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Rafale F4.1 France air force
very beautiful isn't it?


cr. Armee de lair twitter
 

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Btw, now 42 Rafales pretty much a certainty, how about their weapon?

I think it's okay to postpone it a little bit. Let's skip old Mica and go with NG version instead. With Mica with good range we might no need to depend on Meteor too much.
 

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Rip for the victims


Btw, this kinda remind me, there is actually regulation to prevent Civilian to build residence in and around critical infrastructure like this one or military establishment. But there is always oknum playing in the gap of regulation and let the civilian to "bought" land very near to such infrastructure.

Plumpang fire: Jokowi calls for synchronizing joint spatial plan​


4th March 2023



State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs) Minister Erick Thohir (third left) at a press conference after visiting the Pertamina Central Hospital in Jakarta on Saturday (March 4, 2023) to meet victims injured in a fire at Pertamina’s Plumpang fuel terminal. (ANTARA/HO-SOEs Ministry/rst)

Jakarta (ANTARA) - State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs) Minister Erick Thohir has said that President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) has directed the local and central governments to synchronize their joint spatial plan following the Pertamina fuel terminal fire in Plumpang, North Jakarta.

"President Jokowi has instructed local and central governments regarding spatial planning together with the National Police (Polri) and the SOEs Ministry," Thohir informed at a press conference at the Pertamina Central Hospital in Jakarta on Saturday.

Looking at the current condition of national vital objects, Thohir said that the average buffer zone separating residential areas from fuel terminals and fuel refineries is too little.

"Pertamina's buffer zone from 1971 to 1987 was in a safe condition. However, after 1998, there were a lot of buffer zone losses. It did not only occur in Plumpang, but also in other areas," the minister noted.

He said two years ago, he had ever spoken with Pertamina, state-owned mining holding MIND ID, state-electricity company PLN, and state-owned fertilizer company Pupuk Indonesia about remapping the buffer zone in a safe manner.

If that is not possible, the minister informed that there is a relocation option that the companies can exercise. A suggestion for shifting Plumpang fuel terminal to Pelindo port was made two years ago, he added.

"For now, I think it is impossible for us to work alone. We need support from the regional government regarding this buffer zone and relocation. I think President Jokowi will make sure about this in the next few days regarding the medium- and long-term plan," Thohir added.

Earlier, he said he planned to rearrange the zoning locations in a number of national vital objects managed by SOEs. He informed that the rearrangement of national vital objects had to be done properly to prevent a negative impact on the surrounding neighborhoods.

He informed that the rearrangement of national vital objects’ borders near residential housing must be carried out to prevent incidents such as the fire at Plumpang fuel terminal on Friday night.

Vice President Ma'ruf Amin also urged Pertamina to immediately find solutions for residential areas near fuel terminals and fuel refineries.

Related news: Some SOE facilities to be rearranged as safety measure: Thohir
Related news: Jakarta prioritizing baby food assistance at Plumpang fire shelters












Reporter: Aji Cakti, Resinta S
Editor: Rahmad Nasution
COPYRIGHT © ANTARA 2023

 

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protes ayam berkokok waktu pagi hari
Nih masih mending protes suara ayam, gw dulu kerja as duty manager di Boutique hotel di daerah ampera kemang, ada turis lebanon yg notabene agama islam minta gw negur mesjid di belakang hotel supaya ga pasang pengeras buat adzan subuh, sampai bos gw akhirnya minta gw ngomong sm pengurus mesjid, ya gw tolak lah, gw kasih tau resikonya bakal ada isu sara, paling hotel dibakar massa, bos sama nih tenant bulanan ngeyel, manggil yayasan marinir tempat security kita sewa, yg datang langsung jendralnya, di maki maki lah owner + tuh lebanon sm tuh jendral wkwkwkw ga kebayang kalau beneran ownernya Mrs.V negur tuh mesjid, gw yakin bakal kejadian tuh rame
 

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Culture shock sih namanya juga orang luar, ada yang bisa menerima ada juga yang engga.
 

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Kita seharusnya tidak membiasakan budaya yang belum tentu positif.

Jika suara speaker dinilai terlalu keras, maka kecilkan, atau biasakan ikuti jadwal agar tidak terlalu bergantung pada suara speaker

Berlaku juga bagi budaya lain seperti kondangan di jalan, memakai fasilitas umum untuk kepentingan pribadi (korupsi???), menurut saya ini budaya yang buruk dan harus kita tinggalkan, perlu ada kesadaran diri
 

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Kita seharusnya tidak membiasakan budaya yang belum tentu positif.

Jika suara speaker dinilai terlalu keras, maka kecilkan, atau biasakan ikuti jadwal agar tidak terlalu bergantung pada suara speaker

Berlaku juga bagi budaya lain seperti kondangan di jalan, memakai fasilitas umum untuk kepentingan pribadi (korupsi???), menurut saya ini budaya yang buruk dan harus kita tinggalkan, perlu ada kesadaran diri

Wah kalo kondangan di jalan itu adalah salah satu sumber makan siang saya pas kuliah dulu....
 

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Soundwaves itself gradually recede with the increase of distance, so off course the ones getting close to the sound naturally heard it louder than the ones further. The call to salah will off course have to consider not only the people hearing it loudly when they are near, but also people afar and if they can hear it. There has yet to be a standard of what is considered tolerable of sound.

You know I have yet to see a muslim getting disturbed by the call of adzan. Behind this is actually the hidden dislike of islam itself.
 

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Ada yang tahu C130J baru kita bakal mendarat dimana?
 

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Rip for the victims


Btw, this kinda remind me, there is actually regulation to prevent Civilian to build residence in and around critical infrastructure like this one or military establishment. But there is always oknum playing in the gap of regulation and let the civilian to "bought" land very near to such infrastructure.
Warga sudah ada di situ sebelum depo pertamina ada
Pertamina sudah pernah kalah di pengadilan tahun 1992

Lalu sebelum kejadian di depo plumpang, pertamina sudah 5 Kali Kebakaran dalam 2 tahun terakhir
Masalah jelas ada di pertamina, tidak perlu nyalahin korban
 

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