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TEI - Turbodiesel Aviation Engines'
TEI-PD170
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TEI-PD180ST
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TEI-PD222ST
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Engine ConfigurationStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 Cylinder
Displacement2,1 Liters2,1 Liters2,1 Liters
Fuel Consumption207 g/kWh220 g/kWh220 g/kWh
Air SupplyTwo-Stage Serial TurbochargerSingle-Stage TurbochargerSingle-Stage Turbocharger
Take-off Power (5 minutes)172 HP180 HP222 HP
Continuous Power172 HP170 HP200 HP
High-Altitude Power (@20.000 ft.)170 HP170 HP180 HP
High-Altitude Power (@30.000 ft.)130 HP115 HP115 HP
FuelJP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1
Electrical Power Generation2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW
Dry Weight162 kg158 kg163 kg
 

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TEI - Turbodiesel Aviation Engines'
TEI-PD180ST
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TEI-PD222ST
View attachment 31671
Engine ConfigurationStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 Cylinder
Displacement2,1 Liters2,1 Liters2,1 Liters
Fuel Consumption207 g/kWh220 g/kWh220 g/kWh
Air SupplyTwo-Stage Serial TurbochargerSingle-Stage TurbochargerSingle-Stage Turbocharger
Take-off Power (5 minutes)172 HP180 HP222 HP
Continuous Power172 HP170 HP200 HP
High-Altitude Power (@20.000 ft.)170 HP170 HP180 HP
High-Altitude Power (@30.000 ft.)130 HP115 HP115 HP
FuelJP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1
Electrical Power Generation2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW
Dry Weight162 kg158 kg163 kg
Pd170 looks better than pd180st
 

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It depends it produces more power at take off but its critical altitude is lower. @30k feet it produces 115hp PD-170 produces 130hp. It seems like Akıncı-C will operate at 20000~ feet. I think PD-222 is also very suitable for TB-3.
 

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TEI-PD180ST
View attachment 31670
TEI-PD222ST
View attachment 31671
Engine ConfigurationStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 Cylinder
Displacement2,1 Liters2,1 Liters2,1 Liters
Fuel Consumption207 g/kWh220 g/kWh220 g/kWh
Air SupplyTwo-Stage Serial TurbochargerSingle-Stage TurbochargerSingle-Stage Turbocharger
Take-off Power (5 minutes)172 HP180 HP222 HP
Continuous Power172 HP170 HP200 HP
High-Altitude Power (@20.000 ft.)170 HP170 HP180 HP
High-Altitude Power (@30.000 ft.)130 HP115 HP115 HP
FuelJP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1
Electrical Power Generation2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW
Dry Weight162 kg158 kg163 kg

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These engine blocks still not cast in Turkey? Or is it just one of the older blocks being used for prototyping ?
 

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TEI produced more than 60 TEI-PD170 engines​

prof. Dr. Akşit stated that they continued the mass production of the PD170 in addition to their development work and said, “The engine we produced in total exceeded 60. We delivered a significant part of them to our first main customer, TAI, and we delivered a few to Baykar, some of them for use in Bayraktar TB3 studies and some for use in Akıncı's C version. Also, our same engine is used in Aksungur. The numbers for mass production are increasing, and we are currently negotiating for a few 100 units.” said.

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Turkish firm begins producing UAV engines​


Turkish engine producer Erin Motor introduced its newly developed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) engines at Turkey's largest technology and aviation event TEKNOFEST.

The firm showcased its two types of UAV engines, 6-hp and 11-hp, which can be used in observer drones, especially for vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) UAVs, Ersin Sahin, the firm’s general manager, told Anadolu Agency.

At this year's TEKNOFEST, aviation companies introduced VTOL UAVs, including the country's leading defense firm Baykar, he said.

Previously, TUSAS Engine Industries (TEI) was the only Turkish firm that could produce engines for UAVs, he recalled.

Saying that both engines can be used in UAVs with wingspans of up to five meters (16.4 feet), he noted that as the payloads increase, the 11-hp engine is required, and 6-hp can be used for lighter ones.

