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[Zapper]

 

[Oublious]

They are trying to erase Uyghurs with stupid propaganda going on, even her in Defencehub .

 

[xizhimen]

India's China obsession, should concern more about Kashmir. Uighurs averagely make several times more income than average Indians, it's funny for a super poor guy to worry about a rich fellow.

 

[Nilgiri]

Al jazeera is an Indian news channel apparently

No one smart gives a crap about where you shift/assert around 20%+ fake GDP to assert this and that about "muh greater income" either:

Yes China Is Lying About the Size of Its Economy

Not that shocking when you think about it.

nationalinterest.org

Muh GDP!:

And that's assuming that the 2008 baseline figures weren’t themselves over-inflated. Back in 2007, Li Keqiang (then a regional party boss but now the premier of China) famously called them “man-made.” And the lower the 2008 base number, the lower the imputed figure for today.

 

[xizhimen]

Al jazeera is an Indian news channel apparently

No one smart gives a crap about where you shift/assert around 20%+ fake GDP to assert this and that about "muh greater income" either:

Chinese GDP growth is backed by all indicators and numbers from foreign trade departments, 20% fake? you must be talking about India, which changed standard of measurement to bloat its GDP but on the ground you don't see any significant progress, but everyday in China, some mega projects either finish or start.

india fake gdp - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[xizhimen]

You can deny all Chinese statistics, but go to every Chinese city, county and village and see for yourself the massive unbridgeable gap in development level between China and India.

 

[Nilgiri]

Chinese GDP growth is backed by all indicators and numbers from foreign trade departments, 20% fake? you must be talking about India, which changed standard of measurement to bloat its GDP but on the ground you don't see any significant progress, but everyday in China, some mega projects either finish or start.

india fake gdp - Google Search

www.google.com

You literally are someone that doesn't understand how someone can read PDF while being banned there.

So yeah it is patently obvious why you do not understand something far more brain-cell intensive....like what a correlation between trade and (base) GDP even means....if the GDP was inflated to begin with.

This is my absolute last warning to you (I will look past your severe intelligence handicap, as nothing can be done about that):

- If someone is from country A and posts on China/Xinjiang, that is NO logical recourse to derail the thread (off-topic) based on your low-intelligent take on Country A

- The asserted wumao collectivist logic that because someone is from another country, that they cannot comment or post on another country that the wumao-mob asserts is doing better in whatever indicator (even running with the assertion for sake of argument) is frankly ridiculous and decrepit.

The second one certainly does not and did not apply to PRC when it obsessed about foreign policy + internal issues of far richer nations.....all based on its (ironically) imported western (german-sourced and soviet-implemented) economic and political model.

Nor did it apply to PRC/Mao itself when it casually mass murdered its own people in the 10's of millions, letting them resort to cannibalism even....while continuing to forcibly-acquire and export grain from the same people.

If PRC as a collective state could assert and blab geopolitically during that era (while it was in such a state), there is even less scope for an individual wumao scope to apply on another poster. Not without such a person seeking re-addressal on that from the same regime first.

But emotional hypocrisy is the name of the game here from such people.

You personally on extremely thin ice at this forum, this is your last warning to not derail threads with your collectivist preaching attitude.

If a video has been posted, you either counter the message in that video or you ignore it and move on. What you do not do is bring in the nationality of the poster for topic derailment.

If you do not heed this, you will face the consequences.

 

[xizhimen]

- The asserted wumao collectivist logic

Who is Wumao, is baseless personal smearing allowed in this forum?

 

[xizhimen]

You literally are someone that doesn't understand how someone can read PDF while being banned there.

So yeah it is patently obvious why you do not understand something far more brain-cell intensive....like what a correlation between trade and (base) GDP even means....if the GDP was inflated to begin with.

This is my absolute last warning to you (I will look past your severe intelligence handicap, as nothing can be done about that):

- If someone is from country A and posts on China/Xinjiang, that is NO logical recourse to derail the thread (off-topic) based on your low-intelligent take on Country A

- The asserted wumao collectivist logic that because someone is from another country, that they cannot comment or post on another country that the wumao-mob asserts is doing better in whatever indicator (even running with the assertion for sake of argument) is frankly ridiculous and decrepit.

The second one certainly does not and did not apply to PRC when it obsessed about foreign policy + internal issues of far richer nations.....all based on its (ironically) imported western (german-sourced and soviet-implemented) economic and political model.

Nor did it apply to PRC/Mao itself when it casually mass murdered its own people in the 10's of millions, letting them resort to cannibalism even....while continuing to forcibly-acquire and export grain from the same people.

If PRC as a collective state could assert and blab geopolitically during that era (while it was in such a state), there is even less scope for an individual wumao scope to apply on another poster. Not without such a person seeking re-addressal on that from the same regime first.

But emotional hypocrisy is the name of the game here from such people.

You personally on extremely thin ice at this forum, this is your last warning to not derail threads with your collectivist preaching attitude.

If a video has been posted, you either counter the message in that video or you ignore it and move on. What you do not do is bring in the nationality of the poster for topic derailment.

