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Wasn't Russia at one point en route to JOIN NATO? I think the US even used to make use of Russian military bases in the early 2000s to transport personnel to Afghanistan during the invasion.

Hilarious how things turn out.
 
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Bayraktar drones are constantly working in Donbass - JFO commander

2 December 2021

Alexander Pavlyuk called Bayraktar a wonderful tool

With the advent of these drones, the enemy strengthened the electronic warfare and air defense systems, noted Alexander Pavlyuk.

Bayraktar attack drones are constantly working in the area of the Joint Forces operation in the Donbass. However, they do not enter the uncontrolled territory. This was stated by the commander of the JFO, Lieutenant General Alexander Pavlyuk in an interview for Radio Liberty on Thursday, December 2.



"Bayraktar are constantly working, but they work as defined by all our agreements - without entering the territory not under our control. For reconnaissance, monitoring the activities of the enemy. They are trying to counteract Bayraktar, but now all the units that we have in service are successfully performing the tasks ", - said the general.

According to him, thanks to these drones, the Ukrainian military has clearly studied all the enemy's objects, his positions, warehouses and accumulations of equipment.

"An excellent machine that allows us to fully observe the activities of the enemy," Pavlyuk emphasized.

He added that with the advent of Bayraktar, the enemy has strengthened electronic warfare and air defense systems.
 
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Millions for defense. Ukraine received EU assistance

https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/4423195-myllyony-na-oboronu-ukrayna-poluchyla-pomosch-es

The EU has provided Ukraine with 31 million euros to strengthen its defense capabilities. The European Peace Fund has set a number of conditions.

Ukraine will receive another aid from the European Union - this time from the European Peace Fund, which was created quite recently. About what the funds are intended for, what are the conditions and what kind of fund it is, Korrespondent.net tells.

Important news

"Important news from Brussels: the EU Council approved the decision to allocate 31 million euros to strengthen Ukraine's defense capabilities within the framework of the recently created European Peace Fund. We highly appreciate this step, which confirms the strategic relations between Ukraine and the EU," the minister wrote on his Twitter on December 2 Foreign Affairs Dmitry Kuleba.

He clarified that the package will include material and technical assistance for the development and capacity building of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of medicine, engineering capabilities, demining activities, mobility and logistics, as well as cyber security.

The press service of the EU Council noted that this measure "will increase the overall resilience of Ukraine and help to strengthen the potential of the Ukrainian armed forces, including their ability to provide their services to the civilian population in crisis or emergency situations."

The assistance is calculated for three years. It will be provided subject to the observance of the relevant norms of international law, in particular, in the field of human rights and international humanitarian law. "None of the measures provide for the supply of equipment designed for the use of lethal force," the EU Council stressed.


Who else will get help

In addition to Ukraine, funds will be allocated to Georgia, Moldova and Mali (a state in West Africa). In the case of Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, the EU is also striving to increase the capacity and interoperability of local armed forces to participate in military missions and operations under the Common Security and Defense Policy. These measures were taken in response to inquiries sent by the respective countries to the Union's High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.
 

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Wasn't Russia at one point en route to JOIN NATO? I think the US even used to make use of Russian military bases in the early 2000s to transport personnel to Afghanistan during the invasion.

Hilarious how things turn out.
During (drunken) Jelzin era.
 
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Russia planning massive military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops, U.S. intelligence warns​

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An unclassified U.S. intelligence document on Russian military movement. (Obtained by The Washington Post)




RF will attack Ukraine on four fronts - WP

December 4, 2021


Russia is building up troops near the border with Ukraine, according to American intelligence

The Kremlin's plans include the widespread movement of 100 battalion tactical groups numbering about 175,000 people, intelligence officials say.

American intelligence officers have found out that Russia is preparing to attack Ukraine in early 2022 on four fronts. This was reported on Friday, December 3, by The Washington Post, citing a document from the intelligence officers.



According to new data, which includes satellite photographs, Russian troops are concentrating at four points along the border with Ukraine. There are now 50 combat tactical groups deployed there, as well as tanks and artillery, some of which have recently been deployed, the material says.

