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[Zafer]

I don't see how unmanned ground vehicles can rise; unlike the UAV and USV types land vehicles are more vulnerable to attacks and can be lost easily. They can have a niche market at best.

 

[Tornadoss]

I don't see how unmanned ground vehicles can rise; unlike the UAV and USV types land vehicles are more vulnerable to attacks and can be lost easily. They can have a niche market at best.

If has enough fire power better than having manned system.

 

[Zafer]

If has enough fire power better than having manned system.

I can only imagine them marching together with foot soldiers or other vehicles that will protect them. They can have firepower but they need self protection too. If they have onboard self protection then they might as well be manned. Time will tell.

 

[Manomed]

If has enough fire power better than having manned system.

Zafer is the person who was saying "Altay is obsolete there is no need for it and TAF should acquire more TB2 instead" Don't try to reason with him.

I've never seen anyone more blind than him.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Altay is nowhere near obsolete. No modern MBT is. But let’s say they will need to be used differently.

 

[Ryder]

Real problem I have is selling TB2s to countries like Iraq or countries with shitty corruption problems.

Those tb2s would easily be stripped for parts.

I have nor problem in selling it to Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan and Poland while countries like Iraq and Nigeria would easily be left to disrepair.

Also Iraq is under Iran's influence selling them any kind of defence material is suicide.

 

[AWP]

I have nor problem in selling it to Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Pakistan and Poland while countries like Iraq and Nigeria would easily be left to disrepair.

if you want to use corruption as an index , then all the countries you stated above are heavily corrupted ( except for poland )

 

[Manomed]

if you want to use corruption as an index , then all the countries you stated above are heavily corrupted ( except for poland )

Arab countries are worse when it comes to corruption We ain't giving our drones to Iranian puppet states

 

[Huelague]

Arab countries are worse when it comes to corruption We ain't giving our drones to Iranian puppet states

Turkey is corrupt, too.

 

[Ryder]

Arab countries are worse when it comes to corruption We ain't giving our drones to Iranian puppet states


Turkey is corrupt, too.

Nobody denies Turkiye is corrupt.

We did sell defence products to Qatar, Uae and Bahrain even Oman. Even if we are at odds with some Gulf Arab countries they are much more stable than Iraq or even Syria.

Iraq especially is dominated by Iran. And corruption there is up the roof same story in Lebanon.

The Levant has no future whatsoever.

 

[I_Love_F16]

@Manomed Do you think the Turkish Armed Forces are still well trained and skilled like before the coup ? Do you think it changed with Erdogan after the coup ?

 

[kenny]

@Manomed Do you think the Turkish Armed Forces are still well trained and skilled like before the coup ? Do you think it changed with Erdogan after the coup ?

55 percent of our army has reached a professional level. Before and after the coup, it was a nice transition in my opinion. Someone who will not see this interprets the event from a political and political point of view.

 

[Yasar_TR]

The thread is “unmanned autonomous programs” thread.
Lets not get off topic. If you need to carry on discussing this please do so in a relevant thread.

 

[Yasar_TR]

TB2 is a simple enough plane that can be copied. It is small. Therefore has a small radar footprint. What makes it so deadly is the fusion of combination of design, shape, weapons, EW capabilities and the software with which it is controlled.
Selling this to any “Tom-Dick-And-Harry” is not the cleverest move. Turkey needs to be more selective when exporting this drone. Export version is a choice that needs to be included. But the important point and the trick is to develop it continuously so that whoever is copying it, is always following you. Never ahead of you.

 

[Ryder]

55 percent of our army has reached a professional level. Before and after the coup, it was a nice transition in my opinion. Someone who will not see this interprets the event from a political and political point of view.

Days of conscripts getting sent to death is now over.

Ill never forget the news where it became daily where 10 soldiers most likely conscripts getting all the time sometimes it was 20 soldiers.

TSK not going professional would mean our armed forces would not be any different to Russia.

TSK going professional has also allowed it use to new technologies in combat.

