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So, nambah Rafale gak nih?
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LIVE: Macron attends annual Bastille Day parade | REUTERS
French President Emmanuel Macron attends the annual Bastille Day military parade on the Champs-Elysees avenue in Paris with Indonesian President Prabowo Subi...
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Itu entar Rafale cin ….
Ini juga belum jelas penambahan 184 triliun itu dari pagu anggaran awal 166 T atau setelah direvisi 247 T.
Kalau penambahannya dari pagu awal 166 T maka tahun 2026 persentase anggaran pertahanan Indonesia dengan GDP sudah 1,5%, tapi kalau penambahannya dari 247 T (setelah revisi anggaran 2025) maka akan menjadi 1,9-2% dari GDP.
Berubah! Ini 15 Kementerian Lembaga dengan Anggaran Terbesar di 2025
Pemerintah melakukan perubahan belanja dalam anggaran pendapatan dan belanja negara (APBN) 2025.
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Rafale, Caesar cannons, Scorpène submarines... The Indonesian army has become the "little sister" of the French army in Asia
Recent Indonesian arms orders have been good news for French manufacturers: two A400M transport aircraft (Airbus Defence & Space) in 2021, 42 Rafale (Dassault Aviation) in 2022, 13 GM400 long-range surveillance radars (Thales) and two Scorpène submarines (Naval Group) in 2024. The Indonesian armed forces have also had Caesar guns (KNDS, ex-Nexter) since 2012.
The A400Ms are scheduled for delivery at the end of the year, with the first Indonesian Rafales expected in early 2026.
Discussions are still underway regarding a possible purchase of A330 MRTT air-to-air refueling and transport aircraft (Airbus), which the French Air and Space Force already flies.
"Once this equipment is delivered, Indonesia will be the partner with which the French armed forces will have the largest amount of shared equipment in the region," explained Captain Nicolas Rossignol, head of the Asia, Oceania, and Latin America department of the DGRIS, during a press briefing at the Ministry of the Armed Forces.
Armaments Contracts and Industrial Partnerships
Emmanuel Macron's recent visit to Indonesia at the end of May was a further illustration of this growing cooperation: Minister of the Armed Forces Sébastien Lecornu signed letters of intent with his counterpart Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin to acquire additional equipment. If the negotiations are successful, they could lead to the purchase of Rafale fighter jets, light frigates, Scorpène submarines, and Caesar cannons.
The time since the signing of these letters of intent seems a little short to announce a firm contract during the Indonesian president's visit, but nothing is out of the question.
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Recent Indonesian arms orders have been good news for French manufacturers: two A400M transport aircraft (Airbus Defence & Space) in 2021, 42 Rafale (Dassault Aviation) in 2022, 13 GM400 long-range surveillance radars (Thales) and two Scorpène submarines (Naval Group) in 2024. The Indonesian armed forces have also had Caesar guns (KNDS, ex-Nexter) since 2012.
The A400Ms are scheduled for delivery at the end of the year, with the first Indonesian Rafales expected in early 2026.
Discussions are still underway regarding a possible purchase of A330 MRTT air-to-air refueling and transport aircraft (Airbus), which the French Air and Space Force already flies.
"Once this equipment is delivered, Indonesia will be the partner with which the French armed forces will have the largest amount of shared equipment in the region," explained Captain Nicolas Rossignol, head of the Asia, Oceania, and Latin America department of the DGRIS, during a press briefing at the Ministry of the Armed Forces.
Armaments Contracts and Industrial Partnerships
Emmanuel Macron's recent visit to Indonesia at the end of May was a further illustration of this growing cooperation: Minister of the Armed Forces Sébastien Lecornu signed letters of intent with his counterpart Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin to acquire additional equipment. If the negotiations are successful, they could lead to the purchase of Rafale fighter jets, light frigates, Scorpène submarines, and Caesar cannons.
The time since the signing of these letters of intent seems a little short to announce a firm contract during the Indonesian president's visit, but nothing is out of the question.
Rafale, canons Caesar, sous-marins Scorpène... L'armée indonésienne est devenue la "petite sœur" de l'armée française en Asie
La France et l'Indonésie célèbrent en 2025 le 75ème anniversaire de leur coopération bilatérale. Invitée d'honneur du 14-Juillet, l'Indonésie est un partenaire de premier plan de la France dans la zone Indo-Pacifique.
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Sampe Trump ngomong gini, deal-nya bukan maen keliatannya
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Perasaan pernah baca post di twitter/x nya KERIS 2-3 bulan ke belakang, salah satu menteri Trump (Menhan?, lupa) bilang kalau beli senjata dari Amerika nggak akan mempengaruhi tarif? Udah agak lama, jadi males ubek2.
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Baguslah kalo bisa begitu, mendingan beli aset yang bagus dan bisa dipake buat kepentingan kita … selama banyak aturan mending cari yang lain , biar dibawah kelasnya tapi bisa di pake dimanapun tanpa beda2in kepentingan .
