TR Politics

[Cenkcnk]

but how can we be sure that current officers are going to follow the same road since they are under heavily akp or feto influence?

 

[Manomed]

Do these refugees speak at least a decent amount of Turkish before getting citizenship ?

No they don't

 

[Manomed]

Thanks to akp we'll have a criminal majority in this country people are not happy with these actions there will be a race war If this continues I'll be the first one to join it.

 

[Manomed]

@guest12 thanks to your akp they are hauling more criminals/rapists into turkey from afghanistan and Syria you support this as well?

 

[guest12]

@guest12 thanks to your akp they are hauling more criminals/rapists into turkey from afghanistan and Syria you support this as well?

My AKP ? Never voted for them.

 

[Manomed]

Also everyone should be ready for more criminals coming in through N. Iraq

 

[comolokko]

politics is a fact based on lies and stealing. i was never a partner in that theft. i have never voted. if there were no politicians, people would be richer and more peaceful.

 

[Barry]

Still absolutely mental they let in so many Arab nationalist Ummtards into the country. These men of fighting age fleeing their nation like cowards, failing to learn the language, failing to integrate, failing to do anything but murder cats and wear skinny jeans in Fatih District.

 

[Lool]

My AKP ? Never voted for them.

Who do you vote for then?

 

[Lool]

I'm voting for Zafer Partisi.

BTW, the Turkish Defence Industry is driven by a strong bureaucratic structure, fueled mainly by former high-ranking military officers. No one political party has a hand in it. It's much bigger than politics, and has been in the works since the embargoes of the 1970s.

Agreed

But, I would also like to state that while the base was there, the AKP did provide the final necessary push for the turkish defence industry to really flourish! Just remember Baykar words when he said: "that the most crucial thing in a defence industry is POLITICAL WILL and that all what Turkey did in the past few decades can all go to ashes instantly if the will vanishes"


When I see how quickly TSK evolved within the past few years that reaching to the level of obtaining indigenous submarines, BVR Missiles, Siper AD, Hurjet and TFX, and drones makes me question why on bloody Earth havent Turkey done all of this early on before the 2000s since the base was there since the 1970s after all. Which again can translate to the absence of political will during the period 1980-2002

 

[TheInsider]

I will vote for Zafer Party as I see the AKP refugee (frankly it is the intentional destruction of Türk Milleti/Turkish Nation and replace it with ummah) policy as an existential threat to the Turkish nation and territorial integrity.
The election will probably be decided in the second round. In the second round, I will vote for anyone other than Erdo. Removing Erdo from the office should be the number 1 priority. After that, we can vote out whoever replaced Erdo. Let just assume Kılıçdaroğlu is elected. In a few years, we can get rid of him. But getting rid of Erdo is really difficult. If he is elected again Turkish nation can't recover from that. There are 1 million Syrians with Turkish citizenship. You can bet that every Syrian will be given citizenship if he wins the election.

 

[Lool]

I will vote for Zafer Party as I see the AKP refugee (frankly it is the intentional destruction of Türk Milleti/Turkish Nation and replace it with ummah) policy as an existential threat to the Turkish nation and territorial integrity.
The election will probably be decided in the second round. In the second round, I will vote for anyone other than Erdo. Removing Erdo from the office should be the number 1 priority. After that, we can vote out whoever replaced Erdo. Let just assume Kılıçdaroğlu is elected. In a few years, we can get rid of him. But getting rid of Erdo is really difficult. If he is elected again Turkish nation can't recover from that. There are 1 million Syrians with Turkish citizenship. You can bet that every Syrian will be given citizenship if he wins the election.

This is me just inquiring but do you really believe that Kilicdaroglu will leave power willingly in the elections post 2023?

Do you seriously believe that the West will just sit like good kids and watch their favourites kilicdaroglu or imamoglu leave power in 2028 or 2030 or whatever the date of the elections post 2023? Do you think they will let go of Turkey whom they werent able to control for the last 10 years? Turkey which is the first line of defence aagainst Russia and top-class cannon fodder (in western eyes). I mean this war highlighted just how important Turkey is for the Western peace and utopia bullshit

Again, just my 2 cents on the issue
Am not saying to vote for the AKP; however, Iam highly skeptical that Kilicdaroglu will leave office once he is elected

and no offense here, but it is kinda crazy on how you think that the CHP will kick refugees out tbh! The refugees are meant to stay..., period!

