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[Umigami]

Amid funding challenges, Indonesia eyes A400M for aerial tanker requirements​

by Ridzwan Rahmat

A Royal Malaysian Air Force A400M aircraft in Langkawi. Indonesia is now considering if the aircraft type is suitable for its aerial tanker and military lift requirements. (Janes/Ridzwan Rahmat)

Indonesia has revisited plans to procure a fleet of Airbus A400M aircraft to enhance its military airlift capabilities, however, it is now in talks to decide if the airframe can also fulfil its air force's in-flight refuelling requirements.

Documents forwarded to Janes reveal that the matter was discussed at a virtual meeting between the Indonesian Ministry of Defence's (MoD's) Directorate General for Defence Potential (DDP) and representatives from Airbus Indonesia on 1 October.

Also present during the meeting were officials from state-owned defence electronics company PT Len, Bandung-based aerospace firm PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), aircraft maintenance company PT GMF AeroAsia, and directors overseeing offset matters at the DDP's office.

As reported by Janes in June 2021, the Indonesian Ministry of Finance (MoF) has granted approval for the country to obtain up to USD700 million in foreign loans to procure two aerial tankers for the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU).

And given outstanding requirements from the TNI-AU for more military airlift platforms, the A400M has been proposed as a suitable aircraft type by Airbus Indonesia given its ability to undertake both roles, Janes was informed by the source that forwarded the meeting documents.

Indonesia's interest in the A400M was first articulated in 2016 by then defence minister Ryamizard Ryacudu. In 2017, the MoF approved budget of up to USD2 billion for a fleet of five aircraft. However, the funds were never allocated in the country's national budget in the subsequent years and the programme has been in limbo since.

Amid funding challenges, Indonesia eyes A400M for aerial tanker requirements

Indonesia has revisited plans to procure a fleet of Airbus A400M aircraft to enhance its military airlift capabilities, however, it is now in talks to decide if the...

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Is new A400m cheaper than second hand converted A330?

 

[Lordimperator]

In 2017, the MoF approved budget of up to USD2 billion for a fleet of five aircraft.

Whatt, we almost by 5 planes back then?

 

[Madokafc]

Whatt, we almost by 5 planes back then?

Better bought C130J , the prices including ILS support only needed a quarter of the approved budget by then

 

[NEKO]

Why MoD interested with A400M (with air tanker capability) and not C130 air tanker?
If in the future we also plan to buy more A400M for transport purpose then fine, but if its only 2 A400M then what we will get is new type of aircraft with just so-so AAR capability.

 

[Lordimperator]

what we will get is new type of aircraft with just so-so AAR capability

Yes, f15, f16, and ifx which planned to be the backbone of Auri, cant use a400. Maybe they wants
to get the cn235 offset

 

[NEKO]

Yes, f15, f16, and ifx which planned to be the backbone of Auri, cant use a400. Maybe they wants
to get the cn235 offset

Gripen, EF, Rafale, F16 (CFT), F18, Flanker series, IFX can refuel using probe.

Our old F16 and F15EX can't.
Although its not official yet the indication is strong with F15EX.
Everything still can change, the least favourite candidate still can win by overtaking at the last corner.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Gripen, EF, Rafale, F16 (CFT), F18, Flanker series, IFX can refuel using probe.

Our old F16 and F15EX can't.
Although its not official yet the indication is strong with F15EX.
Everything still can change, the least favourite candidate still can win by overtaking at the last corner.

"Any A400M can be rapidly reconfigured to become a tactical two-point tanker able to refuel probe-equipped receivers at their preferred speeds and altitudes."

A400M

The A400M "Atlas" is the most advanced, proven and certified airlifter available, combining 21st century state-of-the-art technologies to fulfil the current and upcoming armed forces’ needs. The A400M combines the capability to carry strategic loads with the ability to deliver even into tactical...

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Well, its only depend on how much € did have and what will recieve for an exchange.

 

[Lordimperator]

IFX can refuel using probe.

Thanx thats new for me

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1447903483106058246

 

[BBOn]

We are wary with China and some countries with larger military postur than us, hope Indonesia can nurture diplomat relationship with Israel and including deals in military arms.

Great.. ... .. .. move

 

[BBOn]

See, because you guys keep talking about conflict @Jacop gone and @Madokafc failed to make secret deal for the sake of our defence

@Jacop, tell mossad we want secret agreement and we also want :
1. Iron dome
2. Barak missile
3. Namer
4. Markava
5. Spike
6. Surveillance sistem
7. Most sophisticated radar that israeli have.

How about that???? Deal????

 

[Chestnut]

Is new A400m cheaper than second hand converted A330?

Nope

 

[chiphocks]

See, because you guys keep talking about conflict @Jacop gone and @Madokafc failed to make secret deal for the sake of our defence

@Jacop, tell mossad we want secret agreement and we also want :
1. Iron dome
2. Barak missile
3. Namer
4. Markava
5. Spike
6. Surveillance sistem
7. Most sophisticated radar that israeli have.

How about that???? Deal????

You forgot ToT bro....
and an agreement to build some of those locally

 

[Umigami]

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[Stuka Dive]

Indonesian Search and Rescue agency helicopters Fleet View attachment 33353 View attachment 33354 View attachment 33355 View attachment 33356

Is this in Papua? I've seen many pictures of Papua's mountain range, but never seen before such a majestic landscape like this, so many pillars towering across the mountain range

 

[Indos]

Is this in Papua? I've seen many pictures of Papua's mountain range, but never seen before such a majestic landscape like this, so many pillars towering across the mountain range

More like being added, not real landscape of the scenery

 

[Madokafc]

Is this in Papua? I've seen many pictures of Papua's mountain range, but never seen before such a majestic landscape like this, so many pillars towering across the mountain range

Edit picture to me

 

[Madokafc]

 

[Stuka Dive]

Edit picture to me

err...I see...

 

[Van Kravchenko]

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......
will we pay or will we leaf.
Dedication, dedication
Dragon outnumber us 20 to one.
And the battle begin.

Then the F 15 EX arrive.
......

If i may ask, did someone know where the money for delayed payment come from ? I think it wasnt foreign loan tho.