According to the newspaper, the Kremlin is planning a military offensive against Ukraine early next year "with a scale of forces that is double that which we saw last spring during Russia's surprise exercises near Ukraine's borders."

"The plans include the wide movement of 100 battalion tactical groups of about 175 thousand people, as well as armored vehicles, artillery and equipment," the media said.

As indicated, at the moment the number of Russian military personnel near the Ukrainian-Russian border is about 70 thousand people, however, it is predicted that the contingent will more than double.

The scouts claim that battalion tactical groups of the Russian army are systematically moving to and from the border "to hide intentions and create uncertainty." In addition, it is assumed that military equipment is kept at training facilities so that at the right time it will be possible to quickly launch an attack on Ukraine.

We will remind, on the eve of the head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Alexei Reznikov said that a possible escalation from the Russian Federation could occur at the end of January 2022.
 
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Ukraine will soon receive a new batch of Bayraktar - media

ELENA BURKALO, 3 December 2021



Ankara will give Kiev four times more attack drones than three years ago, Bloomberg claims.

In the near future, Turkey will supply 24 more Bayraktar drone drone to Ukraine. This was announced on Friday, December 3, by Bloomberg.

Citing sources in the Turkish government and management of the Baykar strike drone company, the publication notes that Kiev had previously received "significantly more Bayraktar than official sources reported."

In addition, according to the agency, Turkey has signed an agreement with Ukraine on the construction of space rockets of the Zenit-2 type, which, as indicated, "can help the country in the development of ballistic missiles."

As a reminder, in November 2018, Ukraine signed an agreement on the purchase of six Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles from Turkey in the amount of $ 69 million. For the first time, drones were used in Donbas on October 26 this year.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, during today's telephone conversation with Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, mentioned the use of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles in the JFO zone, calling it "provocative activity" of the Ukrainian army.
 

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Is that why MOD HA says US presence in Dedeagac is meant to protect EU from Russia. Everyone can see that it’s a dual strategic move.
 
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RF intends to seize two-thirds of Ukraine - Bild

December 4, 2021

The German newspaper published intelligence data, according to which the invasion of the Russian military will take place in three stages. It is noted that the corresponding plans are in Putin's desk drawer.

The invasion of Ukraine by Russian troops is planned in three stages. This was reported on Saturday, December 4, by the German edition Bild, citing a NATO source familiar with Western intelligence data.

It is noted that the attack is planned in three stages in early 2022 with the aim of capturing up to two-thirds of the territory of Ukraine, including Kiev.



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Phase 1: South

In the first phase, southern Ukraine will be captured, "to secure supplies to Crimea and also to cut off Ukraine from the sea and therefore from supplies," a security officer told BILD.

Russia plans to use the landing ships, which were airlifted from the Baltic Sea to the region in the spring, "to transport tanks and troops from Crimea to the outskirts of Odessa," said a senior Western intelligence officer.

Another high-ranking military man was even more specific. According to him, Russian plans provide for a landing operation "east of Odessa, between the cities of Fontanka and Koblevo." Russian troops "will advance northeast of the city, then turn left and advance into Transnistria." This attack would have surrounded Odessa.

At the same time, in the Kherson region along the Dnieper River, "special forces airborne operations" will be carried out, which will block bridges across the country's most important river and thus cut off supplies. "From the beginning, there will be only artillery fire on strong Ukrainian positions. Then the Ukrainian troops will be tied up here and will not be able to recapture the bridges behind them."

Likewise, Russian armored units, again with the support of the navy and aviation, will advance westward from the occupied Donbass in eastern Ukraine, then split and advance, on the one hand, into Zaporozhye (the most important military center in southern Ukraine) and further on the other side they will move towards the Crimea.

If this succeeds, the whole of southern Ukraine will be under Russian control, and Putin will build a corridor from Russia to the NATO border with Romania.

Phase 2: Northeast

In parallel with the first phase of the war, Putin's aviation and ballistic missiles will weaken Ukraine's military capabilities across the country.

If the Kremlin considers that the conditions for this have been met, Russian armored units can cross the border in the Luhansk and Kharkiv regions and advance to the large cities of Dnipro and Poltava.