He said one engine is a carburetor engine and the other is electronically controlled.

"Electronically controlled engines offer more precise control," he added.



Potential customers

Sahin said the company is targeting both domestic and foreign markets and permission was obtained for exporting the engines.

Baykar tested Erin Motor’s UAV engine, and his firm hopes that it will choose it for its new VTOL UAVs, he said.

"Obviously, (Baykar's Chief Technology Officer) Selcuk Bayraktar and (CEO) Haluk Bayraktar encouraged and directed us to this work," he highlighted.

"We entered this field with the question: ‘Why are you not doing this job?" he added.

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Cost advantage

If domestic companies choose Erin Motor's engines, they will support domestic engineering and contribute to reducing the country’s current account deficit, Sahin said.

He also said the engine offers a cost advantage against its foreign equivalents of up to 35%.

In the defense industry, it is more important not to be dependent on abroad than price advantage, he said, noting that up to 90% of the company’s engine components are locally sourced but the firm is targeting 100%.

"We produce the most critical parts of the engine in Turkey. We can enter mass production immediately upon demand," he said.

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Natural gas-powered engine

The firm also introduced another product, a natural gas-powered single cylinder engine which was designed especially for power generators, Sahin said.

The engine was also designed and produced domestically by the firm's research and development team, he said.

He asserted that there are no domestic equivalent products in Turkey and no similar engines in the world.
 

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TEI - Turbodiesel Aviation Engines'
TEI-PD180ST
View attachment 31670
TEI-PD222ST
View attachment 31671
Engine ConfigurationStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 CylinderStraight 4 Cylinder
Displacement2,1 Liters2,1 Liters2,1 Liters
Fuel Consumption207 g/kWh220 g/kWh220 g/kWh
Air SupplyTwo-Stage Serial TurbochargerSingle-Stage TurbochargerSingle-Stage Turbocharger
Take-off Power (5 minutes)172 HP180 HP222 HP
Continuous Power172 HP170 HP200 HP
High-Altitude Power (@20.000 ft.)170 HP170 HP180 HP
High-Altitude Power (@30.000 ft.)130 HP115 HP115 HP
FuelJP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1JP-8 or Jet-A1
Electrical Power Generation2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW2 x 4,5 kW
Dry Weight162 kg158 kg163 kg

Sorry but video QA is in Turkish
Please have a look and listen careful what he gonna say at video time 1:06 - and few sec later.

"TEI- PD222ST was tested and produce 240+ HP" - info for english
 
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Sorry but video QA is in Turkish
Please have a look and listen careful what he gonna say at video time 1:06 - and few sec later.

"TEI- PD222ST was tested and produce 240+ HP" - info for english
At 3:00 he gives the example of a UAV with EO, weapons and radar taking off from Analodu with this engine. :)

9:40 - To make it lighter, he gives the example that they made the air intake manifold of a 3d printed organic structure, not metal.
 
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At 3:00 he gives the example of a UAV with EO, weapons and radar taking off from Analodu with this engine. :)

9:40 - To make it lighter, he gives the example that they made the air intake manifold of a 3d printed organic structure, not metal.

MILSAR.

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TEI General Manager Mahmut AKŞİT: We want to produce at least 40-50% of the F404-GE-102 Turbofan Engine in Turkey!



 

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This is great news!
M. Aksit, in TEI, wants to produce f404GE102 engine in Turkey with at least 40-50% domestic contribution. He wants a similar understanding of T700–TEI701D where the domestic contribution started at 20% . Now it is over 50%.
This will help with our TFX engine too.
While I understand the benefits of coproducing as it could be used for exports. I'm not so thrilled at the prospect that it will get in the way of our domestic engine production and prevent us from being 100% independent even in export.

Especially not when RTE says the relations with US is going in the wrong direction. Money talks, and may still benefit us, but I am seriously against it as I previously said I want to see the militarized version of TS1400 on the damn helicopters.

Successful T129 with TS1400 would make those coproduction deals much easier.
 

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