Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

[Gary]

I'll make a thread on terror attack in Pakistan in response to a member here claiming that attack had all but creased in Pakistan.

Stay tuned

 

[Dalit]

I'll make a thread on terror attack in Pakistan in response to a member here claiming that attack had all but creased in Pakistan.

Stay tuned

Not so quick Pakistan hater. Terrorism emenating from Afghanistan. Especially large scale attacks like your Indian friend just mentioned.

Also make a thread on all other attacks taking place in other parts of the world. Pakistan is not an exception when it comes to terror attacks. Even though you like to enjoy and entertain such a henious idea.

 

[Kaptaan]

s TTP going to demolish Pakistan as per Indian wishes?

Never. One of the advantage Pakistan and india have is huge armies with almost limitless supply of young men. This means regions can be smothered with infantry - nothing beats good old infantry amn on foot slogging door to door, house to house, village. Losses are inevitable but large armies can easily absorb these. Between the insurgents and the state time is with the latter as eventually the former are depleted. Then political negotiations can be worked to resolve the issue.

signing a deal with terrorists who have killed somany school children

Yes, USA. Yes, UK.

 

[Kaptaan]

Stay tuned

Nobody said they have ceased. Terrorist attacks are rampant even in USA etc. They have DECREASED significantly. It will take decades for things to relax after the 40 year storms Af-Pak region has suffered. Anybody who has real understanding of Pakistan knows 2012 was probably the high water mark.

 

[crixus]

That was a cowardly attack committed when India, US and NATO were fully present in Afghanistan. Surprise surprise. When this happens today after the withdrawal you know what will happen.

On a different note, are you rejoicing the killing of children just like your countrymen did when the attack happened? I think you are sick Indian.

The facts are :
a) An so called Indian sponsored terrorist group TTP killed many school children
b) Pakistan directly/indirectly accused India
c) Pakistan claimed to capture the prime accused who planned and carried out the attack .
e) The person blamed India for it
f) The same accused with his family ran away from Pakistan( ISI (number 1 agency's custody) with his family
g) Pakistan is doing the signing the peace deals with the same Indian sponsored group ( deals initiated by Pak govt)

Its literally irrelevant , how Indians( including me) reacted to that attack on the school children .I was more sick for the fact that you guys signing the peace deals with same Indian sponsored terrorist organization. The sickness is when the world most famous terrorist found in Pakistan who was living there from many years , and your PM call him martyr

 

[Kaptaan]

Not so quick Pakistan hater

That is the driver behind these posts spamming this thread.

 

[crixus]

Never. One of the advantage Pakistan and india have is huge armies with almost limitless supply of young men. This means regions can be smothered with infantry - nothing beats good old infantry amn on foot slogging door to door, house to house, village. Losses are inevitable but large armies can easily absorb these. Between the insurgents and the state time is with the latter as eventually the former are depleted. Then political negotiations can be worked to resolve the issue.


Yes, USA. Yes, UK.

Pakistanis never called US and UK as Indian sponsored terrorists like they claimed TTP is , and US never signed a deal with Al-Qaida. UK never signed a deal with IRA

 

[Kaptaan]

Indian sponsored terrorists

Even without facts it would be dumb basket who thinks India has not given some sort of support to TTP. This is how states work - they fish and bait in troubled waters in order to further their interests. However non of that changes the fact that Pakistan should and has to find a negotiated peace deal withTTP from position of strength - which it is in now.

US never signed a deal with Al-Qaida

Have you forgotten about the peace deal they signed with Afghan Taliban just recently? Tell me why the 20 year war and $2 trillion dollars was for? As a prop to a Hollywood movie?

HINT: Afghan Taliban were held vicarously liable for the mass scale murder of 5,000 US citizens on 9/11. The scale of that liability can be measured by the 20 years war, $2 trillion and 1,000s of US soldiers lives/injuries.

UK never signed a deal with IRA

Sinn Fein were party to the agreement and they were the political arm, of the Provisional Irish Army or IRA. Which is why IRA operations came to halt and active IRA cells were disbanded. A few diehard IRA operatives refused to follow their political leadership and broke off the form the REAL-IRA which still exists in very depleted form. You are nopt aware of this or are intentionally obfuscating and splitting hairs. Please do read the bold part.

Parties and structure of government​

The agreement was made between the British and Irish governments and eight political parties or groupings from Northern Ireland. Three were representative of unionism: the Ulster Unionist Party which had led unionism in Ulster since the beginning of the 20th century, and two smaller parties associated with Loyalist paramilitaries, the Progressive Unionist Party (linked with the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF)), and Ulster Democratic Party (the political wing of the Ulster Defence Association (UDA)).

Two were broadly labelled nationalist: the Social Democratic and Labour Party, and Sinn Féin, the republican party associated with the Provisional Irish Republican Army.[5][6]

 

[crixus]

Even without facts it would be dumb basket who thinks India has not given some sort of support to TTP. This is how states work - they fish and bait in troubled waters in order to further their interests. However non of that changes the fact that Pakistan should and has to find a negotiated peace deal withTTP from position of strength - which it is in now.


Have you forgotten about the peace deal they signed with Afghan Taliban just recently? Tell me why the 20 year war and $2 trillion dollars was for? As a prop to a Hollywood movie?

HINT: Afghan Taliban were held vicarously liable for the mass scale murder of 5,000 US citizens on 9/11. The scale of that liability can be measured by the 20 years war, $2 trillion and 1,000s of US soldiers lives/injuries.


Sinn Fein were party to the agreement and they were the political arm, of the Provisional Irish Army or IRA. Which is why IRA operations came to halt and active IRA cells were disbanded. A few diehard IRA operatives refused to follow their political leadership and broke off the form the REAL-IRA which still exists in very depleted form. You are nopt aware of this or are intentionally obfuscating and splitting hairs. Please do read the bold part.

