As tensions rise with China, Australia is ‘not so safe’, warns former Malaysian PM Mahathir

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As tensions rise with China, Australia is ‘not so safe’, warns former Malaysian PM Mahathir
By Chris Barrett

September 9, 2021

Singapore: Australia is needlessly risking its security with a standoff with China, says former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, who claims Canberra must make the first move to settle tensions with Beijing.

In an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Mahathir also attacked the use of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue – comprising the US, Australia, Japan and India – as a vehicle to try and stand up to China.

He believes it risks provoking Xi Jinping’s regime and that rallying countries together against the Chinese Communist Party is not the way to raise concerns about its behaviour, from its claims to most of the South China Sea to alleged human rights abuses in Xinjiang province.

“It is an aggressive move,” Mahathir said.

“We should have just bilateral relations with countries without any appearance of trying to force our policies on China. Yes, of course, we are unhappy about the treatment of the Uighurs. But for Malaysia, we can’t fight against China. We have to continue to work with them and try to influence them in a small way so that they will treat the Uighurs better.”

Australia’s ties with China remain at an all-time low as Foreign Minister Marise Payne and Defence Minister Peter Dutton embark on a diplomatic tour this week with visits to Jakarta, Seoul, Delhi and Washington DC.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg is foreshadowing a further rising of tension with China, declaring Australia will not compromise on its “core values” even in the midst of damaging economic coercion.

However, Mahathir, who led Malaysia between 1981 and 2003 and from 2018 to 2020, argues Australia is largely responsible for turning its differences with China into a full-blown diplomatic and trade dispute.

“What is happening now is, of course, people regard Australia almost as an extension of America,” said the 96-year-old. “Your policies are seldom different from America. And America is aggressive because it thinks it is safe. But Australia is not so safe.

“This idea that Australia is part of Europe is still there. You don’t think you are an eastern nation but over time you have to think that you are here. Therefore, what policies you follow must take into consideration your geographical position. But when you just reflect the policies of America sometimes, of course, it will not work because you are not as safe and powerful as America.”

The Australian government has been trying to reopen a dialogue with China for months to no avail, with Beijing still incensed by issues it laid out in a list of 14 grievances it released last November.

They include Australia’s call for an independent probe into the origins of COVID-19, the blocking of Huawei from the 5G network in 2018, Australia’s prominence in an international “crusade” on Taiwan, Hong Kong and Xinjiang and the barring of multiple Chinese investment deals on the grounds of national security.

China was further angered by the cancellation in April of Victoria’s Belt and Road Initiative agreement under the Australian government’s new foreign veto laws.

It has retaliated with continuing sanctions against Australian exports including coal, barley and wine while demanding Australia walk back some of its policies on China.

In 2018, Mahathir himself pushed back against $22 billion in contracts Malaysia had signed with China’s Belt and Road Initiative under predecessor Najib Razak, who has since been found guilty of corruption over the country’s 1MDB sovereign wealth fund scandal.

Warning China could secure influence with debt traps, he renegotiated the terms of the East Coast Rail Link, the signature Belt and Road project in Malaysia, to save a third of the cost but says he did so because it was a bad deal not because it was Chinese.

Mahathir believes Australia needs to loosen restrictions on Chinese investment.

“The country which first made the move should also make the move to reduce that tension,” he said. “And for that, you should remove the restrictions you have on Chinese products. Maybe having Huawei coming in to Australia is too dangerous. But you may think of other things.

“And slowly, I think the Chinese will respond by opening up the imports of Australian products. It may be a gradual process, but I think in the meantime, as you reduce the bans and all that you should also talk to the Chinese about human rights, about things you think they have done wrong.”

China will inevitably be high on the agenda in next week’s Australia-United States Ministerial (AUSMIN) talks between Payne, Dutton and their counterparts in President Joe Biden’s administration.

Australia and the US last week celebrated the 70th anniversary of the ANZUS Treaty, with US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin saying the Western military power was committed to a “shared vision for a free and open Indo-Pacific” for decades to come.

The mode of the US exit from Afghanistan, however, has raised questions about its dependability as a security guarantor, particularly in a regional landscape in which China is increasingly assertive.

“Americans think of America first,” Mahathir said. “America is forever trying to help people but when the help is extended it’s in the interest of America, not in the interest of the country concerned.”

 

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A man with long term vision for global peace of stability
 

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Mahatir Mohammed.. Thst rings a bell... Ah... Remember now he signed multiple over sized multi billion infra deals with China... Was booted out of govt.. Naturally the deals were cancelled by next govt since they were not needed...

So parrot singing masters tune...
 

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I do believe China is heading for stagnation. However China isn't a threat to China, it doesn't have the navy to threaten Australia. Japan is more of a threat if you look at the navy capabilities they have.
 

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No... We have a saying here that u shud not start vomiting the moment u ate something...

China have barely managed to do anything worthwhile since ccp took over and already think they own the world... They shud concentrate on defending scs and western / northern borders...

Between i really appreciate their video makers.. They make good propoganda videos.. But think u can go this far only...
 

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I don't mean any disrespect for Malaysia.

But Malaysia backed down in the Ambalat crisis while we Indonesian are significantly inferior militarily in the 2000s. Don't expect much from Malaysia against giants like China.
 

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Probably Chinese are wholly entrenched in Australia.. They have few politicians & academia on their rolls with potential to affect the decision making here & there. Internal sabotage have been CCP, s most potent tool so far but they exposed themselves too soon.

