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[Mustafa27]

Will we finally see the mythical TAI MIUS?

I want to see göksungur more, hopefully its not been abandoned.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Will we finally see the mythical TAI MIUS?

My guess is that we may see a prototype around 2024/2025. Tusaş carries out works at a very intense pace and competes with time to meet the demands in very serious projects so Tusaş considers projects such as TISU and T925 in the second place. We can wait a little longer to see them.

 

[Heartbang]

Selçuk Bayraktar : "There was another ground test just before I came here. It's counting the days to its maiden flight. We are in the final stages of Kızılelma, which will be Turkey's first unmanned fighter aircraft."

cant wait to see Kızılelma's doing BVR in the skies! any news on A2A missile integration to KE? and apparently it has 3 internal hard-points, isnt that too little?

 

[Anmdt]

Selçuk Bayraktar : "There was another ground test just before I came here. It's counting the days to its maiden flight. We are in the final stages of Kızılelma, which will be Turkey's first unmanned fighter aircraft."

They are planning something for 29 October, if everything goes well.

 

[Agha Sher]

They are planning something for 29 October, if everything goes well.

Most likely KE taxiing(?)

 

[Fuzuli NL]

They are planning something for 29 October, if everything goes well.

TB3?

 

[Baris]

I hope TUSAS is also planning something for the 29 October, even just a glimpse would be enough.

 

[MADDOG]

I hope TUSAS is also planning something for the 29 October, even just a glimpse would be enough.

We will see. Don't count on it though. As per my observations, they don't seem that keen on releasing anything at all.

 

[dBSPL]

TAI has many past examples of transferring the experience gained from a certain platform to another new product. Therefore, Aksungur could be prepared very quickly. We observe similar processes in target drone to air-launched kamikaze/decoy drones and also helicopter projects. In this context, I think that the Hürjet project can evolve towards every possible product group or that the experience gained there can be quickly transferred to another field.

I believe that TAI can make another big surprise out of nowhere, next year. I have two big expectations from TAI in the fixed-wing unmanned field. The first is that an institution so experienced in aircraft manufacturing, while spending billions of dollars on the integration of stealth technologies, putting forward an long range unmanned bomber with deep strike capability, and we know that such a roadmap and vision existed in the past. The second is work on pseudo-satellites, very high altitude platform stations, which is again TAI is the main institution capable of producing a product in this range.

 

[I_Love_F16]

@MADDOG Did TAI stopped the production of Anka ? I ask because there is no further orders coming from the state, and for some reason all their recent orders includes the production of the drones for abroad even for small orders ?

 

[Anmdt]

TB3?

Can't tell, but it shouldn't be long until we see this one flying.

Most likely KE taxiing(?)

Might be, but i won't be surprised to see her fly even for a fraction of minute.

 

[MADDOG]

@MADDOG Did TAI stopped the production of Anka ? I ask because there is no further orders coming from the state, and for some reason all their recent orders includes the production of the drones for abroad even for small orders ?

I don't think so, no.

 

[Radko]

@MADDOG Did TAI stopped the production of Anka ? I ask because there is no further orders coming from the state, and for some reason all their recent orders includes the production of the drones for abroad even for small orders ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581686233977171969

I think this answers your questions

 

[Osman]

There are more than 50 anka in tsk and mit inventory

 

[Cabatli_TR]

@MADDOG Did TAI stopped the production of Anka ? I ask because there is no further orders coming from the state, and for some reason all their recent orders includes the production of the drones for abroad even for small orders ?

The number of Ankas whose contact has been signed for Turkiye, is almost 80. Currently 65th Anka-S that production was completed in the end of September. Meanwhile, Kazakhstan has a high demand for Ankas and deliveries are made to Tunisia. Malaysia also signed contract for Anka. There are a few countries that Tusas is negotiating as well.

 

[Rodeo]

The number of Ankas whose contact has been signed for Turkiye, is almost 80. Currently 65th Anka-S that production was completed in the end of September. Meanwhile, Kazakhstan has a high demand for Ankas and deliveries are made to Tunisia. Malaysia also signed contract for Anka. There are a few countries that Tusas is negotiating as well.

I wonder how many KIZILELMAs will TAF and TNF will end up ordering? In my mind, the number is between 150-200 but I got a feeling I'm being too generous But who knows. If the platform lives up to the expectations we may see an airforce whose missions could be executed completely by drones. If that were the case, the number I gave wouldn't be so far fetched, imho.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

A total of 70 - 100 for both forces should be more than enough.

 

[UkroTurk]

Since KızılElma is considered as Stealth, would it be wise designing Manned Version of KızılElma?

I would prefer Manned KızılElma rather than Hürjet because Kızılelma has lower RCS. Also Ukrainian engines relatively cheaper and easy to copy.

What would you say about manned Kızılelma style compact stealth fighters?

I Really wonder if RCS of Kızılelma is nearly as same as F-35.

İmagine 4or 6 a2a missiles in the stealth and manned fighters.

imagine TurAF have 100 compact manned stealth fighters with Turkish AESA radars and BVR missiles!!

İn case of Electronic Attack, how could you manage a fighter from 500km ?

How could an unmanned fighter defeat a fighter pilot?

I don't say " unmanned Kızılelma is inefficient" but some of them could be manned.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I wonder whether Baykar is considering a manned version of KE.
I think twin engine KE would be a good candidate.

 

[Afif]

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Since KızılElma is considered as Stealth, would it be wise designing Manned Version of KızılElma.

I would prefer Manned KızılElma rather than Hürjet because Kızılelma has lower RCS. Also Ukrainian engines relatively cheaper and easy to copy.

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What would you say about manned Kızılelma style compact stealth fighters?




I Really wonder if RCS of Kızılelma is nearly as same as F-35.

İmagine 4or 6 a2a missiles in the stealth and manned fighters.

imagine TurAF have 100 compact manned stealth fighters with Turkish AESA radars and BVR missiles!!

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İn case of Electronic Attack, how could you manage a fighter from 500km ?

How could an unmanned fighter defeat a fighter pilot?

I don't say " unmanned Kızılelma is inefficient" but some of them could be manned.

I like to call MIUS an 'outstanding air superiority fighter drone' with air to ground capability.
But I don't think it is possible to make it a manned aircaft with the existing design. It have to be a completely new design!
And About the RCS of KE here is an estimation

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1506932248859267074