Parties and structure of government​

The agreement was made between the British and Irish governments and eight political parties or groupings from Northern Ireland. Three were representative of unionism: the Ulster Unionist Party which had led unionism in Ulster since the beginning of the 20th century, and two smaller parties associated with Loyalist paramilitaries, the Progressive Unionist Party (linked with the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF)), and Ulster Democratic Party (the political wing of the Ulster Defence Association (UDA)).

Two were broadly labelled nationalist: the Social Democratic and Labour Party, and Sinn Féin, the republican party associated with the Provisional Irish Republican Army.[5][6]

Signing a deal with Irish govt ( including other political parties) is same as signing a deal with IRA ?
US sign a deal with Al-Qaida ?

US even entered Pakistan to kill the OBL ( head of Al-Qaida) , who was lavishly living in a mansion there .
To be honest , I never knew Indian intl is so good that they can support the TTP ) a radicalized terrorist organization) , on the basis of India intl's past they are bloddy losers enjoying the govt salary and perks .

 

[Kaptaan]

Signing a deal with Irish govt ( including other political parties) is same as signing a deal with IRA ?

Yes. Did you even bloody read the extract I posted? Sinn Fein was the political arm of the IRA.

Two were broadly labelled nationalist: the Social Democratic and Labour Party, and Sinn Féin, the republican party associated with the Provisional Irish Republican Army.[5][6]

US even entered Pakistan to kill the OBL ( head of Al-Qaida) , who was lavishly living in a mansion there .

Well, South Asia often gets 'entered' . From USA to China walking across the borders to give Indians a thrashing - nothing new there.

 

[crixus]

Yes. Did you even bloody read the extract I posted? Sinn Fein was the political arm of the IRA.

Two were broadly labelled nationalist: the Social Democratic and Labour Party, and Sinn Féin, the republican party associated with the Provisional Irish Republican Army.[5][6]


Well, South Asia often gets 'entered' . From USA to China walking across the borders to give Indians a thrashing - nothing new there.

Awesome , USA entered in a garrison town killed world most most famous terrorist ( a martyr as per Pakkistani PM Imran Khan) , is equivalent to China doing salami slicing and dont worry they got a bloddy nose as a result of that encrochment .
Even if you compare China entring India with US entring Pakistan , then I am not sure what Pakistani did ( except some general made millions and satelled in US like the pizza one) to stop them , then openly came killed him took his body and walked away .

Good for Pakistan that they are signing peace deals with TTP which TTP ignored and started killings again .UK engaged with Irish govt when they signed the agreement and no one backed out like TTP did by throwing eggs on the faces of .....

 

[Gary]

That @AlphaMike geezer is a nobody. Just doing someone's bidding.

Your ban is around the corner.

 

[Gary]

Nobody said they have ceased. Terrorist attacks are rampant even in USA etc. They have DECREASED significantly. It will take decades for things to relax after the 40 year storms Af-Pak region has suffered. Anybody who has real understanding of Pakistan knows 2012 was probably the high water mark.

Dude, you've a ceasefire are in effect for the past couple of months. The fact that the state of Pakistan were willing to sit with the TTP for 'negotiation' says much about the state ability to deal with its domestic issues.

You don't 'negotiate' unless you're winning.

 

[Jackdaws]

LOL ask your consulates that ran off as soon as the planes landed.

Pakistan lost? What are you smoking, Indian? Is that what you repeat everyday to console yourself?

Pakistani, you lost 80,000 lives fighting an entity. That entity now controls Afghanistan. Haha, and this is a victory for Pakistan? Yes, Pakistan lost in Afghanistan. Now if you want to worship those who killed Pakistani children, that's your call.

 

[Jackdaws]

All because of Indian sponsored terrorism in Afghanistan. TTP is in Indian asset.

On the basis of what proof? You are the ones negotiating with them. Releasing them from jail. Is there an iota of proof that India has ever supported the TTP?

 

[Jackdaws]

Yes, USA. Yes, UK.

When?

 

[Gary]

I predicted the disconnect between the Taliban and its cadres at least since August. Seems like its becoming more true by the day.

for the senior Taliban leadership maybe not, but who knows what's inside the young fighters mind especially among the numerous field commanders who could ended demobilized after the establishment of the new govt.

Islamist in general would not just sit after once they finished a campaign in a particular country. the anti soviet Jihad in the 70-80s spurs militancy in the Philippines, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. Now that Taliban has showed that indeed armed struggle are indeed worth it, expect more emboldened islamist. not only in Afghanistan, but in the MENA as a whole tbh if u ask me.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474456037117812750

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473178765383536641

 

[Gary]

For people who kept on insisting that TTP is foreign backed. Here's a picture of its commanders enjoying food in broad daylight in Afghanistan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474457211921391617

and here's them in Afghanistan during the era of Mullah Omar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474855973827317762

a few months ago, the Taliban appointed a director in charge for refugee. Maftoon. He is a TTP and his friends Hafiz Saeed Khan, & Shaidullah Shahid would later be the founding father of ISIS-K

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444385036715925504

SO yeah continue peddling those lies that TTP is Indian?USA/NATO backed. People with senses would see the error.

 

[Dalit]

Your ban is around the corner.

For speaking my mind? LOL It clearly reveals how insecure you are. Walking around with a badge and threatening others with a ban.

 

[Dalit]

On the basis of what proof? You are the ones negotiating with them. Releasing them from jail. Is there an iota of proof that India has ever supported the TTP?

LOL of course India is very noble and never indulges in terror activities against Pakistan. We believe your claims.