By putting in trade restrictions, I don't think China have managed to do anything. Their are alternate markets available for their goods... On the contrary, they ended up harming their own investments & interests... Big example being recent adani mining investments despite many so called Chinese sponsored green protests..
 

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I don't mean any disrespect for Malaysia.

But Malaysia backed down in the Ambalat crisis while we Indonesian are significantly inferior militarily in the 2000s. Don't expect much from Malaysia against giants like China.

Malaysian have significant Chinese population.. Atleast that's my observation off multiple visits to KL...
 

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Malaysian have significant Chinese population.. Atleast that's my observation off multiple visits to KL...
But they have the Ketuanan Melayu to balance those.

Malays are no.1 race in Malaysia


so this has nothing to do with Chinese. It's just Malaysia seems don't have much appetite to openly confront larger powers. But don't mistake those as silence tho. Malaysia continue to challenger China's CG presence in its water. This is in sharp contrast to the Philippines who outright surrender and its president openly endorsing China's claim.
 

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But they have the Ketuanan Melayu to balance those.

Malays are no.1 race in Malaysia


so this has nothing to do with Chinese. It's just Malaysia seems don't have much appetite to openly confront larger powers. But don't mistake those as silence tho. Malaysia continue to challenger China's CG presence in its water. This is in sharp contrast to the Philippines who outright surrender and its president openly endorsing China's claim.

I said significant population.. IMO, It's the Chinese influence which works in malayasia... Something similiar to India...

Rest its not about appetite to confront China.. They have the capabilities ... Its lack of political will to counter the Chinese... I hope they don't have any aggrement with mahatir, s party... Some thing Similiar to what CCP signed with India oldest party to cooperate... No doubt they never countered China and now when current party came into power, China started feeling uncomfortable...
 

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Let's put it in perspective, China grows over one Australia in GDP every single year and is also Australia's biggest export market by a huge margin. This is the reason why many Australian business people are for good bilateral relationship with China. Business eventually will beat politics.
 

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China have barely managed to do anything worthwhile since ccp took over
Are beating US in 1950, India in 1962, wiping out poverty the first time in the Chinese history, developing a dirt poor nation into the second biggest economy in the world anything in your dictionary? What India achieved after its independence?
 

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By putting in trade restrictions, I don't think China have managed to do anything. Their are alternate markets available for their goods... On the contrary, they ended up harming their own investments & interests... Big example being recent adani mining investments despite many so called Chinese sponsored green protests..
Chinese economy is fine. it's the only major economy which experienced positive growth in the world during the pandemic. not like your India's, becoming less than one fifth of China's since last year.
 

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Between i really appreciate their video makers.. They make good propoganda videos.. But think u can go this far only...
What are the " propaganda videos" you referred?
 

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Between i really appreciate their video makers.. They make good propoganda videos.. But think u can go this far only...

They are generally from the higher quality folks compared to wumaos, which we may or may not have a specimen in this forum.

since ccp took over

The root of the issue is Han elitism/supremacism. It goes further back than the CCP (the CCP just operationalised it in the 20th century in its variant and severe cost of 10's of millions dead on the peasantry).

There was a significant knock to this psyche during WW2.

They were sorely reliant on whitey to defeat Japan and could never extract pound of flesh from Nippon that they sorely wanted given what happened.

They deep down also know what would have happened to their lot if Japan singularly focused on them.

This drives them up the wall and the result is you have things (among other things like the so called leader overreacting like a baby over being compared to winnie the pooh) like the autistic wumao phenomenon... that copy paste spam the same thing again and again and are incapable of any basic higher level debate and analysis.

PRC's (few and rare) worthies tend to not show up (much less frequent) english speaking forums, risking great firewall end-noding.

So such forums inevitably get stuck with the resident riff-raff....who multi-copy paste into whole host of fora to earn some CCP points per post.

Evidence is all there to see.

The best way to handle wumaos in my experience is to talk past them and as far as possible dont quote/reply directly.

In online fora in general, its best to prioritise interaction with those capable of actually giving you something to learn and improve on.
 

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They are generally from the higher quality folks compared to wumaos, which we may or may not have a specimen in this forum.



The root of the issue is Han elitism/supremacism. It goes further back than the CCP (the CCP just operationalised it in the 20th century in its variant and severe cost of 10's of millions dead on the peasantry).

There was a significant knock to this psyche during WW2.

They were sorely reliant on whitey to defeat Japan and could never extract pound of flesh from Nippon that they sorely wanted given what happened.

They deep down also know what would have happened to their lot if Japan singularly focused on them.

This drives them up the wall and the result is you have things (among other things like the so called leader overreacting like a baby over being compared to winnie the pooh) like the autistic wumao phenomenon... that copy paste spam the same thing again and again and are incapable of any basic higher level debate and analysis.

PRC's (few and rare) worthies tend to not show up (much less frequent) english speaking forums, risking great firewall end-noding.

So such forums inevitably get stuck with the resident riff-raff....who multi-copy paste into whole host of fora to earn some CCP points per post.

Evidence is all there to see.

The best way to handle wumaos in my experience is to talk past them and as far as possible dont quote/reply directly.

In online fora in general, its best to prioritise interaction with those capable of actually giving you something to learn and improve on.
You always claim Chinese netizens are Wumao, it shows how little you know about China and everything about China, the western media and Indians cry Wumao when they run out of other words but never be able to pinpoint any single Wumao with evidence and their information. Of course, if every Chinese netizen is a wumao, they don't have to provide any individual one is one, a good logic ,lol..
 

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