“First of all, they will surround cities and cut off electricity, gas and food supplies. In a few weeks, the Russians can glorify themselves as saviors of civilians, invade capitulating cities and save the Ukrainian population from starvation or death,” one of the officers explains.

Phase 3: Kiev

At the third stage, the Kremlin army will attack Kiev from the north. "Of course, this can happen at the start of a war, if circumstances warrant," a source told BILD.

NATO strategists are not sure whether the Lukashenka regime will participate in the hostilities from Belarus. Although the dictator recently announced this, it has not yet been decided.

If Belarus is ready to be the starting point for Russian or even Belarusian attacks, it will be Russia's plan to encircle and siege Kiev from the northeast and northwest with pincers.

Subsequently, Russian troops will advance "approximately to the Korosten-Uman line in order to cut off supplies from Western Ukraine. Then one could expect the surrender of Kiev, and hence Ukraine, under pressure from the West."

As a result of such a scenario, about which the Kremlin appears to have plans that are now known to Western intelligence services, Russia will occupy about two-thirds of Ukraine's current territory. Another insider said: "If Russia invades, there will still be sanctions. Then there is no point in stopping halfway."
 

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The Turks ruled that region for a thousand years and were there before either the vikings or the slavs, the idea that its Russias back garden because they ruled it for about 200 years is no more then propaganda. If i remember correctly when the Vikings from the north did first get keivan Rus it was the cuman Turks who eventually defeated them and sent them packing further north.

We see this in the media all the time, when Ukraine is referred to as Russias back garden. The Turks ruled the greeks for 3 times as long and its never referred to as a Turkish back garden, the Turks ruled syria and iraq for close to a thousand years and no media calls it Turkeys back garden.
Well..... you wont find any current media praising the achievements of the Turks of the past; especially, the European ones

As one of my political science teachers once said: "the current world powers arent new, but in fact are old powers which have gotten destroyed several times in the past. Now that they rose again, they will do everything in their power to ensure their hegemony remains since if they lost, they will suffer for centuries due to the atrocities they committed while they are rising. A key to that, is using media to manipulate the ppl's perception that the current powers were the rulers from several centuries ago and are still the rulers; thus, they erase the concept of an entity that may oppose them, or did oppose them, or did destroy them from the ppl's minds since the ppl believe that it is normal for ppl who have ruled for hundreds of years to continue ruling the world"


They wanna eliminate the fact of Turkish rule of the
 

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At the end, just like with Crimea, Putin will annex Ukraine and will give the middle finger to the rest of the world. What will the world do in retaliation? Bloody Sanctions, lool
Doubtful he can annex all of Ukraine
 

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RF intends to seize two-thirds of Ukraine - Bild

December 4, 2021

The German newspaper published intelligence data, according to which the invasion of the Russian military will take place in three stages. It is noted that the corresponding plans are in Putin's desk drawer.

The invasion of Ukraine by Russian troops is planned in three stages. This was reported on Saturday, December 4, by the German edition Bild, citing a NATO source familiar with Western intelligence data.

It is noted that the attack is planned in three stages in early 2022 with the aim of capturing up to two-thirds of the territory of Ukraine, including Kiev.



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Phase 1: South

In the first phase, southern Ukraine will be captured, "to secure supplies to Crimea and also to cut off Ukraine from the sea and therefore from supplies," a security officer told BILD.

Russia plans to use the landing ships, which were airlifted from the Baltic Sea to the region in the spring, "to transport tanks and troops from Crimea to the outskirts of Odessa," said a senior Western intelligence officer.

Another high-ranking military man was even more specific. According to him, Russian plans provide for a landing operation "east of Odessa, between the cities of Fontanka and Koblevo." Russian troops "will advance northeast of the city, then turn left and advance into Transnistria." This attack would have surrounded Odessa.

At the same time, in the Kherson region along the Dnieper River, "special forces airborne operations" will be carried out, which will block bridges across the country's most important river and thus cut off supplies. "From the beginning, there will be only artillery fire on strong Ukrainian positions. Then the Ukrainian troops will be tied up here and will not be able to recapture the bridges behind them."