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Dalam unggahan di akun Instagram pribadinya, @prabowo, Kepala Negara menyatakan telah melakukan pembicaraan melalui telepon dengan Trump.
"Kami sepakat untuk membawa hubungan perdagangan antara Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat ke era baru yang saling menguntungkan bagi kedua negara kita yang besar," tulisnya, Rabu (16/7/2025).
Dalam pernyataan lanjutan yang diunggah di Truth Social, Trump menyebut bahwa Indonesia telah berkomitmen untuk membeli produk energi dari AS senilai US$15 miliar, produk pertanian senilai US$4,5 miliar, dan 50 unit pesawat Boeing-banyak di antaranya model Boeing 777.
Pernyataan ini senada dengan laporan sebelumnya bahwa maskapai Garuda Indonesia sedang dalam tahap negosiasi untuk membeli antara 50 hingga 75 pesawat Boeing.
Jika kesepakatan ini benar terealisasi, maka tarif 19% akan menggantikan rencana sebelumnya di mana Trump mengancam akan mengenakan tarif sebesar 32% terhadap produk Indonesia. Hal ini menunjukkan adanya kompromi tertentu dalam proses pembicaraan bilateral yang berlangsung di luar jalur negosiasi dagang formal.
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gajel nih trump, apa ada yang lain?
"Kami sepakat untuk membawa hubungan perdagangan antara Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat ke era baru yang saling menguntungkan bagi kedua negara kita yang besar," tulisnya, Rabu (16/7/2025).
Dalam pernyataan lanjutan yang diunggah di Truth Social, Trump menyebut bahwa Indonesia telah berkomitmen untuk membeli produk energi dari AS senilai US$15 miliar, produk pertanian senilai US$4,5 miliar, dan 50 unit pesawat Boeing-banyak di antaranya model Boeing 777.
Pernyataan ini senada dengan laporan sebelumnya bahwa maskapai Garuda Indonesia sedang dalam tahap negosiasi untuk membeli antara 50 hingga 75 pesawat Boeing.
Jika kesepakatan ini benar terealisasi, maka tarif 19% akan menggantikan rencana sebelumnya di mana Trump mengancam akan mengenakan tarif sebesar 32% terhadap produk Indonesia. Hal ini menunjukkan adanya kompromi tertentu dalam proses pembicaraan bilateral yang berlangsung di luar jalur negosiasi dagang formal.
Prabowo Angkat Bicara Usai Trump Umumkan Tarif Impor RI 19%
Presiden Prabowo Subianto mengumumkan kesepakatan tarif impor 19% dengan AS. Trump memuji hubungan perdagangan yang saling menguntungkan antara kedua negara.
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Trump Ketok Tarif 19% untuk RI, Mendag: Ini Peluang!
Mendag Budi Santoso buka suara perihal keputusan Presiden AS Donald Trump yang memberikan tarif impor barang RI sebesar 19%
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Trump Incar Mineral Indonesia, Kementerian ESDM: Akses Sudah Terbuka Sejak Lama
Kementerian ESDM menanggapi permintaan Presiden AS Donald Trump terkait akses penuh atas komoditas mineral Indonesia. Pemerintah menyebut akses ekspor mineral selama ini sudah terbuka untuk siapa pun yang ingin membeli.
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gajel nih trump, apa ada yang lain?
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Kalau gak niat ngapain LoA masih diurus?
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Prabowo visits Belarus, invites Lukashenko to Indonesia
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has expressed his willingness to accept Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto's invitation to visit Indonesia, ...
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sangkain bahas alutsista
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Masih nunggu trade dari sisi defence apa?
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Ah elah, Prancis aneh" wae, udah hubungan tambah mesra malah dinodain begini
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Kalau soal Rafale gak ada berita 14 juli kemarin, bisa aja karena blue book belum jelas sih.
Mending Macron tarik lagi dah keharusan soal buka hubungan dengan negara timteng itu, mumpung masih ada waktu kelihatannya.
Dahulukan kepentingan Perancis lah...
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Italy, Turkiye, and China :
BCA dan BDS itu kirain bank
, setelah baca ulang2, oh... Boeing Commercial Airplanes + Boeing Defense, Space & Security.Btw, bener kan, beli senjata dari US nggak akan menurunkan tarif, menteri Trump nya yg bilang. Makanya nggak dimasukkan dalam deal.
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US: senjata gak bisa jadi penyeimbang neraca perdagangan
French: gak ada angin gak ada hujan ngide bikin Indonesia mengakui Israel, gak nyambung banget.
2 negara ini lagi mabok kah?
French: gak ada angin gak ada hujan ngide bikin Indonesia mengakui Israel, gak nyambung banget.
2 negara ini lagi mabok kah?
