India India - Pakistan Relations

[Jackdaws]

They should recognize Taliban first

Can't just recognize a terror regime even if it claims it has changed. If it has indeed changed, it should prove it first.

 

[Lonewolf]

Can't just recognize a terror regime even if it claims it has changed. If it has indeed changed, it should prove it first.

Talibani are the lawn here , china and Russia is player .

Pakistan ??? That's the middle man pimp

 

[VCheng]

Clearly, not everyone is going to recognize a regime of terrorists so easily.

This is going to be a longer process than what Pakistan would like, but then again, what is the alternative?

 

[Lonewolf]

This is going to be a longer process than what Pakistan would like, but then again, what is the alternative?

I doubt after this TTP gaining ground and increasing attack frequency , what percentage of Pakistani public will support Taliban .

But here we go again , public opinion has always been overshadowed by Pakistani army's interest .
Last time it costed 70,000 lives , this time when America is officially out and lost interest , Russia is not so strong , china being too busy in SCS , nobody is going to stop this fiasco .

I foresee a coup attempt , don't you ??

 

[VCheng]

I doubt after this TTP gaining ground and increasing attack frequency , what percentage of Pakistani public will support Taliban .

But here we go again , public opinion has always been overshadowed by Pakistani army's interest .
Last time it costed 70,000 lives , this time when America is officially out and lost interest , Russia is not so strong , china being too busy in SCS , nobody is going to stop this fiasco .

I foresee a coup attempt , don't you ??

Who needs a coup with the present "same page" setup?

 

[Lonewolf]

Who needs a coup with the present "same page" setup?

Maybe by nationalistic Pakistani or liberal Pakistani, communists ???

Corruption is rampant as much I have observed , and lot of restrictions are enforced just to suppress news .

 

[Tonil]

Lmao this is great.. This was done on propose by Pakistan since SAARC is an Indian run security thingy that Pakistan assumed death and by this has officially killed this farce. Everything Indian is joked and not legitimate according to Islamabad which will have it's way by killing this farce

 

[Nilgiri]

This is going to be a longer process than what Pakistan would like, but then again, what is the alternative?

Non recognition and working through non-official capacity only for any matters of mutual interest (this will be AFG driven rather than India driven given the relative scales of population and economy as it relates to who can ignore the other more).

Things like pitting the Taliban against itself even. It will all be done via the non-official route.

SAARC as lame-duck no-teeth grouping as it is, is still an official grouping regardless.

I dont think India will ever recognise the IEA and let Taliban come to it.

It will prefer to let SAARC become even more redundant and work on things like BBIN.


When South Korea has a neighbour it fought an existential war with (in % scales relative to population few outside really understand)...one of its own people in the end....yet has doggedly pursued complete non-recognition of the entity even with that closest cultural connection (and vice versa, being the main reason no peace has actually come into effect after the armstice for coming to 70 years now).

When that exists in the world between far closer populations of people in every which way.....it can be extrapolated to how relations with IEA also proceed in the global domain far more easily given the much lower investiture found within AFG.

 

[Lonewolf]

Lmao this is great.. This was done on propose by Pakistan since SAARC is an Indian run security thingy that Pakistan assumed death and by this has officially killed this farce. Everything Indian is joked and not legitimate according to Islamabad which will have it's way by killing this farce

What did Pakistan achieved by this .

As much I have observed , this sympathy for Taliban has caused a great damage to them , lot of their allies in west now hate them , they are now acting as a sidekick to china , and if the financial crisis persist , chances of losing some amount of autonomy is guaranteed , like losing control over gawadar port (like Colombo ) , or losing infra to Chinese companies .

You should leave fanboy attitude behind to have a neutral view for your country.

Btw nice AVATAR (you know what I mean )

 

[Tonil]

What did Pakistan achieved by this .

As much I have observed , this sympathy for Taliban has caused a great damage to them , lot of their allies in west now hate them , they are now acting as a sidekick to china , and if the financial crisis persist , chances of losing some amount of autonomy is guaranteed , like losing control over gawadar port (like Colombo ) , or losing infra to Chinese companies .

You should leave fanboy attitude behind to have a neutral view for your country.

Btw nice AVATAR (you know what I mean )

A like for you praising my avatar. I don't think Pakistan is losing friends and for good reason that I don't wanna go deep into it right now.

