Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[satria]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745235982482657623

kerjasama tidak dibatalkan tapi ToT harus nambah ...psywar itu indah

 

[Gary]

Pentagon floats plan for its Syrian Kurd allies to partner with Assad against ISIS

The proposal, which the head of the Syrian Democratic Forces denounced as a "rotten plan," comes as part of a renewed review of Syria policy by the US State Department.

www.al-monitor.com

Anyway, if it finally comes true, I expect heavy persecution of the Kurds. Nobody likes them there not even the SAA, which they betray many times (notable in Hasakeh).

It is imperative the the Arabs to heavily crush and persecute the Kurds once the Americans are out, and make an example of the Kurds to 'silently' send a message to israel (which the Kurds really liked and aspire to become the second israel) that eventually you will be abandoned and we will wipe you out.

Note that attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq by the Islamic resistance will force PM Sudani to eventually close the border with Syria. Without Iraq, U.S. adventures in NES will fail miserably as their logistical lifeline will be cut.


Best way is of course for Turkiye and Assad to form a plan to carve Rojava in two, with Assad regaining borders with Iraq, while Turkiye creates more buffer zone. This can be done and this is better than having the Americans there.

https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1749554945873904117

Next in line is of course the destruction of the Iraqi Kurdistan project. Iran and Iraq's cooperation will be key here.

The Second Israel they say LOL

 

[schuimpjes]

maaf masbro, sy ga jago debat dan ga da data akurat ... tapi bila dalam 3 bulan 25 000 korba wafat n gara2 mo brantas Hamas ... ga masuk akal .

sy bukan pencinta Hamas, tapi bila berada di Gaza ... apapun sy lakukan buat bales ke israel .

But whatever it is, legally it cannot be called as genocide. For something to be called as genocide need certain criteria to be fulfilled, for example, done ‘systematically’, order from the most top to bottom to exterminate certain political, demographical groups etc.

For example, if a military company killing all villagers of certain village, it cannot be bluntly called as a genocide, that called as mass killings. Investigation needed are this action did with the order from the top to kill all those people, if not then it is not a genocide. Yes, genocide is ‘legal’ term rather than everyday casual term that we use.

 

[satria]

But whatever it is, legally it cannot be called as genocide. For something to be called as genocide need certain criteria to be fulfilled, for example, done ‘systematically’, order from the most top to bottom to exterminate certain political, demographical groups etc.

For example, if a military company killing all villagers of certain village, it cannot be bluntly called as a genocide, that called as mass killings. Investigation needed are this action did with the order from the top to kill all those people, if not then it is not a genocide. Yes, genocide is ‘legal’ term rather than everyday casual term that we use.

debat kusir gini bukan area sy, masbro

sy mah kaya prajurit bila terdesak ya hajar aj ... apalgi rumah atau kluarga udah jadi korban ... no way hose for legal2an ..

 

[Gary]

debat kusir gini bukan area sy, masbro

sy mah kaya prajurit bila terdesak ya hajar aj ... apalgi rumah atau kluarga udah jadi korban ... no way hose for legal2an ..

 

[schuimpjes]

At least those countries that sok keras need to make their narratives better. They are state level, not Pro–OPM NGOs level.

Minimal buat narasi nya yang niat lah

 

[schuimpjes]

Honestly, Israeli–Palestinian conflict is the worst for me. The only thing it produce is hatred. Started just about this and that ethnic groups claim of this and that land, why religions comes in and anyone so chronically dragged here? So chronic that maybe even parents, teachers far away would spread and preserve the hatred to its children and pupils. The effects of this conflict just too damaging.

 

[satria]

Media itu menyebutkan salah satu capres Indonesia bahkan sampai unggul hingga mencapai suara 50 persen dengan judul "Who will be the next president of Indonesia?"

The Economist Soroti Elektabilitas Anies-Prabowo-Ganjar Jelang Pilpres

Tabloid asal Inggris The Economist merilis hasil survei mengenai tiga capres RI, Anies Baswedan, Prabowo Subianto, Ganjar Pranowo, di Pilpres 2024.

www.cnnindonesia.com

Nekat

 

[Gary]

A good documentary by DW to understand the minds of these zionists

The good thing about what's happening in Gaza right now is that it happens at the time where everyone is literally a walking NEWS AGENCY of their own, with a phone and internet access everyone could showcase the brutality of the zionist settlers, this is not something normal as late as the late 2000s where the news must be 'filtered' by the state and that state is more often a client state that didn't wish to antagonize Israel.

Arabs and Muslims are going to explode in population at the end of this century. There will be more Arabs in the world at this particular geographic location (only)...

Then there will be Chinese (which will drop to half their size in 2100). And most of these people are young

Israel really don't understand what kind of Pandora's box they're opening here with their open genocide in Gaza. An entire projected 900B+ Arabs + 2.5B+ non-Arab Muslims all around the world are now going to hate them to their very core.

The usual tactics of normalization such as "Israel is not our enemy" or " We are both Abrahamic culture" won't cut it anymore. 2.5 billion Muslims worldwide are going to make sure that they will not exist anymore and if they fail in their generation, they will make sure the generation after them carry on the project to end this zionist entity. Israel WON'T outlast us, they're too small and they're dependent on foreign help.