The only ones who will probably kick refugees are Zafer party; however, I dont think they will win the elections tbh

 

[legionairre]

This is me just inquiring but do you really believe that Kilicdaroglu will leave power willingly in the elections post 2023?

Do you seriously believe that the West will just sit like good kids and watch their favourites kilicdaroglu or imamoglu leave power in 2028 or 2030 or whatever the date of the elections post 2023? Do you think they will let go of Turkey whom they werent able to control for the last 10 years? Turkey which is the first line of defence aagainst Russia and top-class cannon fodder (in western eyes). I mean this war highlighted just how important Turkey is for the Western peace and utopia bullshit

Again, just my 2 cents on the issue
Am not saying to vote for the AKP; however, Iam highly skeptical that Kilicdaroglu will leave office once he is elected

and no offense here, but it is kinda crazy on how you think that the CHP will kick refugees out tbh! The refugees are meant to stay..., period!

The only ones who will probably kick refugees are Zafer party; however, I dont think they will win the elections tbh

There is quite a bit of rage against refugees, however voices are muted (I know people who had received calls and messages warning not to share anti-refugee comments and notes on social media). I do not care who (other than Erdogan) wins the next elections, anti-refugee voices will suddenly become loud and clear, forcing goverment to take action. Contrary to what many foresee today (that refugees are here to stay), this may trigger an exodus, rather a tidal wave, supported by general public. I would not go too far to suggest many of those given citizenship will loose this priviledge, but this scenario is very likely.

 

[Lool]

There is quite a bit of rage against refugees, however voices are muted (I know people who had received calls and messages warning not to share anti-refugee comments and notes on social media). I do not care who (other than Erdogan) wins the next elections, anti-refugee voices will suddenly become loud and clear, forcing goverment to take action. Contrary to what many foresee today (that refugees are here to stay), this may trigger an exodus, rather a tidal wave, supported by general public. I would not go too far to suggest many of those given citizenship will loose this priviledge, but this scenario is very likely.

Doesnt change shit tbh
Dont get me wrong though, I know Erdo is forcing those who are unhappy with refugees to shut up but what makes you think the CHP wont do the same? The moment the CHP wins, all the rotten AKP figures will be replaced by rotten CHP figures and the cycle will continue. The CHP will forcefully shut anti-refugge sentiment because the West wants such refugees to stay in Turkey otherwise they will all move in masses to Europe

So my question still remains, how are you guys so sure that the CHP will kick refugees out even though they havent changed at all from the last decade, are pro-pkk and pro-western leaders? Iam not attaking anyone, Iam seriously intrigued on why ppl believe that Kilicdaroglu will kick the refugess

Kilicdaroglu lately have been unpredictable tbh; he promises LGBT proper rights, yet at the same time is trying to come closer to the religious community. He promises to kick refugees out, yet he announced b4 that he had a "Fruitful" conversation with the Syrian refugees head etc...... At one point, Kilicdaroglu will have to settle on a boat...... which boat do you think he will settle in at the end? Why are you so sure that he will chose kicking the syrian refugee boat out of all the options that may make him the no.1 enemy of the West and bullshit human rights organisation?

 

[legionairre]

Doesnt change shit tbh
Dont get me wrong though, I know Erdo is forcing those who are unhappy with refugees to shut up but what makes you think the CHP wont do the same? The moment the CHP wins, all the rotten AKP figures will be replaced by rotten CHP figures and the cycle will continue. The CHP will forcefully shut anti-refugge sentiment because the West wants such refugees to stay in Turkey otherwise they will all move in masses to Europe

So my question still remains, how are you guys so sure that the CHP will kick refugees out even though they havent changed at all from the last decade, are pro-pkk and pro-western leaders? Iam not attaking anyone, Iam seriously intrigued on why ppl believe that Kilicdaroglu will kick the refugess

Kilicdaroglu lately have been unpredictable tbh; he promises LGBT proper rights, yet at the same time is trying to come closer to the religious community. He promises to kick refugees out, yet he announced b4 that he had a "Fruitful" conversation with the Syrian refugees head etc...... At one point, Kilicdaroglu will have to settle on a boat...... which boat do you think he will settle in at the end? Why are you so sure that he will chose kicking the syrian refugee boat out of all the options that may make him the no.1 enemy of the West and bullshit human rights organisation?