But It was always in Pakistan's intentions to undermine and kill of SAARC it served no purposes according to them and would be glad if they can derail more SAARC meetings in the coming days not to forget this SAARC is an Indian forum just wait and see few other meetings will be cancelled and Pakistan will love to cause chaos there Derailment in SAARC is a welcome news in Pakistan

 

[Lonewolf]

A like for you praising my avatar. I don't think Pakistan is losing friends and for good reason that I don't wanna go deep into it right now.

But It was always in Pakistan's intentions to undermine and kill of SAARC it served no purposes according to them and would be glad if they can derail more SAARC meetings in the coming days not to forget this SAARC is an Indian forum just wait and see few other meetings will be cancelled and Pakistan will love to cause chaos there Derailment in SAARC is a welcome news in Pakistan

Good for you , any comments @VCheng on this .

Imo , Bangladesh is a fast growing nation , Bhutan , Nepal and Maldives are not so significant ,but sri Lanka has a huge port , also it's coming out of it's financial distress .


And if Pakistan continue this type of behavior they maybe removed from it and that will mean strengthening of ties with India in alliance as these countries aren't part of any other alliance as per se.

And in context Pakistan per Capita income is same as 10 yr back ,so you have missed a whole decade of growth , still you think Pakistan is better off without regional allies

 

[Tonil]

Good for you , any comments @VCheng on this .

Imo , Bangladesh is a fast growing nation , Bhutan , Nepal and Maldives are not so significant ,but sri Lanka has a huge port , also it's coming out of it's financial distress .


And if Pakistan continue this type of behavior they maybe removed from it and that will mean strengthening of ties with India in alliance as these countries aren't part of any other alliance as per se.

And in context Pakistan per Capita income is same as 10 yr back ,so you have missed a whole decade of growth , still you think Pakistan is better off without regional allies

Pakistan never valued the Indian SAARC forum or saw it as legitimate you can see the pakistan comments on it says everything they are celebrating the cancellation as win for undermining SAARC

 

[Jackdaws]

This is going to be a longer process than what Pakistan would like, but then again, what is the alternative?

From the infighting highlighted by @AlphaMike - it's more likely the Taliban regime will collapse internally before it gets international recognition.

 

[Jackdaws]

Lmao this is great.. This was done on propose by Pakistan since SAARC is an Indian run security thingy that Pakistan assumed death and by this has officially killed this farce. Everything Indian is joked and not legitimate according to Islamabad which will have it's way by killing this farce

Ha. Since years, BIMSTEC is the preferred platform for South Asian nations which aren't known as state sponsors of terrorism and havens for global terrorists.

What is BIMSTEC & why it has emerged as the preferred grouping of countries in South Asia

India will be a part of the 17th Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation meet on 1 April. The previous meet was held in 2018.

theprint.in

 

[Lonewolf]

Pakistan never valued the Indian SAARC forum or saw it as legitimate you can see the pakistan comments on it says everything they are celebrating the cancellation as win for undermining SAARC

So basically you wanna say that a faction of people who have turned delusional is celebrating and you think it's a good thing . Good luck , your market is basically getting dominated by Chinese players and in addition to that your industry is weak , so a economic colonisation is on the way . You may celebrate it but no sane minded will do so

 

[Lonewolf]

Ha. Since years, BIMSTEC is the preferred platform for South Asian nations which aren't known as state sponsors of terrorism and havens for global terrorists.

What is BIMSTEC & why it has emerged as the preferred grouping of countries in South Asia

India will be a part of the 17th Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation meet on 1 April. The previous meet was held in 2018.

theprint.in

Maldives is missing , they are part of our neighborhood they should be added too in some way

 

[Tonil]

So basically you wanna say that a faction of people who have turned delusional is celebrating and you think it's a good thing . Good luck , your market is basically getting dominated by Chinese players and in addition to that your industry is weak , so a economic colonisation is on the way . You may celebrate it but no sane minded will do so

I disagree on that but we can always agree to disagree but as far as SAARC pakistan will always try to bury it this was predictable.. Lets leave it at that

 

[Jackdaws]

Maldives is missing , they are part of our neighborhood they should be added too in some way

Eventually. Their addition doesn't add much value but sure.

 

[Lonewolf]

Eventually. Their addition doesn't add much value but sure.

Also why don't we see Thailand related news much , not defense related , neither economic related , even though they are in quite good position and improving too

 

[Jackdaws]

Also why don't we see Thailand related news much , not defense related , neither economic related , even though they are in quite good position and improving too

And every Indian goes there. There is even a Bangkok-Benares-Benares sector - it's called Paap-Prayaschit-Paap sector