Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Xenon54]

That used to be case until 2014. Russia claims Crimea EEZ as its own, something we disagree on. According to Russian view, Turkey and Ukraine are no longer sea neighbors. This doesn't change much re our own EEZ, but is a problem.

Then i would say let them try to enforce their view, maybe its time to de-neighbor Russia from black sea like in the good old days.

 

[bisbis]

Now closely follow the power struggle in africa. This will tell you what happened in Ukraine in the past before the war, what happened.

even in the last election, what the West did to bring the opposition to power in Türkiye is an example of what happened in Ukraine in the past!

 

[Nilgiri]

UK have cooked up this ADS and sent a number of these to Ukraine.

ASRAAM missiles and an electro-optical tracking system on a Supacat truck. Apparently responsible for a lot of unexplained Ka-52 shootdowns.

Apparently explains an abnormal amount of increased recruitment in GDLS, Thales and MBDA over the last year in UK.

 

[Nilgiri]

^^^ Just found that there is an article out on it too:

Air-To-Air Missiles From UK Now Being Used By Ukraine As SAMs

The new ad hoc ground-based air defense system is the latest advanced Western weapon rushed into service by Ukraine.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Sanchez]

UK have cooked up this ADS and sent a number of these to Ukraine.

ASRAAM missiles and an electro-optical tracking system on a Supacat truck. Apparently responsible for a lot of unexplained Ka-52 shootdowns.

Apparently explains an abnormal amount of increased recruitment in GDLS, Thales and MBDA over the last year in UK.

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I just love Supacat so much. Jack of all trades kinda platform.

 

[Huelague]

Neither Ukraine nor Russia would even look funny to any discovery Turkey makes on its own EEZ.

Iam not sure about Ukraine. We cant do much pressure on Russia, because of our depending. With these oil we could harm Russia more.

 

[Gary]

How US Patriot defences are reducing ‘unstoppable’ Russian missiles to shrapnel

A Ukrainian colonel revealed authorities were on the brink of evacuating the capital last December due to airstrikes

www.thetimes.co.uk

It is said that Zelensky is near evacuating the government by December last year due to the intensity of the bombing.
I don't know what's the wisdom behind revealing this but it does give the Russians a gross estimate of their air campaign efectiveness, and where to improve.

Despite the nay sayers, mass bombing works.! And Commanders need only to figure out when and by how much the enemy would finally crack.

In 1987, half of Tehran's population deserted the capital because there's no way Iran could stop Iraqi scuds. If one day Russian figures out way to neutralize the patriots or overwhelm them by sheer numbers. Kyiv is in big trouble.

 

[UkroTurk]

@Dmitry
Motor Sich was hit yesterday by Kinzhal s. Is Heavily damaged the factory? How would effect this attack on Turkish UAV production.

 

[Gary]

NATO Planes Watched As Three Civilian Ships Ran Russia’s Naval Blockade Of Ukraine

Sunday’s successful blockade run could signal to international shippers that it’s reasonably safe to resume operations from Ukrainian ports.

www.forbes.com

In summary:

3 cargo ships, each from Turkey, Israel and Greece reached their destination in Ukraine very recently.

Russian warship are noticably AWOL

4 NATO overwatch watching the blockade from above:

1x USN P-8
1x US Army Challenger
1x USAF RQ-4
1x NATO Command E-3 Sentry

Italian Eurofighter and Romanian F-16 ready in airbases in Romania

 

[UkroTurk]

Putin was offered to end the war in a draw

Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin does not agree to end the war against Ukraine with an "honorable draw".​

As political scientist and publicist Andrei Piontkovsky noted, the President of the Russian Federation is sure that such a scenario for the development of events will end with the loss of power for him.

"The other day, scandalous materials were published by the so-called Second Track group, which, led by the well-known Russian agent of influence Tom Graham, tried in an informal conversation to agree with Putin on the end of the war in Ukraine. The dictator was offered an "honorable draw", suggesting that most of the occupied territories remain in part of the aggressor country, and Russia ceases fire. It turned out that Vladimir Putin did not agree to an "honorable draw", although all of his entourage was thinking about it. He realized that for him this would end in a loss of power," he wrote.

Piontkovsky believes that due to internal problems, Putin will not go to Turkey to meet with Recep Tayyip Erdogan

 

[Woland]

Putin was offered to end the war in a draw

Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin does not agree to end the war against Ukraine with an "honorable draw".​

As political scientist and publicist Andrei Piontkovsky noted, the President of the Russian Federation is sure that such a scenario for the development of events will end with the loss of power for him.