Likewise, Russian armored units, again with the support of the navy and aviation, will advance westward from the occupied Donbass in eastern Ukraine, then split and advance, on the one hand, into Zaporozhye (the most important military center in southern Ukraine) and further on the other side they will move towards the Crimea.

If this succeeds, the whole of southern Ukraine will be under Russian control, and Putin will build a corridor from Russia to the NATO border with Romania.

Phase 2: Northeast

In parallel with the first phase of the war, Putin's aviation and ballistic missiles will weaken Ukraine's military capabilities across the country.

If the Kremlin considers that the conditions for this have been met, Russian armored units can cross the border in the Luhansk and Kharkiv regions and advance to the large cities of Dnipro and Poltava.

“First of all, they will surround cities and cut off electricity, gas and food supplies. In a few weeks, the Russians can glorify themselves as saviors of civilians, invade capitulating cities and save the Ukrainian population from starvation or death,” one of the officers explains.

Phase 3: Kiev

At the third stage, the Kremlin army will attack Kiev from the north. "Of course, this can happen at the start of a war, if circumstances warrant," a source told BILD.

NATO strategists are not sure whether the Lukashenka regime will participate in the hostilities from Belarus. Although the dictator recently announced this, it has not yet been decided.

If Belarus is ready to be the starting point for Russian or even Belarusian attacks, it will be Russia's plan to encircle and siege Kiev from the northeast and northwest with pincers.

Subsequently, Russian troops will advance "approximately to the Korosten-Uman line in order to cut off supplies from Western Ukraine. Then one could expect the surrender of Kiev, and hence Ukraine, under pressure from the West."

As a result of such a scenario, about which the Kremlin appears to have plans that are now known to Western intelligence services, Russia will occupy about two-thirds of Ukraine's current territory. Another insider said: "If Russia invades, there will still be sanctions. Then there is no point in stopping halfway."
Honestly, idk whether this is a propaganda to raise voices against Russia or it is a move by politicians to divert ppl's attention from more crucial matters or it is actually true

However, regardless of the sides that ppl will end up taking regarding to this conflict, if Putin did end up invading Ukraine, then I must say that the Guy has fqing BALLS of STEEL
 
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The Russian Foreign Ministry commented on the data of the American media on the accumulation of Russian troops on the border with Ukraine

The Russian Foreign Ministry, at the request of Kommersant, commented on the reports of the American media about a significant accumulation of Russian troops on the border with Ukraine and the alleged preparation by Moscow for an invasion of the neighboring country. “The Russian armed forces on Russian territory are a legitimate right of a sovereign state,” Maria Zakharova, an official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told Kommersant. , the American press should be concerned about the aggressive actions of not Russia, but the United States. "

According to her, "the States are conducting a special operation to aggravate the situation around Ukraine, shifting responsibility to Russia." “It is based on provocative actions near the Russian borders, accompanied by accusatory rhetoric against Moscow. In principle, nothing new - classic Western tactics. Only the scale of impudence and lies is impressive, ”added Maria Zakharova.
 
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Belarus states that Ukrainian helicopter violated state border


❗️During the exercise 🇺🇦Ukrainian pilots violated the border

The conduct of exercises by Ukraine on the border with the Republic of Belarus provoked the incident. Today, December 4, at about 12 noon, a violation of the airspace of the Republic of Belarus from Ukraine was recorded at the Novaya Rudnya checkpoint of the Mozyr frontier detachment at the Belarusian-Ukrainian border.

The Ukrainian military helicopter Mi-8 at an altitude of about 100 m crossed the state border and flew to a depth of 1 km into the territory of Belarus. The Ukrainian side was informed about this incident.
 
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Fitch does not believe in a military clash between Russia and Ukraine

Fitch is not considering escalating the escalation on the Russian-Ukrainian border into a war. Russia's credit rating has been affirmed at 'BBB'.





Ongoing sanctions risk, and limited structural reform prospects in areas needed to raise Russia's trend growth rate continue to constrain the rating.



The reported build-up of Russian troops along the Ukrainian border underscores geopolitical and sanctions risk. While such a move may be designed to increase international policy leverage, the strategic calculation for an actual invasion remains unclear, and our base case remains this does not escalate into an outright war with Ukraine.



