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I can see how the warhawk faction will play: We need to "counter Iran" ---> Let's support DA CURRDS ---> Why is Turkey decoupling from US?

I hope Trump ignores those vampires.
 

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Hope so. Bring it on, it's happening one way or another at some point, might as well be now after all the shit they've been pulling for 20 years and escalating of late.

Now let's get *real* funny and have Trump & Bolton kiss & make up, Bolton front-and-center in the admin again. Mustache of Doom has the Iranians peeing themselves.
 

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Hope so. Bring it on, it's happening one way or another at some point, might as well be now after all the shit they've been pulling for 20 years and escalating of late.

Now let's get *real* funny and have Trump & Bolton kiss & make up, Bolton front-and-center in the admin again. Mustache of Doom has the Iranians peeing themselves.
Yes, I'm sure you'd love to have us all at each others throats. ;)
 

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Half of "you" (if you're talking the Middle East) are on our & Israel's side.
well there's the general population, then there's the elites, then there's your interest group. Though if you insist on continuing to identify yourself as part of the general population, I won't bother with interrupting your larp. :)
 

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He had Hook the last time as well. Not much happened besides sanctions then, Trump relented from aggressing directly.

If we assume consistency with his last term, he will do the sanctions, but I don't think he will do the foolish thing and attack Iran directly. He's going to be looking at creating an equilibrium in the Middle East which satisfies Israel and enables American withdrawal. The Palestinians are fucked in this equation. Draining the countries vitality for more silly wars, would completely defeat his premise of focusing on domestic revitalization.

Obviously this presupposes, at a minimum, that the political conditions domestically are a replica of the last term. However, we do not yet know how the internal power structures will deal with Trump this time around.

In the Turkish, Pakistani context if Trump successfully acquires the reigns of the countries foreign policy, perhaps having to squash some neocons in the process, this will certainly be a positive development. Both countries will be under much less political pressure. The big question mark is what the security apparatus has planned for him this time around.
 

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Heh. Saw his wife was wearing all red on election day, too. 😃 Like, sure, it's a conspiracy thinking he *wanted* Kamala to lose, he totally didn't, but it's funny to think about. Grampa just going out with a smile and a big "fuck you".

Dude just invited Trump to a White House visit too. I, too, would also uphold all usual business-as-usual norms & niceties like that if I thought the incoming guy was Literally Hitler and about to destroy the republic & ban all other parties & future elections and publically shoot Whoopi Goldberg. Adds up. :rolleyes:
 

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