Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Van Kravchenko]

The original source of the pictures: https://www.antarafoto.com/peristiwa/v1629526504/peluncuran-kri-golok-produksi-dalam-negeri

Will it be armed with chinesse made hardware?

 

[FPXAllen]

Will it be armed with chinesse made hardware?

Although there's still no official statement about it yet, but I think it won't be armed with Chinese weapons especially after our Navy Chief of Staff himself who said that they planned for the ship to be based in Natuna and Ambalat. The most likely candidate for its AShM is either Exocet or RB-15. The latter if the original plan from years ago still applies now.

But in any case, this is still very much a guess.

 

[Lordimperator]

AShM is either Exocet or RB-15

What is the pros using RB 15 instead of exocet?

who said that they planned for the ship to be based in Natuna and Ambalat

Better for doubled the number of the ship

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Although there's still no official statement about it yet, but I think it won't be armed with Chinese weapons especially after our Navy Chief of Staff himself who said that they planned for the ship to be based in Natuna and Ambalat. The most likely candidate for its AShM is either Exocet or RB-15. The latter if the original plan from years ago still applies now.

But in any case, this is still very much a guess.

Is The main role Of KRI GOLOK will be FAC for base deffece ?

If it so, i didnt spot exactly where the provision to put AShM and RCWS.

 

[FPXAllen]

What is the pros using RB 15 instead of exocet?

Well, a larger and heavier warhead (200 kg vs 165 kg) for one. It's also said to have a capability to attack land targets especially in its latest version. Other than these two I guess other specs between them are pretty much similar since they both are still subsonic missiles with comparable range.

 

[FPXAllen]

If it so, i didnt spot exactly where the provision to put AShM and RCWS.

See this boxy structure in the ship's aft section? The one marked with a red circle?

That's the place on both sides of the ship for two or four AShM embedded inside that section. On top of the superstructure just ahead the ship's mast, either a 40 mm or a 30 mm cannon will be installed there - I'm assuming that it will be encased within a special housing.

As for CIWS, there's still room behind the ship between the missile section. If not, it's also possible to just forego the naval cannon installation and use the space for the CIWS instead.

Another interesting thing is that, if I recall correctly, in their old brochure that was shown years ago, there was a CGI render where an anti aircraft missile being launched from the "nose" section. I'm assuming, again, that if this still true, the anti aircraft missile will be short range, in the same class as the Mistral or something like it.

Edit:

Is The main role Of KRI GOLOK will be FAC for base deffece ?

Take this as you will:

"Dengan kecepatan yang tinggi dan daya hancurnya yang besar kapal ini diharapkan akan mampu melaksanakan taktik kapal cepat rudal yaitu hit and run," kata Yudo.

KRI Golok-688, Kapal Cepat Rudal Terbaru Milik TNI AL Halaman all - Kompas.com

TNI AL memiliki alutsista terbaru yakni KRI Golok-688. Kapal ini memiliki kecepatan tinggi dan daya hancurnya yang besar. Halaman all

nasional.kompas.com

 

[Mandala]

See this boxy structure in the ship's aft section? The one marked with a red circle?

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That's the place on both sides of the ship for two or four AShM embedded inside that section. On top of the superstructure just ahead the ship's mast, either a 40 mm or a 30 mm cannon will be installed there - I'm assuming that it will be encased within a special housing.

As for CIWS, there's still room behind the ship between the missile section. If not, it's also possible to just forego the naval cannon installation and use the space for the CIWS instead.

Another interesting thing is that, if I recall correctly, in their old brochure that was shown years ago, there was a CGI render where an anti aircraft missile being launched from the "nose" section. I'm assuming, again, that if this still true, the anti aircraft missile will be short range, in the same class as the Mistral or something like it.

Edit:



Take this as you will:

KRI Golok-688, Kapal Cepat Rudal Terbaru Milik TNI AL Halaman all - Kompas.com

TNI AL memiliki alutsista terbaru yakni KRI Golok-688. Kapal ini memiliki kecepatan tinggi dan daya hancurnya yang besar. Halaman all

nasional.kompas.com

Latest CGI.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1428953452348989440

 

[trishna_amrta]

AH mining our clicks for fun.

