Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[this is crunch]

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aah what a nice bus type air-con

 

[Var Dracon]

Cheaper options would be Norway Skjold ($125 mil) and Swedish Visby ($190 mil).

And how much does our KCR cost?

 

[this is crunch]

And how much does our KCR cost?

well according to this news kcr 5 and 6 costs Rp 1,66 trillion rupiah

PT PAL teken kontrak pengadaan kapal KCR 5 dan 6 milik TNI AL Rp 1,66T

Oleh Kabarbisnis.com

m.kumparan.com

If we calculate the idr to dollar exchange rate to roughly $1 = Rp14.000

so Rp 1,66 trillion will be around $114 million, thats for two ship, and each about $57mln

$57 mln for each batch 3 ship, in which also include system weapon control

i hope thats help you to guestimate the cost of that ship

 

[Van Kravchenko]

They put 20mm from yugo import for newest KCR ?

EVERY DAY, WE FURTHER AWAY FROM LOGISTIC SIMPLICITY

 

[Mandala]

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They put 20mm from yugo import for newest KCR ?

EVERY DAY, WE FURTHER AWAY FROM LOGISTIC SIMPLICITY

Looks like a Makassar Class LPD to me. We can see the gun looks very high up to the cars down below. Afaik the new batch of KCR-60 will be using western CMS, radar and weapons. Cmiiw.

 

[satria]

Looks like a Makassar Class LPD to me. We can see the gun looks very high up to the cars down below. Afaik the new batch of KCR-60 will be using western CMS, radar and weapons. Cmiiw.

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Right ... those yugoimport weapon place on KRI Semarang 594

Yugoimport Naval AD M71/08: Kanon Kaliber 20mm Terbaru di Kapal Perang TNI AL

Selain terus mendapat perkuatan dengan armada kapal perang baru, TNI AL juga diketahui mendapatkan arsenal persenjataan kapal dengan kaliber sedang, khususnya di lini kanon kaliber 20 mm. Dalam sebuah postingan media sosial, sosok kanon yang diketahui dari tipe Naval AD 20mm M71/08 buatan...

www.indomiliter.com

but serbia naval gun will add on KCR 60

Antara lain, SSM Exocet MM40 B3 MBDA France, Auxiliary 20 mm Gun Shipborn E Serbia, Surveillanc E Radar Terma Scanter 4603 Denmark, EO tracking c-fire United Kingdom, Decoy & ESM [FFBNW], Data Link National D L Indonesia, CMS Terma C-FLEX Denmark, dan Main Gun 57 Bofors MK3 Sweden.

https://nasional.kompas.com/read/20...l-60-meter-andalan-tni-al-buatan-pal?page=all.

 

[Gary]

What is with the navy insistance on manned auto cannon instead of remote controlled one ?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

What is with the navy insistance on manned auto cannon instead of remote controlled one ?

Cheaper ?

 

[deadlast]

Right ... those yugoimport weapon place on KRI Semarang 594



but serbia naval gun will add on KCR 60

Yugoimport-SDPR "is" Serbian state-owned company.

 

[Anmdt]

What is with the navy insistance on manned auto cannon instead of remote controlled one ?

- They don't intend to use the ship above sea state 3 or in bad weather conditions.

- They are expecting it to be developed locally and then to patch all manned guns spots with those stabilized turrets.

 

[deadlast]

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They put 20mm from yugo import for newest KCR ?

EVERY DAY, WE FURTHER AWAY FROM LOGISTIC SIMPLICITY

Tbh, this guns are comparably "better" than the other manual 20mm gun in navy inventory though, it at least has some built-in EO fire control system on each gun, and it also being used by quite a lot of ship: KRI Semarang, All of Sampari-class, KRI Bontang, on some Pari-class, on modernized Fatahillah-class, on KRI Sultan Iskandar Muda and also some on Parchim-class.

 

[chiphocks]

Looks like a Makassar Class LPD to me. We can see the gun looks very high up to the cars down below. Afaik the new batch of KCR-60 will be using western CMS, radar and weapons. Cmiiw.

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It this just me or not...
those AK-630 is kinda miss placed...

too many covered / blocked AOA

 

[R4duga]

It this just me or not...
those AK-630 is kinda miss placed...

too many covered / blocked AOA

agreed, should have been better if they are provided with VL missile canister in the back section (like barak 1 or smaller VL based missile) or just a minelayer.

 

[R4duga]

Tbh, this guns are comparably "better" than the other manual 20mm gun in navy inventory though, it at least has some built-in EO fire control system on each gun, and it also being used by quite a lot of ship: KRI Semarang, All of Sampari-class, KRI Bontang, on some Pari-class, on modernized Fatahillah-class, on KRI Sultan Iskandar Muda and also some on Parchim-class.

so its an "Enhanced manually operated gun", kinda weird why yugoimport provide this kind of system an not just developed a fully optional Remote - Manually controlled weapon system.

 

[R4duga]

https://www.facebook.com/Tankboat/posts/1539574989775485

that looks very steep, can the soldiers/marine get back to the ship ? looks very slippery especially with combat boots.

 

[R4duga]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1072185696962923

 

[Initial_D]

Cheaper options would be Norway Skjold ($125 mil) and Swedish Visby ($190 mil).

If you wanted cheaper opv/fac why not consider the taiwanese tuo chiang class, 60m long, 685 tonnage, 16 ashm, 76mm cannon, phalank, 45 knot speed, 41 sailor, 2x3 torpedo launcher, can operate at sea state 7, 2000nm range and only 72m $ price, just modified it to carry only 8 ashm and put merad aa missile

 

[Anmdt]

If you wanted cheaper opv/fac why not consider the taiwanese tuo chiang class, 60m long, 685 tonnage, 16 ashm, 76mm cannon, phalank, 45 knot speed, 41 sailor, 2x3 torpedo launcher, can operate at sea state 7, 2000nm range and only 72m $ price, just modified it to carry only 8 ashm and put merad aa missile

I think that price excludes some of the systems. Might be even excluding the weapon systems and CMS in whole.

 

[Umigami]

New gov in Germany...
How about start lobbying for that sweet u214?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

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