For example, I don't think these kind of moves will be acceptable anymore after this:

Also If you are Muslims, please remember that in Occupied Palestine, the Aqsa complex is under occupation and there's no reason for you to even think about normalization with Israel (unless of course you're a traitor which is plenty from time to time). Whenever you think about "economic benefits yada yada", please remember that these people, our brothers in Palestine risks their lives under occupation so that the Mosque stays functioning. This is them, a few protecting the honor of 1.3 billion Muslims in their holy land. What makes you think you could put your weight behind the talk of normalization ?

Israeli soldiers step on prayer mats, assault worshippers inside Al Aqsa

Israeli soldiers assault Palestinian worshippers inside the Al Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem, forcing them to leave in the midst of their p...

www.youtube.com

 

[schuimpjes]

How similar it is lol?

 

[Lordimperator]

kerjasama tidak dibatalkan tapi ToT harus nambah ...psywar itu indah

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745235982482657623

Yah tweetnya dihapus

 

[Umigami]

Yah tweetnya dihapus

Masih kelihatan disini

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750122497889239545

 

[Lordimperator]

Masih kelihatan disini

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750122497889239545

Screenshot dulu

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750314560647520599

I guess which means AH140 with Turkiye armaments comes true, contrary to his youtube before

Karena kejelasannya udah muncul ke permukaan, dia gak bisa jual opini itu lagi.

 

[schuimpjes]

The difference between one strike capabilities with another is called as strike gap, and this is the gap that many in Australia talks about. Some say that Australia even need B-21 to lessen the strike gap, lessen the gap against who? Anyone already know.

Their approach for today’s situation called as “strategic competition”, and by that, on defense policy, anyone could imagine if they not only need A2/AD capabilities, but also strike capabilities. And also about defense, they not just see defense is just in the ‘moat’ (sea-air gap, Australian term?), but also against space based and cyber threats. Even in moat, world know new threat called hypersonic weapons that no or almost no capability can intercept it now.

Add in this time where grey zone conflict is become the norm; space, cyber and special operation capabilities are the weapons of choice, the so called “modern triad”, handy weapons to waging war and prevent/deter in grey zone threats.

Indonesia need to be realistic. If chasing balance of power against China, Australia even talk about B-21, what can this developing country can do? Do what they do by trying to balance the power? One can be optimistic, but reality is where you live in. Use our defense budgets efficiently, more prioritization of what posture we gonna do rather than put money to all baskets that only thin capabilities we can get our hands on. Forget about chasing the strike gap, even limited strike capability against today’s potential adversary A2/AD capabilities udah bagus banget.

Edit: minor words corrections.

 

[NEKO]

https://www.trtworld.com/turkiye/silent-occupation-are-zionists-attempting-to-expand-into-cyprus-island-15999042

 

[schuimpjes]

https://www.trtworld.com/turkiye/silent-occupation-are-zionists-attempting-to-expand-into-cyprus-island-15999042

Israeli relations with Nicosia pretty good now, if not better. In case situation in Israel is getting dire, they can go to Cyprus for evacuation.

 

[Lordimperator]

The difference between one strike capabilities with another is called as strike gap, and this is the gap that many in Australia talks about. Some say that Australia even need B-21 to lessen the strike gap, lessen the gap against who? Anyone already know.

Their approach for today’s situation called as “strategic competition”, and by that, on defense policy, anyone could imagine if they not only need A2/AD capabilities, but also strike capabilities. And also about defense, they not just see defense is just in the ‘moat’ (sea-air gap, Australian term?), but also against space based and cyber threats. Even in moat, world know new threat called hypersonic weapons that no or almost no capability can intercept it now.

Add in this time where grey zone conflict is become the norm; space, cyber and special operation capabilities are the weapons of choice, the so called “modern triad”, handy weapons to waging war and prevent/deter in grey zone threats.

Indonesia need to be realistic. If chasing balance of power against China, Australia even talk about B-21, what can this developing country can do? Do what they do by trying to balance the power? One can be optimistic, but reality is where you live in. Use our defense budgets efficiently, more prioritization of what posture we gonna do rather than put money to all baskets that only thin capabilities we can get our hands on. Forget about chasing the strike gap, even limited strike capability against today’s potential adversary A2/AD capabilities udah bagus banget.

Edit: minor words corrections.

Submarine launched land attack missiles.
Getting SCALP naval, or its derivative for our hiu kencana armada.

 

[schuimpjes]

Submarine launched land attack missiles.
Getting SCALP naval, or its derivative for our hiu kencana armada.

Stand-off capabilities is not panacea actually, SCALP or alike could easily intercept. If talking about bombing (with missiles lol) Syria, for example joint US, UK, French bombings of Assad’s chemical weapons facilities, yes, cruise missiles would be effective, maybe less than 10% intercepted, but how about China?

Panacea now is hypersonic weapons. Only few can get their hand’s on it now; Iranian Fattah-1, Japanese project for it (HVGP), Brahmos etc

Edit: Brahmos yang hipersonik masih under development ternyata wkwk. Makanya agak gak percaya aja, masak punya rudal hipersonik ayem-ayem aja padaan.

 

[schuimpjes]

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4422149-end-americas-unwise-alliance-with-qatar/

An article advocating to stop Qatar’s Major Non NATO Ally (MNNA) status to state sponsor of terrorism lol, what a drastic change if ever happen. The reason because Qatar is low-key pro to Hamas etc. Other gulf monarchs also ever ostracized Qatar because of the same reason, I think relations getting better now, but not fully recovered.

“We need to call Al Jazeera what it is — a foreign agent that promotes terrorism and anti-Israel and anti-American sentiment.”