If you do not heed this, you will face the consequences.

Why are you so upset when I discuss in China's favor, this is what the forum is for. You only allow Indians speak against China but not vice versa, this forum is not yours, everyone should be entitled to voice their own opinions.

 

[xizhimen]

If you have better arguements, present them here and let's discuss, quit your personal attack style and replace it with arguements backed by facts and figures.

 

[Nilgiri]

Who is Wumao, is baseless personal smearing allowed in this forum?

Whether you are or not is not the point....what can be proven? Other than your continued dishonesty and lying ever since you got here?

You blatantly follow/assert hook, line sinker the ideology of such folks....it is plainly obvious to everyone else. So if you want to debate the difference between an elite and elitist in English...and the colloquial conflation in those terms...I would think it is way above your understanding again.

Now stop derailing each thread when another nationality posts something PRC....and making your retort about their country....rather than the topic at hand.

 

[xizhimen]

You blatantly follow/assert hook, line sinker the ideology of such folks....it is plainly obvious to everyone else. So if you want to debate the difference between an elite and elitist in English...and the colloquial conflation in those terms...I would think it is way above your understanding again.

Now stop derailing each thread when another nationality posts something PRC....and making your retort about their country....rather than the topic at hand.

First you slandered me about something I m not, also you accused China of faking GDP, but after I pointed out India was the one faking the number, suddenly I broke some forum rule and got warned, what kind of logic is this? can we just discuss and present each others arguements and evidence?

 

[Nilgiri]

Why are you so upset when I discuss in China's favor, this is what the forum is for.

Derailing like you did (off-topic about the OP nationality, asserting that he or anyone else ought not to post because of some asserted GDP) in your first reply is discussing in china's favour?

If you want to reply you can give something based on the subject w.r.t China....and leave the derailment altogether. It is always "you" this and that rather than the topic at hand when you feel that is some easier route to get at (no matter how badly it reflects on you and your collectivist clique).

Does your own argument hold w.r.t West? You cannot comment or start topics on the West, given China is behind them by far?

 

[Nilgiri]

First you slandered me about something I m not,

Again if you identify with something, that is on you.

"The asserted wumao logic"..... is not me calling you one.

We can leave the audience to decide if you share the tendencies of that group or not....by all you have done in this forum and other one's so far.

If I say the asserted communist logic, does not mean the person I am referring to is communist either.

But one can definitely assert communist logic without being one....or being one. That is proven in different way.

 

[xizhimen]

Derailing like you did (off-topic about the OP nationality, asserting that he or anyone else ought not to post because of some asserted GDP) in your first reply is discussing in china's favour?

If you want to reply you can give something based on the subject w.r.t China....and leave the derailment altogether. It is always "you" this and that rather than the topic at hand when you feel that is some easier route to get at (no matter how badly it reflects on you and your collectivist clique).

Does your own argument hold w.r.t West? You cannot comment or start topics on the West, given China is behind them by far?

I posted more than many evidence here but some guys keep starting the same old discussed threads again and again. To be honest, If I keep posting anti India threads daily, I'll get much worse reponse from Indian posters. I just pointed out Xinjiang is much better than India, that's it, if you don't believe, we can post facts and figures , pictures and videos. this is the way to discuss.

 

[Nilgiri]

I m not, also you accused China of faking GDP, but after I pointed out India was the one faking the number, suddenly I broke some forum rule and got warned, what kind of logic is this? can we just discuss and present each others arguements and evidence?

You will have to get out of the business of lying too. That is another warning I am sending you for the last time.

The warning is given towards the collectivist hypocritical derailment tactic you always use if a poster meets a certain nationality (rather than the topic at hand).

You can dispute with Le Keqiang own words all you want on your own time and effort.

 

[xizhimen]

I posted more than many evidence here but some guys keep starting the same old discussed threads again and again. To be honest, If I keep posting anti India threads daily, I'll get much worse reponse from Indian posters. I just pointed out Xinjiang is much better than India, that's it, if you don't believe, we can post facts and figures , pictures and videos. this is the way to discuss.

Anyone who speaks for China is having "Wumao" logic and people who slander China being truth teller, what kind of logic is this? let's dicuss with facts and figures instead of labeling fellow forum users.

 

[xizhimen]

You will have to get out of the business of lying too. That is another warning I am sending you for the last time.

The warning is given towards the collectivist hypocritical derailment tactic you always use if a poster meets a certain nationality (rather than the topic at hand).

You can dispute with Le Keqiang own words all you want on your own time and effort.

Li didn't say China is faking GDP, and I pointed most countries GDPs are not very accurate including India's, what's wrong with it? why you just won't allow people to argue back in this forum?

 

[Deliorman]

China sanctioned 10 EU Parliament members- One of them is İlhan Küçük from Bulgaria who works hard to make the issue more widely known and talked about in Brussels.

As a fellow Turk from Bulgaria I am glad that he is aware of the issue and does his best to support our Uyghur brothers and sisters.