 NASAMS air defense launchers 🇱🇹
2 NASAMS air defense launchers 🇳🇴
2 NASAMS air defense command units Norway 🇳🇴
4 NASAMS air defense batteries 🇺🇸
2 Patriot air defense launchers Germany 🇩🇪
Storm Shadow cruise missiles 🇬🇧
SCALP cruise missiles France 🇫🇷
155mm DCIPM Cluster munitions 🇺🇸
1000 black hornet
recon drones 🇳🇴
Phoenix ghost kamikaze drones 🇺🇸
Switchblade kamikaze drones 🇺🇸
Hornet nano kamikaze drones 🇺🇸
 

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So what your saying is that a lesson learned by the United States 45 years ago, is just being learned by Russia now? You're confirming that the VKS is that far behind their American counterparts? That's horrible for Russia's hopes of being a true geopolitical rival to NATO in any conventional sense.
Yes ! My history of exchange here in summary is US #1 everybody is behind...and that applies to Russia as well.

Because we're not going to see any NATO v Russia anytime soon, the Russian air force has the luxury of failure in Ukraine, so that over time their advantage grew.
Furthermore, I've never suggested that Russia stop producing air frames. In fact, if anything, they need to get their pilots much more air time flying them, so that they know what they're doing. I'm simply commenting on the fact that since Ukraine started receiving even the smallest amount of air defense (and they haven't received all that much in reality) Russia has been absolutely terrified of flying any of their advanced aircraft anywhere near contested Ukrainian airspace.

No, but you imply that adding numbers won't factors so much, my take is the pain won't be felt now, but later when the Russians finally figures out how to employ their air force effectively.
 

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The entirety of Europe are not the problem. There are key members of Europe (looking at you France) that are not pulling their weight compared to the likes of Germany, Poland, Britain and the Baltic States.
Dont forget Greece. Did they send something to Ukraine? And they have solid army.
 

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Dont forget Greece. Did they send something to Ukraine? And they have solid army.
They quietly sent a couple Leopards 2s and earlier in the War sent some BMPs after Germany agreed to backfill them with Marders. Greece has undeniably contributed very little to the war effort, hiding behind maintaining military balance with Turkey.

That said, I never expected much from Greece, for that very reason. France (for example) doesn't really have an excuse. They're one of the 5-7 strongest military powers on the planet and they've contributed far less per capita than some much smaller, less equipped European nations.
 

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The Latest russian T80-BV upgraded tank with addon for Anti-fpv cop-cage.

Result nothing changed, russian tanks are junks (fail design from the start, it is all time blow up or fire cook up to kill personal )
You need to only spend ~$400 dollar to buy and fit drone and it is enough to destroy russian junk tanks
 

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The Latest russian T80-BV upgraded tank with addon for Anti-fpv cop-cage.

Result nothing changed, russian tanks are junks (fail design from the start, it is all time blow up or fire cook up to kill personal )
You need to only spend ~$400 dollar to buy and fit drone and it is enough to destroy russian junk tanks
What people don't realize is that while Russia's Lancet has been highly successful, Western manufacturers have recognized the success of drone warfare on the battlefield and have realized how big the market for drones is for Ukraine. As we speaked, Western drone production (both for surveillance and kamikaze) is gearing up to dwarf both Russia's capacity and capability in the space. A year from now Ukraine will be dominating Russia in the drone warfare space.
 

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Missile attack of the Russian Federation: the Air Force spoke about downed missiles and launches of "Kinzhal"




22:00, 07/26/23



Launches of 36 missiles from eight Tu-95MS strategic bombers were recorded​


The missiles entered the airspace of Ukraine from the southeast, went to the West, constantly changing the direction of flight.

On July 26, 2023, the Russian invaders launched two missile strikes on the territory of Ukraine - 36 enemy missiles were shot down by air defense forces in a day.

In addition, at about 19:00, the invaders raised MiG-31K fighter and struck with four Kh-47 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles in the direction of the Khmelnytsky region. Regarding the consequences of the Kh-47 "Dagger" launches, information is being specified.
 

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From a prominent Russian Milblogger "Bulba of Thrones"... It gives great detail into the insane, recent destruction of Russian artillery the hands of Ukraine.