The troop redeployment has further strained relations with the US and EU. The summit in June between Presidents Biden and Putin and cooperation on the cybersecurity and nuclear control agendas had some stabilising impact on US relations, following April's US sanctions. These sanctions, which prohibited US purchase of rouble-denominated primary debt, had a muted impact, partly due to already limited foreign participation in the primary market, and the capacity of Russian banks to absorb government debt.



Fitch considers the risk of additional sanctions is high. However, broad-based sanctions on the energy sector or which prevent Russian banks from transacting in US dollars are not the most likely outcome, and we do not expect the servicing of existing sovereign debt will be prevented
 
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Well either NATO has a strike team ready to be deployed in matter of hours and very much up Russias face or this’ll be another example of how European NATO allies fail again.
 

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Well either NATO has a strike team ready to be deployed in matter of hours and very much up Russias face or this’ll be another example of how European NATO allies fail again.
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What if the US is making the build-up in Dedeağaç as part of an emergency plan of action against Russia...
It would be very easy to sail from Bulgaria to the Black Sea.
 
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Ukraine’s defence minister urges military support from Canada, U.S. and Britain - even if it’s outside NATO​


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Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov, left, speaks during a meeting with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, at the Pentagon.




Canada, the United States and Britain should jointly and swiftly provide military support to Ukraine in its standoff with Russia, Ukraine’s defence minister said in an interview, warning that steps to deter Russian President Vladimir Putin from invading were necessary now because “it will be too late after.”


Oleksii Reznikov said he detected a split within the NATO military alliance over how far to go in supporting Ukraine. Canada, the U.S., and Britain were more willing to challenge Mr. Putin’s aggressive behaviour, he said, while countries like Germany and France were hesitant because they were concerned about maintaining their economic relationships with Russia.


Mr. Reznikov, who was appointed defence minister last month by President Volodymyr Zelensky, called on “the Anglo-Saxon allies” to act outside the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, if necessary, in providing weapons and other support to Ukraine’s military.

He said Ukraine’s land forces were battle-ready, but that the country needed to immediately upgrade its air defence, naval, and electronic warfare capabilities in the face of the threat posed by the massive Russian military force amassed near Ukraine’s borders.
Ukraine, he said, needed a “quick response” from its allies that would help it address a lack of anti-aircraft missiles, modern warplanes and naval craft, as well as electronic jamming equipment. But just as important, he said, would be Canadian, U.S. and British soldiers visibly deployed to positions near the frontline.






“You have a training program with us in Ukraine. I think we can expand it. Instead of having 50 [military] instructors, send 500 instructors,” he said, referring to the 200-soldier Canadian training mission already deployed to the country. Operation Unifier, as it’s known, is headquartered in Yavoriv, in the far west of Ukraine, more than 1,000 kilometres from the Russian border.

Those troops should be deployed to places where Russia can see them, Mr. Reznikov said. “It would be nice if the Canadian instructors … would be deployed in Kharkiv, Mariupol, Kramatorsk, Odessa, and Zminiy Island,” he said, naming locations in eastern and southern Ukraine that could rapidly become frontline positions in the event of a large-scale Russian assault.

“Together with United Kingdom guys, with United States guys, in bilateral platforms, without NATO. Three flags – the flag of Canada, the flag of United States and the flag of U.K. – should be flying around these territories. It would also be a good sign for the Russians – that you are here.”

The military support should be delivered in tandem with new economic sanctions targeting the personal assets of Mr. Putin and his inner circle, Mr. Reznikov said. On Friday, U.S. President Joe Biden said he was putting together a package of unspecified measures that would “make it very, very difficult for Mr. Putin to go ahead and do what people are worried he’s going to do.” Mr. Biden and Mr. Putin are expected to discuss the Ukraine crisis in a Tuesday phone call.

Mr. Reznikov’s public request for Canada, the U.S. and Britain to support Ukraine outside of NATO comes two days after he had a one-on-one meeting with Canada’s Chief of Defense Staff General Wayne Eyre, who visited Kyiv this week. Mr. Reznikov said he also had a call with

 
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