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Kita khan masih belum tau versi yg akan diambil seperti apa. Taapi kalau yg diambil adalah versi AIP, pertimbangan nya lebih karena kesiapan teknologi nya, dimana Naval Group (kalau setau saya) masih belum siap dgn battery Li-ion utk saat ini.Dan tau sendiri kita khan ngejar waktu utk kesiapanan asset2x alutsista & SDM nya juga sudah urgent. Selain itu AIP nya Naval Group adalah jenis Diesel fuel reformer, dimana tidak butuh tanki terpisah utk AIP nya (contoh ; tanki hydrogen)

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Emang waktu LIBRT naval group kayaknya belum siap di periode belanja kemenhan saat ini, kalau kelamaan nunggu bisa molor nih nambah kaselnya. AIP naval group juga dipasang di ssk daphne Pakistan kan Pak? Itu ilustrasi aip scorpene x rudder, menarik...,
Kira kira indonesia bakal beli SCALP naval buat dipasang di scorpene kah ?
 

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Emang waktu LIBRT naval group kayaknya belum siap di periode belanja kemenhan saat ini, kalau kelamaan nunggu bisa molor nih nambah kaselnya. AIP naval group juga dipasang di ssk daphne Pakistan kan Pak?
Saya ga ikuti perkembangan kalau yg dipasang di kasel nya 🇵🇰.

Itu ilustrasi aip scorpene x rudder, menarik...,
Kalau utk perairan dangkal (separuh sisi barat negara kita) memang butuh X rudder. Dan mestinya kita ambil Scorpene yg pakai X rudder

Kira kira indonesia bakal beli SCALP naval buat dipasang di scorpene kah ?
walach kadah... gawe opo kasel kita kok mau di isi SCALP (malah nambahi ruwet logistik). Kalau butuh SCALP mendingan pasang dii Rafale.
TuPokSi kasel kita jangan disamakan dengan kasel tenaga nuklir yg umumnya juga diberi peran Land Strike. Kalau kita cukup peran tradsional nya kasel yaitu ASuW. Utk peran tradisional aja kita sebenarnya minimal butuh 12 kasel modern lho (ingat 🇨🇳 juga bisa masuk dari ALKI II)
 

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walach kadah... gawe opo kasel kita kok mau di isi SCALP (malah nambahi ruwet logistik). Kalau butuh SCALP mendingan pasang dii Rafale.
Noted. G mungkin juga bakal retaliate sampai ke mainland pakai ssk.
 

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Noted. G mungkin juga bakal retaliate sampai ke mainland pakai ssk.

Ngapain jauh2 ke mainland sana. Kan bisa dipakai untuk serang forward base mereka di LCS atau di pulau yg berhasil mereka rebut lainnya.

Pada akhirnya keputusan ada di tangan MoD. Klo TNI AL merasa perlu & MoD serta bu Sri setuju, yaudah.

Or untuk nyerang yg udah terlanjur mendarat di sini (skenario mari bung rebut kembali as usual)
 

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If folks know of any other watering holes where the Indonesian membership gather etc, could we please notify them that the password-reset/VPN problem forum issue has been more or less resolved (i.e they need to reset their pw just once etc if they havent already).

Some are concerned the activity has dropped in the section here and that there may be members that dont know its been resolved or are waiting etc.

@AlphaMike et al.
 

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ndak lah, penyakit penyakit gini selalu ada di indonesia, tapi ga pernah sampai mewabah parah kyk flu burung. kementan bahkan PMI punya unit reaksi cepat nanganin kyk ginian, dulu lebih cepat penanganannnya ketika ada unit anu di belakang balitbangkes percetakan negara, yg diamuk ama emak emak judes terpidana kasuk KPK :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

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ndak lah, penyakit penyakit gini selalu ada di indonesia, tapi ga pernah sampai mewabah parah kyk flu burung. kementan bahkan PMI punya unit reaksi cepat nanganin kyk ginian, dulu lebih cepat penanganannnya ketika ada unit anu di belakang balitbangkes percetakan negara, yg diamuk ama emak emak judes terpidana kasuk KPK :LOL::LOL::LOL:
Kalau gk salah bbrp minggu/bulan lalu juga sempet heboh wabah sapi cuma gk rame lagi (terelesaikan dgn cepat?)
 

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It appears as though our neighbor, the Philippines has Bongbong Marcos, THAT Marcos the dictator's son as their favorite Presidential candidate. Well, there are two main implications:

1. Democracy can be dumb sometimes, like that time when people voted Austrian Painter as Germany's leader. Now in the 21st century, people freely voted for the Filipino equivalent of Tommy Suharto as President.

2. It is a diplomatic win for China, though how much so may depend on many factors. Philippines' western-leaning military modernization plan might be halted a bit, but even more significant is the possibility of them being dragged further into China's sphere of influence.
 

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It appears as though our neighbor, the Philippines has Bongbong Marcos, THAT Marcos the dictator's son as their favorite Presidential candidate. Well, there are two main implications:

1. Democracy can be dumb sometimes, like that time when people voted Austrian Painter as Germany's leader. Now in the 21st century, people freely voted for the Filipino equivalent of Tommy Suharto as President.

2. It is a diplomatic win for China, though how much so may depend on many factors. Philippines' western-leaning military modernization plan might be halted a bit, but even more significant is the possibility of them being dragged further into China's sphere of influence.

Bong bong Marcos ya....

Di Indonesia kita juga ada pak menhan Prabowo sih yang ngebet banget pengen jadi presiden, dia kan mantu presiden Soeharto juga. Golongan elite Orba kelas atas itu, dan dia salah satu kandidat terkuat 2024 karena partai pengusungnya udah pasti ngusung dia (Gerindra), sementara PDI P dan Golkar ga punya tokoh "pimpinan partai" lain yang berkharisma yang bisa nandingin Prabowo. Gak yakin Megawati mau majuin Ganjar Pranowo atau Risma setelah kasus sindiran Jokowi sebagai anggota partai.

Sementara itu tokoh lain model Ridwan Kamil, Anies, AHY dan lain lain selain ada yang belum punya platform, treshold electoral partai yang kira kira mengusung mereka seperti Demokrat, Nasdem, PKS dkk itu angkanya pada kecil kecil semua jadi masih belum pasti juga mereka bisa mencalonkan diri.
 

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