The genocide of the artillery of the Russian Federation continues and is gaining momentum.
Red icons are affected howitzers, self-propelled guns, MLRS, elements of air defense systems and counter-battery radars of the Russian Federation. Blue - Ukrainian. [This is referring to the map]
These are targets hit since the beginning of the Ukrainian counter-offensive (May 9, 2023), but most of them have been destroyed in the last month and a half. Compare with the same picture from July 4th. At this rate, in a month, the superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in destroying artillery (and other targets in the depths of the line of contact) will reach one order of magnitude (10 times).
Western Osinters do the work. Each icon is accompanied by photo and video proofs with geolocation. In order to actually have parity on the battlefield, they must underestimate Ukrainian losses by 6-7 times (they cannot overestimate Russian ones - there are proofs for everything). I do not think that such an underestimation is possible: even if they have pro-Ukrainian sympathies, they are still first researchers of the war, and only secondarily propagandists. They don't have orders to increase the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with outright lies, where Ukraine is losing a lot of equipment such as Bradleys - they write about it.
The question is: can the general military stalemate persist with such dynamics? The Russian Federation destroys Bradleys, Leopards and MRAPs, and Ukraine destroys self-propelled guns, howitzers, MLRS and air defense.
I don't think [the stalemate can persist]. Artillery is more important, and the Russian Federation has a weaker industry than the West. The losses of MRAPS and Bradleys will be compensated for Ukraine, but the losses of the Russian Federation in artillery will not.
In order to continue to destroy the advancing IFVs, BMPs and tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Russian Federation needs defensive positions. When the Russian Federation runs out of self-propelled guns and howitzers, defensive positions will begin to be demolished with artillery. In addition, the practical range of Krasnopol is 17 km, and Excalibur is 35 km.
Well, the leadership of the Wahhabi Confederation [ironic name for the Russian Federation used by milbloggers to avoid naming them directly] is clearly preparing difficult decisions, just like last year. In summer, political processes and setups for preparation, in autumn - make a run for it. Preparations are clearly underway. Many units of the Russian Armed Forces were beheaded, Wagner was castrated, and the accusation against Colonel Kvachkov, the searches in Listva bookstore, and the arrest of Igor "Rallying" Girkin are clearly for a reason. It's as if the gallows know that something epic is ahead, and take control of potential points of crystallization of discontent in advance.
As you can see from the map, in addition to the traditionally hot Donetsk direction, two more areas are being hacked by the ZSU: Melitopol and Mariupol. If the West does not abandon Ukraine again, and does not cut off the GMLRS, Excaliburs and SARS reconnoitred from satellites at a critical moment, and does not clamp down on the F- 16s, then, while maintaining such dynamics, one can expect breakthroughs in the front. It is only incomprehensible why Ukraine shamefully leaked so much of its equipment long before the Russian artillery was knocked out.
Well, or you can believe that such a rate of knocking out artillery will not affect anything, and will not create any systemic effect.
Of course, the military rats and Readovka [large Ru tg channel] are cunningly silent about the genocide of the artillery of the Russian Federation. The more fun will be the moment of wonderful discoveries.

It's time for the West to pour it on. Russian blood is in the water and their artillery and air defense in the south (and around Bahkmut) is deeply degraded, making their defensive positions vulnerable. It's time for the West to ratchet up the deliveries and overwhelm the Russians using long range strike capabilities and an overwhelming armoured force.

20,000 more western trained assualt troops

100 additional Leopard 2A4/5/6s
100 additional Leopard 1A5s
100 additional PT-91s / T-72s
100 additional CV90s
100 additional Bradleys
100 additional Marders
100 additional AMX10-RC
200 additional M113s
200 additional Kirpis
100 additional Rosomaks / Sisu Pasis
100 additional FV103 Spartans
18 additional M777s
18 additional FH70s
18 additional M109A6s
18 additional M109-Ls
18 additional M109A3s
18 additional Panzerhaubtize 2000s
18 additional Firtina 1s
500,000 155mm shells
2500 Excalibur / Vulcano 155mm shells
2500 RAAM 155mm shells
20,000 120mm mortar rounds
5000 Hydra-70 rockets
5000 S-13 rockets
100 Storm Shadow cruise missiles
100 SCALP cruise missiles
100 ATACMS
2500 GMLRS
1000 JDAMS
500 Kamikaze drones

Send them 6 more strong brigades worth of equipment and have the soldiers training in Britain, Germany and Poland. As the 9 brigades that were trained for this offensive start to require rest, refit and reconstitution, have 6 more fresh, fully armed brigades ready to go. Have the first one ready for rotation in mid September, with a new brigade fully ready every subsequent month. Russia WILL not be able to keep up!
 

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Yakut mobilized talks about heavy losses among Russian mobilized and the dominance of Ukrainian artillery in Bakhmut
 

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Yakut mobilized talks about heavy losses among Russian mobilized and the dominance of Ukrainian artillery in Bakhmut
What are Yakut going to do, what can they do ?

Can Yakut even be protected without Russian Nuclear guarentee ?

China is probably just biding their time.
 

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Meant was the symbol drawn before or after capture - Ukraine or Russian side turks
Crimean Tartarians are being forced to fight against Ukraine after Crimea annexed.
Some of them were killed in the battles by Ukrainians.
Unfortunately They had been forced to take Russian citizenship.

For escape, I know a lot of Tartarians fled to Türkiye( who had Russian passport)and Germany ( Ukrainian passport).
 

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