Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[blackjack]

Most sources say that Russia has the 11th highest GDP in the world.

eg https://www.forbesindia.com/article/explainers/top-10-largest-economies-in-the-world/86159/1

What is happening with the ruble? That's complicated. Suffice to say that it is forecast to keep falling, leading to higher inflation, higher interest rates to counter that inflation, resulting in lower business profitability, hence lower investment.

Russian Ruble - Quote - Chart - Historical Data - News

The USDRUB decreased 0.9207 or 0.90% to 101.8211 on Monday January 20 from 102.7417 in the previous trading session. Russian Ruble - values, historical data, forecasts and news - updated on January of 2025.

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you went from its falling its falling, to actually its complicated lol? This is what I meant by you shouldnt hyperventilate yourself over unnecessary things.

I dont know where you are seeing 11th place?

 

[blackjack]

Zelensky is going to be put in an interesting negotiation spot with Trump and Putin in a few weeks or so if there is going to be a fast collapse after Pokrovsk
Does Motor Sich have some kind of contracts with Turkey's engine drones?

 

[Soldier30]

Footage from the Ukrainian drone operator training simulator. The drone simulator is intended for the Ukrainian military and is not distributed among civilians. The peculiarity of the Ukrainian drone simulator is that all the maps in the simulator are real and allow not only to practice the skills of a drone operator, but also to study the terrain of Ukraine. The video in the simulator shows an episode of the interception of a Russian-made Orlan drone.

 

[Spitfire9]

you went from its falling its falling, to actually its complicated lol? This is what I meant by you shouldnt hyperventilate yourself over unnecessary things.

I dont know where you are seeing 11th place?
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Your source quotes PPP rather than GDP. Not the same thing. I gave you a link from an economics site. Here is another list on wiki

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[blackjack]

Your source quotes PPP rather than GDP. Not the same thing.

yeah I was talking about PPP as it pertains to economy.

 

[contricusc]

yeah I was talking about PPP as it pertains to economy.

PPP doesn’t help when importing things. You pay in nominal dollars, not in dollars adjusted for PPP.

 

[blackjack]

PPP doesn’t help when importing things. You pay in nominal dollars, not in dollars adjusted for PPP.

1. 1st of all he said GDP not nominal GDP. 2. Purchasing power is a great estimate for economic strength despite the country's own debt being pretty low compared to others. There is a reason why they use GDP as an estimate to reference economies as being small or big and not nominal GDP.

What we do know is that the negotiations can start in a few weeks or a few months which from the looks of things Ukraine is at the end of the cliff from having the Russians get passed one of their final defensive fortifications. Zelensky is going to be in a very interesting place for negotiations presenting Trump that the Russians took half his country to a guy that personally rejected his invitation to his own inauguration but not other leaders that wanted to be invited.

I dont know about spitfire9 but there is a 99.9% chance of Russia getting what it mostly wants from those negotiations and finishing the war before they will somehow magically collapse before reaching the negotiating table.

 

[Spitfire9]

What we do know is that the negotiations can start in a few weeks or a few months which from the looks of things Ukraine is at the end of the cliff from having the Russians get passed one of their final defensive fortifications. Zelensky is going to be in a very interesting place for negotiations presenting Trump that the Russians took half his country to a guy that personally rejected his invitation to his own inauguration but not other leaders that wanted to be invited.

I dont know about spitfire9 but there is a 99.9% chance of Russia getting what it mostly wants from those negotiations and finishing the war before they will somehow magically collapse before reaching the negotiating table.

I agree that it is uncertain how long it will take Russia to break through Ukrainian ground defences. It is also uncertain how long the Russian economy/government finances can last out before something cracks in a big way. Which will happen first?

I have no idea how long Ukraine's ground defences can hold out.

I think that the wealth fund will run dry of liquid assets (rubles, yuan, euros, gold) in a few months. Short of Russia starting to print money or taking money from citizens' bank accounts I guess the Russian government will run out of money this year.

I think that companies will start failing if base rate is not lowered or unless further funding becomes available to them soon.

I read that Gazprom and Rosneft are planning to cut their workforce and I guess that many other companies will be planning to cut back as a defensive move.

 

[blackjack]

@Relic Close your eyes, Trump is already pushing executive orders.

Reevaluating And Realigning United States Foreign Aid – The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.

www.whitehouse.gov

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose. The United States foreign aid industry and bureaucracy are not aligned with American interests and in many cases antithetical to American values. They serve to destabilize world peace by promoting ideas in foreign countries that are directly inverse to harmonious and stable relations internal to and among countries.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of United States that no further United States foreign assistance shall be disbursed in a manner that is not fully aligned with the foreign policy of the President of the United States.

Sec. 3. (a) 90-day pause in United States foreign development assistance for assessment of programmatic efficiencies and consistency with United States foreign policy. All department and agency heads with responsibility for United States foreign development assistance programs shall immediately pause new obligations and disbursements of development assistance funds to foreign countries and implementing non-governmental organizations, international organizations, and contractors pending reviews of such programs for programmatic efficiency and consistency with United States foreign policy, to be conducted within 90 days of this order. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) shall enforce this pause through its apportionment authority.

(b) Reviews of United States foreign assistance programs. Reviews of each foreign assistance program shall be ordered by the responsible department and agency heads under guidelines provided by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Director of OMB.

(c) Determinations. The responsible department and agency heads, in consultation with the Director of OMB, will make determinations within 90 days of this order on whether to continue, modify, or cease each foreign assistance program based upon the review recommendations, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State.

(d) Resumption of paused development assistance funding. New obligations and disbursements of foreign development assistance funds may resume for a program prior to the end of the 90-day period if a review is conducted, and the Secretary of State or his designee, in consultation with the Director of OMB, decide to continue the program in the same or modified form. Additionally, any other new foreign assistance programs and obligations must be approved by the Secretary of State or his designee, in consultation with the Director of OMB.

(e) Waiver. The Secretary of State may waive the pause in Section 3(a) for specific programs.

Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

January 20, 2025.

Holy shit dude, he wasn't fucking around.

 

[Spitfire9]

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of United States that no further United States foreign assistance shall be disbursed in a manner that is not fully aligned with the foreign policy of the President of the United States.

Begs the question: is it the foreign policy of the President of the United States to support Ukraine in its fight for freedom?