Sounds funny, I know, but I have come to believe that Kilicdaroglu is promoted to make sure the left never comes to power in this country, ever again
Kilicdaroglu will not become a candidate, he knows, better than anyone else, that he will lose big time. I count on a nationalist candidate, supported by CHP to win, and this is likely to change the entire status quo.
I say our collective choices make us who we are! And I am pretty sure our people will make a right decision after a few stumbles, now and then…

 

[TheInsider]

Doesnt change shit tbh
Dont get me wrong though, I know Erdo is forcing those who are unhappy with refugees to shut up but what makes you think the CHP wont do the same? The moment the CHP wins, all the rotten AKP figures will be replaced by rotten CHP figures and the cycle will continue. The CHP will forcefully shut anti-refugge sentiment because the West wants such refugees to stay in Turkey otherwise they will all move in masses to Europe

So my question still remains, how are you guys so sure that the CHP will kick refugees out even though they havent changed at all from the last decade, are pro-pkk and pro-western leaders? Iam not attaking anyone, Iam seriously intrigued on why ppl believe that Kilicdaroglu will kick the refugess

Kilicdaroglu lately have been unpredictable tbh; he promises LGBT proper rights, yet at the same time is trying to come closer to the religious community. He promises to kick refugees out, yet he announced b4 that he had a "Fruitful" conversation with the Syrian refugees head etc...... At one point, Kilicdaroglu will have to settle on a boat...... which boat do you think he will settle in at the end? Why are you so sure that he will chose kicking the syrian refugee boat out of all the options that may make him the no.1 enemy of the West and bullshit human rights organisation?

Who cares what boat he settles. He will be voted out immediately if he is ever elected and, don't worry he can't change shit regarding the defense industry even he wants to change. Kılıçdaroğlu can't cling to power as Erdo does. Nobody has any love for Kılıçdaroğlu but Erdogan became an existential threat with his refugee policy and ummah bullshit. If Kılıçdaroğlu does nothing about the refugees he will not see the next election. Turkish nation above all. No hard feelings against any Syrians but I don't want to share my nation with 20 million Syrians 15 years later.

 

[Lool]

Sounds funny, I know, but I have come to believe that Kilicdaroglu is promoted to make sure the left never comes to power in this country, ever again
Kilicdaroglu will not become a candidate, he knows, better than anyone else, that he will lose big time. I count on a nationalist candidate, supported by CHP to win, and this is likely to change the entire status quo.
I say our collective choices make us who we are! And I am pretty sure our people will make a right decision after a few stumbles, now and then…

Hm.... interesting thought process
So may I ask a question then, what would you do if Kilicdaroglu became the presidential candidate?

 

[Ryder]

Lol either way Turkiye is screwed if you dont get Umit Ozdag or Mansur Yavas in.

Turkish politics at its best lmaooo

The wild card for me is Dogu Perincek

 

[Ryder]

@guest12 thanks to your akp they are hauling more criminals/rapists into turkey from afghanistan and Syria you support this as well?

Turkiye has always been a bridge for refugees.

Many refugees want to go to Europe. What the eu did was offer money to tayyip.

Tayyip ruined his own people for his own greed because that eu money was too sweet.

Turkiye wont be having much of a problem if did not accept the eu money deal do open borders.

You cant keep refugees held up forcefully they want to leave no matter what .

 

[legionairre]

Hm.... interesting thought process
So may I ask a question then, what would you do if Kilicdaroglu became the presidential candidate?

Your guess is good as mine!