 

[Ryder]

TB2 is a simple enough plane that can be copied. It is small. Therefore has a small radar footprint. What makes it so deadly is the fusion of combination of design, shape, weapons, EW capabilities and the software with which it is controlled.
Selling this to any “Tom-Dick-And-Harry” is not the cleverest move. Turkey needs to be more selective when exporting this drone. Export version is a choice that needs to be included. But the important point and the trick is to develop it continuously so that whoever is copying it, is always following you. Never ahead of you.

Iraq has no benefit. Why shoudl we sell them drones or even helicopters? We are shooting ourselves in the foot. We are forgetting these Iraqis wont use these tb2s apart from rotting in the hangar. They got all these military gear they cant even keep their country together for decades terrorists have been roaming free to carry out attacks against Turkiye.

Im gonna say no doubt we have good relations with Sunnis and Turkmens in Iraq but the problem is.

They dont rule iraq its the Shias who are backed by Iran that rule.

We can all thank the USA for the invasion which allowed the Shias to take control.

Us Turks did a dumb mistake in not backing Saddam hussein against Iran.

Now we have a shia crescent forming. Only Azerbaijan has escaped being under Iran's influence.

But Iraq is a lost cause. I wont sell them anything apart from small arms. Sell them guns dont sell them anything which in turn benefits Iran.

Same story in Lebanon, Syria and Yemen.

These countries are now fully entrenched with Iran.

 

[Ryder]

Iran is a big time secratarian regime.

Iran even tried to make the Shias and Sunnis all kill each other in Azerbaijan.

Iran ever since Khomeini took over has become a secratarian regime. Khomeini even before he died made it clear he wants Iran to take over Makkah and Madinah.

Not just political interests we are clashing with its religion itself.

Iran wants to export its shitty sectratarian revolution to every Muslim country.

I see no benefit in selling drones to Iraq.

You cant sway Iraq to become apart of Turkiye's interests as Iraq's instituions to its politicians and military all ran by Iran itself.

Selling a few drones is not going to make Iraq quickly drop Iran.

 

[Yasar_TR]

You only sell arms to countries that you border, if they are singing from the same hymn sheet as yours. And they are your staunchest allies. Otherwise you don’t . Full stop.
Those countries that are far a field are another case. Selling arms to these overseas countries opens dialogue and doors for your other institutions to enter the scene.
What their religious beliefs are, Shia or Sunni, doesn’t really matter. It is the religious fanaticism that we need to watch. That is the real danger. Unfortunately in Iraq, the Muqtadah Sadr supporters and their ideology is exactly that. We have one fanatic Mullah regime in our East. We don’t really need another one. So selling TB2 drones to a country like Iraq is not the wisest move. This is among our newest, deadliest and strongest aerial assets. Before selling it we need to think twice.

 

[Lool]

TB2 is a simple enough plane that can be copied. It is small. Therefore has a small radar footprint. What makes it so deadly is the fusion of combination of design, shape, weapons, EW capabilities and the software with which it is controlled.
Selling this to any “Tom-Dick-And-Harry” is not the cleverest move. Turkey needs to be more selective when exporting this drone. Export version is a choice that needs to be included. But the important point and the trick is to develop it continuously so that whoever is copying it, is always following you. Never ahead of you.

Lets not forget that Baykar updates its TB2 software every month to add more combinations and EW capabilities which makes it harder to hack or down

Baykar's TB2 is the prime example of cheapness, effectiveness, ease of use, and hardwork by the companies programmers

Truly a beautiful company

 

[Yasar_TR]

BAE Systems, has been developing an unmanned AFV based on a M113 personnel carrier.

BAE Systems showcases unmanned vehicle built on M113 chassis at EDGE22

BAE Systems has exhibited a Robotic Technology Demonstrator (RTD) built on the lower hull of the M113 armoured fighting vehicle as part of its bid to develop a vehicle...

www.janes.com

Taking this unmanned autonomous idea and merging it with our M113 Hybrid drivetrain development can yield an AFV that can be a true winner for us; Both domestically and for Export too.

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