Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[You]

I like the Ruskies more than the Western puppet Ukraine

so, you are a big fan of hitler also
!!!!

 

[legionairre]

yes,...... has there been any proof of what they are talking about?

Listen to Zelensky on CNN and other international channels, blaming Russians to be the real Nazis, visa versa…

 

[Huelague]

what are the moods of a simple German man in the street? Is the German society ready to accept the economic difficulties or will you covertly support Russia?

They give a f**** of Ukraines and dont care them. They support Russia because of strong historical and economic relations.

 

[Huelague]

so, you are a big fan of hitler also
!!!!

You think USA is better? Regime changes are a main tool of US foreign policy.

 

[You]

Listen to Zelensky on CNN and other international channels, blaming Russians to be the real Nazis, visa versa…

thanks for the reply
well, I've heard Putin and, like hitler 1939, he is illegally invading a country...and he went into Georgia .before that.....and he talks about ''purification''', '''gnats,''' etc
....he said he wants to ''de-nazify'' = sounds like what the nazis said and did--

 

[Huelague]

Most Germans are against Russia in this war.

No. They are against war. Not Russia.

 

[legionairre]

thanks for the reply
well, I've heard Putin and, like hitler 1939, he is illegally invading a country...and he went into Georgia .before that.....and he talks about ''purification''', '''gnats,''' etc
....he said he wants to ''de-nazify'' = sounds like what the nazis said and did--

Sounds chills down the spine!

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri @Joe Shearer

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505520581751435265

There is a lot of Indian giving more support toward Putin and his action in Ukraine even Goes far to undermine Ukraine struggle for their independence and freedom

I know, in Indonesia we got many Russian supporter too, but to know our government started to alienated the Russian at many level is quite a sign from where our stand lies. But compared to Indian level, just as we know even India government still doing business as usual and renew along with signing more arms contract and contract of energy deals with the Russian even after the invasion date along with India abstain during UN general assembly, India is clearly at Russian side.

Let's get one thing straight, individuals do not speak for countries.

This guy is not even in Indian govt to begin with (and his context bears looking at too if we are to quote him).

I speak and support Ukraine from my individual standpoint, as in the end I am accountable for myself only.

When we go to country-scale, there is too much long history of transaction first....morality way later.

It has been demonstrated to us time and time again (yes involving war, blood and innocent lives due to western hypocrisy...during both colonial era and post-colonial era)....so we will not join some bandwagon of theirs (trying to selectively trumpet something different) now or in the future.

They showed little to no concern for us on these topics back then....remained aloof (or even supporting of the evil perpetrating it)....all in the name of transactional equation first.

As bigger party, they will have to address and make amends for it first.....not us.

We are not one day going to forget who sanctioned us over nuclear testing (that somehow they got to do with no sanctions on each other)....

The gall of the west to feed the Russian war chest for the last 30 years, not address that (by own argument priority), yet come after others is appalling at best.

Even quite directly at moments:

India - Russian oil exports to India surge as Europe shuns cargoes

https://topbizlink.com/russian-oil-exports-to-india-surge-as-europe-shuns-cargoes/ (original story: https://www.ft.com/content/5efc6338-3f01-4015-aedf-53a4a1944ca8 ) Russian oil exports to India surge as Europe shuns cargoes Delhi maintains close trading ties with Moscow despite western...

defencehub.live

France, Germany and Italy sold arms to Russia despite embargo

France, Germany and Italy used a loophole in a ban of exporting arms to Russia to send the Kremlin €296million worth of military equipment that is now being used against Ukraine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Let them sanction each other severely (weapons, energy trade you name it) first....for what they did with far more time and money (with Russia, and employing their own logic they want to impose on others) than any other part of the world did.

Hope you read @Isa Khan reply here too:

Ukraine-Russia War

Apparently, this is a half-ton bomb (!) which the Russian Airforce is unloading over Ukrainian residential areas! This is unbelievable. Previously, the Russians used the FAB-500 over Syria.

defencehub.live

Any further conversation, I will quote this reply in coffee thread and interested parties can continue there, so as to not clog this thread more.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505607649047584770

 

[You]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505607649047584770

what does ''wiped out'' mean?

 

[You]

How the f do they allow such weapons to be abandoned?

When Isis terrorists captured our Leopard 2 tanks the Turkish airforce quickly bombed them so they are not used anymore but the Russians are literally giving weapons away

I cant wait for Turkiye to actually get these as gift from Ukraine its actually going to be good stuff to study. The Russians are exposing their weapons systems to be crap or outdated now Nato is just going to have good time studying and furthering their counter measures in countering Russian weapons.

Russians are exposing themselves even more.

.....a mediocre weapon in trained, motivated hands is better than a great weapon in untrained, unmotivated hands
...efficiency of weapons has a lot to do with the operators
...I remember someone asked an Israeli pilot after they destroyed the Syrians in that air war---they asked something like, what if they had your aircraft and vice versa? he said it's the pilot that counts
...also, as I've stated before, it's the whole system that counts
infantry
air
armor
arty
logistics
communication
all have to work together for maximum weapon efficiency

 

[Nilgiri]

It would be an awkard on the same side with PRC

PRC and India are on the same side w.r.t not recognizing the Armenian episode of 1915 et al as "genocide".

Yet Turkey shares much closer economic and political relationship (and even mutual security relationship) with countries that do (most of the West).

Food for thought (again!) on transaction priority in relationships.

Some here are living in the West (knowing full well its hypocritical indulgences on all matters).... and disparaging India in all manner of unrelated foul ways they will soon get a warning for....some are giving them likes....

Kudos to larger membership that are not resorting to such off-topic foul (forum rule breaking) means.

Again, people are invited to the coffee thread to take any of this conversation further (within forum rules)....if they want to.

 

[Huelague]

They are confused lot, surely. Germany should follow France to build more nuclear powerplant at this points, or bought Algeria oil and gas

They will buy it from Qatar.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505606967150141446

LMAO are we in 1943? Helmets used by russian soldiers

 

[Huelague]

1. irrelevant to the subject
2. the USA had every right to go into Iraq
a Iraq started the war
b. Iraq then violated the cease fire-like hitler
3. Iraq gassed its own people - like hitler
4. Iraq harbored terrorists
etc
...yes, the USA has done bad things before...yes yes
--but 2 wrongs don't make a right---the issue is Putin and Russia illegally invading a country, and they've done it before

Of topic
You are kidding, right?

 

[Nilgiri]

They will buy it from Qatar.

Even if they (for whatever dumb reason) decide not to do a French nuclear model ...i.e simply copy and implement like TGV ---> ICE.

They should have built LNG port in the last 20 years to handle it....as basic hedge.

Buying from Qatar sounds easy on paper....but can Rotterdam handle it on top of what it already handles? How long will the capacity take to increase to handle german requirements too?

Instead they trusted and built up Russia with their trade and investment.

Then schroeder flies over there to talk to putin.....

....and these people give sermon to developing world tonot buy russian energy and products suddenly.

This western colonial era hypocrisy of non-white people being born yesterday has to go.

Longer it stays...the longer everyone is worse off.

 

[Hexciter]

If you go alone in the ATM jungle, the result is inevitable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505607682950111237

 

[TR_123456]

Lets stay on topic!

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505617387218944007

 

[Vergennes]

A rare T80UK captured by Ukrainian troops

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505602032824160264