Actually, its was always you guys around here whose promoting his tweets rather than the other way around

 

[trishna_amrta]

What is the pros using RB 15 instead of exocet?

It's Sweden

This is one that sales package where you buy a certain product, and you also get a chance for adding optional accessories from the same OEM (usually at a discount)

 

[Lordimperator]

It's Sweden

This is one that sales package where you buy a certain product, and you also get a chance for adding optional accessories from the same OEM (usually at a discount)

Pahe combo.

 

[satria]

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looks nice if using turret like below

 

[Lordimperator]

looks nice if using turret like below

I prefer bofors, looks cool with retractable gun and stealth cupola. Its made by saab too right? (Sekalian hehe).

 

[this is crunch]

Latest CGI.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1428953452348989440

The media statement about this ship as the most modern in the world is obviously misleading, it's too overrated, the most modern in our inventory probably yes, it's depends

For sure we can't compare it to USN Zumwalt Class

 

[GraveDigger388]

The media statement about this ship as the most modern in the world is obviously misleading

Business as usual, then

 

[trishna_amrta]

The media statement about this ship as the most modern in the world is obviously misleading,

 

[FPXAllen]

looks nice if using turret like below

Indeed. In fact, there was a modified "Klewang II" design which features the very same gun and its turret as the one in the last picture - or so, I assume, since I'm not well versed in naval guns technology.

 

[FPXAllen]

Anyway... This got me thinking:

"Dengan kecepatan yang tinggi dan daya hancurnya yang besar kapal ini diharapkan akan mampu melaksanakan taktik kapal cepat rudal yaitu hit and run," kata Yudo.

Surely you need a really fast boat to do that.

I'm not holding my breath for the real performance of KRI Golok to actually match what was once told: 50 knots. But the design of the ship, its displacement as well as its engines and its propulsion systems, all should make it more than capable of reaching a speed in excess of 30 knots.

 

[NEKO]

Btw, so we cancelled the batch ii changbogo?

Berharap u218 hdw/tkms .Anyway, why dont we spam u209 mod1400 like egypt, and then buy a few u214 or u218 for the upper quality. But getting scorpene is nice tho, and if france good enough maybe the could offer us the MCDN export ver.

No , we would have to honored the allready written deal . Albeit with a such heavy reluctance and old ladies grumbling in between .
It's about honour and reputation ... yet it would tarnish both our long nurtured and cerished relationship in the long run ...

Sigh ..

How can we end up with these situation seriously.

Btw Does PAL currently really building a submarine and will be completed this november? Even though we are still contemplating wether or not to continue nagapasa batch 2 just a while ago.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1428915612256903172

Does they have direct access to the sea? Or they are currently borrowing someone else land? Thus the previous contract about repairing obyek wisata and replanting several trees after launching ceremony.

 

[NEKO]

During the ceremony, Admiral Margono said that the Trimaran was the first ship made of composite material which has the advantages of high specific strength, lighter weight, and has excellent fatigue resistance and corrosion resistance. Therefore, this ship can be used as a prototype trimaran ship, for development purpose.

According to a TNI AL statement, KRI Golok (688) has a total length (Loa) of 62.53 meters, a width of 16 meters, a ship height of 18.7 meters and a weight of 53.1 tons (ed. note: PT Lundin mentions a displacement of 245 tons). Maximum speed of 28 knots, cruising speed of 16 knots. The vessel is armed with 30 mm cannon and 12.7 mm gun and is capable of carrying 25 crew members.

PT Lundin Launches New Stealth Trimaran Vessel for Indonesian Navy - Naval News

Indonesian shipbuilder PT Lundin (also known as North Sea Boats) today launched a new Fast Attack Craft Trimaran for the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL). KRI Golok (688) was named during an official ceremony at the shipyard in Banyuwangi (East Java) in presence of the Chief of Staff of the Navy...

www.navalnews.com

Max speed 28 knots that's disappointing.

 

[Captain Wales]

Its made by saab too right?

BAE Systems