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from an anglo-american perspective, the longer the war drags out the better. If they wanted Ukraine to win the USA could easily arm them with the weapons to do so. But they don't do it. This war is probably going to go on past 10 years. Americans will keep it alive for as long as its in their interest to do so.
 

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from an anglo-american perspective, the longer the war drags out the better. If they wanted Ukraine to win the USA could easily arm them with the weapons to do so. But they don't do it. This war is probably going to go on past 10 years. Americans will keep it alive for as long as its in their interest to do so.
I think the US will need to provide Russia with funding if it wants the war to last a lot longer.

Like you I came to the conclusion that Biden, after all the talk of helping Ukraine to expel the Russian invaders, did not actually want that to happen. Russia would bleed itself dry if the war could be managed by the US to become a stalemate.

By the way, that was never the British position.
 
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Russian progress on the ground...

Russian economy regression...


Personally I think this is good news - Putin is determined to continue despite crumbling finances and a crumbling economy. The longer he persists, the more damage he will do to Eussia's finances and economy and the weaker Russia will be.
 
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Just as I said @contricusc
Ukraine is conducting nothing more than an information warfare. However, reality on the ground indicate that Russia is winning👇

Oh, you means this flag?


I will repeat it again. Ukraine must do a ceasefire even if it is costly since Ukraine in the next 2-3 months will suffer enormous damage.
Currently, the cities of Pokrovsk, Myrnohrad, Vovchansk, Lyman, Siversk, Kupyansk, and Konstantinovka are on the verge of being lost

Last year, Russia only managed to capture 1 city. This year, Russia is close to capturing 5-8 cities.

By this point, it is safe to say that Ukrainian channels are providing fake info to its users

Dream on, and keep watching Russian propaganda. Ukraine is not looking for a ceasefire. Their strategy is to bleed Russia until it collapses. All Ukrainians support this strategy, and they want to build up their long range capabilities and destroy Russia‘s oil and gas industry.

Ukraine already reached a technological point where it no longer needs to stop the war, as it can now keep it going until it wins. There is a fundamental difference between Russia and Ukraine: the way they finance the war. Russia finances the war through its own economy, which is being hit by sanctions, drones and cruise missiles. Ukraine finances its war through European donations, and Europe’s economy is free from sanctions or kinetic attacks.

Russia’s economy will collapse under the weight of sanctions and explosions, and Russia won’t be able to keep up with the costs of the war. Europe’s economy will do just fine and will be able to finance Ukraine, to cite Mario Draghi: “for as long as it takes”.
 

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Oh, you means this flag?




Dream on, and keep watching Russian propaganda. Ukraine is not looking for a ceasefire. Their strategy is to bleed Russia until it collapses. All Ukrainians support this strategy, and they want to build up their long range capabilities and destroy Russia‘s oil and gas industry.

Ukraine already reached a technological point where it no longer needs to stop the war, as it can now keep it going until it wins. There is a fundamental difference between Russia and Ukraine: the way they finance the war. Russia finances the war through its own economy, which is being hit by sanctions, drones and cruise missiles. Ukraine finances its war through European donations, and Europe’s economy is free from sanctions or kinetic attacks.

Russia’s economy will collapse under the weight of sanctions and explosions, and Russia won’t be able to keep up with the costs of the war. Europe’s economy will do just fine and will be able to finance Ukraine, to cite Mario Draghi: “for as long as it takes”.
You yourself said why on earth Ukraine is screwed mate; it is because it is being funded by the EU economy. Wars are expensive and this war in particular costs billions if not trillions every year. If so, then ask yourself such a question! How on earth is Europe financing this war? From where do they get the money?
Nations such as Germany have already cancelled many services to its people in order to finance the war and this will eventually lead to lower quality of life, increased dissatisfaction and eventually loss of votes during elections. Politicians hate that.
Even Trump admitted that the US just cant supply unlimited money to Ukraine anymore

Dont you find it strange that the only ones talking about ceasefire are Western groups, politicians, and media channels? That is because they are nearly reaching their limits for what they can provide out of their own pockets. It reached a point in which they are risking their own financial independence by discussing whether to annex Russian assets and give it to Ukraine. When that happens, all foreign nations will remove their assets from Europe.

Finally, this war has reached a point where it isnt about technology anymore but more focused on manpower. Ukraine doesnt have anymore reserves to throw into the frontline by this point while Russia, according to US outlets, are pumping tens of thousands of mercenaries every month in this shitty war. In other words, no matter how fancy your weapons are, if there are no men to carry or use them, then what is the damn point in the first place?
 

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