"The other day, scandalous materials were published by the so-called Second Track group, which, led by the well-known Russian agent of influence Tom Graham, tried in an informal conversation to agree with Putin on the end of the war in Ukraine. The dictator was offered an "honorable draw", suggesting that most of the occupied territories remain in part of the aggressor country, and Russia ceases fire. It turned out that Vladimir Putin did not agree to an "honorable draw", although all of his entourage was thinking about it. He realized that for him this would end in a loss of power," he wrote.

Piontkovsky believes that due to internal problems, Putin will not go to Turkey to meet with Recep Tayyip Erdogan

In case anyone is wondering what the second track group is, read this:

Exclusive: The CIA's blind spot about the Ukraine war

What are Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin thinking? The Agency doesn't know, a Newsweek investigation reveals.

www.newsweek.com

Followed by:

Former U.S. officials have held secret Ukraine talks with Russians

The aim of the discussions is to lay the groundwork for potential negotiations to end the war, people briefed on the talks told NBC News.

www.nbcnews.com

There was a later article with new information in the Moscow Times but I'm having trouble finding it. This is all based on a lot of unnamed sources, but what it describes is not entirely unprobable and I don't see anything contradicting it. Obviously still take all of this with a grain of salt, but judging by history that we already know because it is now public, these kinds of informal talks and rules of engagement between great powers absolutely happened in the past. The further in history we go, the more common such practices are, and Burns is absolutely the kind of person to approve of such negotiations.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1688212468773122048

 

[bisbis]

Global İlişkiler on Instagram: "Ne düşünüyorsunuz?"

226K likes, 6,238 comments - globaliliskiler on August 4, 2023: "Ne düşünüyorsunuz?".

www.instagram.com

In the medium term, such images will occur in the war in Ukraine, both in the west and in the east. Someone will blame those responsible for wrongdoing for this war! There is no escape from reality. Sooner or later the truth comes out.

 

[contricusc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1688212468773122048

That’s a French SCALP missile. While similar to the Storm Shadow, it should be called correctly, since it has the name written on it with the colors of the French flag.

 

[Dmitry]

@Dmitry
Motor Sich was hit yesterday by Kinzhal s. Is Heavily damaged the factory? How would effect this attack on Turkish UAV production.

Yes, there have been many reports of a motor-sich attack, but there is no specifics. Yesterday I walked not far from the workshops of this plant - I did not see any damage. But this plant is very large, located in several districts of the city on both banks of the Dnieper and is surrounded by a fence. Recently, the results of all attacks on industrial enterprises are strictly secret. Administrators of local telegram channels and other social networks stop any attempts to post information about a hit on strategic targets. This is subject to criminal liability. It turns out that if a reconnaissance drone does not hang over the city, then the enemy may not know the results of the attack.
Do not forget also that the Progress Design Bureau, which is located on the same territory as Motor Sich, cooperates with the Turkish industry. In particular, engines for Bayraktar were made by Progress. It is possible that the attack was aimed precisely at Progress, as it was in May last year.

«Калибры» поразили военные заводы «Ивченко Прогресс» и «Мотор Сич» в Запорожье - Агентство Информационных Сообщений

There is another factor. It is still unclear who owns Motor Sich. There was a major Chinese investor, then there was nationalization, then the arrest of the traitor Boguslayev, the owner of the plant, which has huge ties with Russia and supplied it with helicopter engines and sabotaged the supply of helicopters to Ukraine already during the war. If Russia decided to attack MotorSich, then most likely this means that the Chinese and Russian assets are no longer there.

 

[Dmitry]

If we discover a large amount of hydrocarbon reserves in the Black Sea, I think the Ukrainian-Russian War will evolve into a completely different dimension.

What do you guys think? What do you think would happen in such a situation?

in 2014 russia already seized 4 oil rigs of the Odessa gas field in black sea, which belonged to Ukraine

 

[UkroTurk]

Ukraine blocked the ports of the Russian Federation​

The blockade of Russian ports will help to completely unblock Ukrainian ports, experts are sure.​

Ukraine attacked Russian ships and then declared the largest Russian seaports dangerous for navigation. So Ukraine got a power for negotiations with a terrorist state, because the blockade of ports for Russia is extremely painful.

This is stated in the material of RBC Ukraine.

"Ukraine has named the 6 largest ports of the aggressor - Anapa, Novorossiysk, Gelendzhik, Tuapse, Sochi and Taman - dangerous for navigation. That is, it has made it clear that these attacks will continue. This is a signal primarily for foreign ship operators and insurance companies companies: be prepared to incur losses if you continue using these ports," the publication points out.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Peter Zion speculates that Turkiye was behind the navel drones that Ukraine utilises.

For everything wise this guy says, he's also known to say some outlandish ignorant bullshit too. Like claiming in Turkiye women have to wear hijabs.

 

[Ecderha]

History with Facts.
2008 Georgia
Toilets are with Highest value

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1688545064614785024

 

[Ecderha]

watch out it is coming from behind right in you a...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1688499453584453632