Indonesia Defence Fair Indo Defence Expo 2022

[trishna_amrta]

The deal signed with Indonesia contains

• Khan Precision Guided Ballistic Missile
• Layered Air Defence Missiles Medium Range (Hisar)
• Layered Air defence Missile Long Range (Siper block ?)
• Negotiation for Close range air defence will also be made

Milli füze Khan'ın ilk ihracatı Endonezya'ya yapılacak

ROKETSAN, Uzun Menzilli Topçu Füzesi Khan'ın ilk ihracatını Endonezya'ya yapacak. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

I’m unfamiliar with any of those platforms. Is there any promotional video for those platforms?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

I’m unfamiliar with any of those platforms. Is there any promotional video for those platforms?

 

[Gary]

Goodluck,Franco Aster with Turkish made CMS. Why not navalized hisar?

There's the G-40 quad pack naval SAM

 

[trishna_amrta]

This doesn't make sense in many ways, but anyway. At least design a proper FAC or OPV - Corvette before a heavy frigate, can't they?

How are they determining VLS length before acquiring greenlight from the OEM?
How OEM can give a greenlight without knowing the radar suite?

You are overthinking it It's just Indonesia way of saying "We don't have the slightest clue of what were are doing, so we're going back to the basic / original"

 

[Lordimperator]

There's the G-40 quad pack naval SAM

LRSAM?

 

[RadenSudirman]

LRSAM?

Sea Ceptor/ CAMM

 

[trishna_amrta]

Far from ugly imo, in fact, it is pretty sleek. 'Ugly' in my opinion is probably closer to the kind of Arleigh Burke with its old-styled AEGIS antennas.

If you called the Burke class ugly, what do you call the Tico class with their top-heavy superstructure? But they pack a serious amount of Freedom despite their look.

 

[Gary]

LRSAM?

Medium actually , comparable to Aster 15. I don't know if the Turkish industry had yet developed a long range naval SAM.

But I suppose they're working on one, consider the TF-2000 will be primarily AAW destroyer.

Maybe @Cabatli_TR can help with more insight.

 

[Anmdt]

There's the G-40 quad pack naval SAM

G40 (40km range, 40k feet altitude) is unrealized solution by Tubitak SAGE based on Gökdoğan BVR AA missile (Similar to ESSM single pulse), they also have a concept of G60 (60km & 60k feet) both unrealized as of now.

Both Hisar - RF and Hisar - U, the latter is now refined and called "Siper - Block 0" will be navalized (in fact both readily navalized labeled Hisar Naval) and quad-packable, has dual pulse. Turkish Navy is opting for these as of now. Hisar RF offers ~50 km range, Siper Block-0 aims 100 km range. From technical point of view, Siper Block-0 is equilavent of Hisar-RF with an added booster.

Siper - Block 1 is the real long range SAM with 150 km range and no additional booster, the one planned for TF-2000 ever since, along side with quadpackable Hisar - Naval and Siper - Block 0 recently.

Both can be integrated into VLS via quadpacking, or can be installed via individual cells similar to MICA - Albatros NG. Tubitak SAGE also claims G40-60 can be cold launched like CAMM (they have demonstrated a cold launch system earlier), while Roketsan does not offer that for Hisar RF or Siper Block-0.

Siper - Block 0 will be operational next year. Hisar - Naval expected on I-Class frigate next year as well and won't be surprised to see Siper - Block 0 on the vessel as well.

 

[Gary]

G40 (40km range, 40k feet altitude) is unrealized solution by Tubitak SAGE based on Gökdoğan BVR AA missile (Similar to ESSM single pulse), they also have a concept of G60 (60km & 60k feet) both unrealized as of now.

Both Hisar - RF and Hisar - U, the latter is now refined and called "Siper Block-0" will be navalized (in fact both readily navalized labeled Hisar Naval) and quad-packable, has dual pulse. Turkish Navy is opting for these as of now.

Both can be integrated into VLS via quadpacking, or can be installed via individual cells similar to MICA - Albatros NG. Tubitak SAGE also claims G40-60 can be cold launched, while Roketsan does not offer that for Hisar RF or Siper Block-0.

This could be another solution if the French refuse to integrate Havelsan CMS with their missile. Iirc France and Turkiye are not in the best of relationship right now.

The quad pack-able is a plus consider that (from the look of it) the two AH140 are intended primarily an AAW fleet defense frigate.

 

[Anmdt]

This could be another solution if the French refuse to integrate Havelsan CMS with their missile. Iirc France and Turkiye are not in the best of relationship right now.

They willingly agreed for MICA-NG on Ukranian corvette and Turkmenistan's C92 corvette (the latter may not run on Advent but Aselsan's CMS, but who knows) . But Aster-30 may require additional data link antennas, illumination and new set of integration on the CMS etc so that could be a trouble.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Indonesia placed order for KNG-C5 infantry rifle.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588156819930636290

 

[Lordimperator]

if the French refuse to integrate Havelsan CMS with their missile

If the cms from Havelsan , will they used CAFRAD for the AH140id ?

 

[Gary]

If the cms from Havelsan , will they used CAFRAD for the AH140id ?

Looking from the mockup? No

My inner feeling sez the sensors will still be Thales supplied.

 

[Madokafc]

They willingly agreed for MICA-NG on Ukranian corvette and Turkmenistan's C92 corvette (the latter may not run on Advent but Aselsan's CMS, but who knows) . But Aster-30 may require additional data link antennas, illumination and new set of integration on the CMS etc so that could be a trouble.

The program for armament including VLS is still on large, while the ship itself is yet to be commenced. Everything can be happened, including use Turkey Made system or CAMM ER

 

[Madokafc]

This year indo Defense

 

[RadenSudirman]

If you called the Burke class ugly, what do you call the Tico class with their top-heavy superstructure? But they pack a serious amount of Freedom despite their look.

Both are uglier than 21st-century designs, but I slightly prefer Ticonderoga because it has a more slender body than the bulky burke, and slender body is really my type
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[Madokafc]

Only MoU signing for license production of Patriot II APC with Czech, this also Including repair and overhaul TATRA product

Indo Defence Aerospace Marine on Instagram: "(03/11) Penandatanganan MoU antara Republik Korp dengan Excalibur Army dab Tatra Defence Vehicle yang dihadiri oleh Wakil Menteri Pertahanan RI Bapak M Herindra @herindra87 di Indo Defence, Indo Aerospace,

239 likes, 0 comments - indo_defence on November 2, 2022: "(03/11) Penandatanganan MoU antara Republik Korp dengan Excalibur Army dab Tatra Defence Vehicle yang dihadiri oleh Wakil Menteri Pertaha...".

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[Madokafc]

Stand TNI AU, including sim for F16

TNI AU on Instagram: "🌏 Pada hari pertama event Indo Defence 2022 Expo & Forum, Rabu (2/11/2022), booth TNI AU menarik banyak pengunjung antara lain beberapa Atase Pertahanan negara sahabat, para pejabat kementerian, pejabat TNI, serta masyarakat dan

5,085 likes, 18 comments - militer.udara on November 3, 2022: "🌏 Pada hari pertama event Indo Defence 2022 Expo & Forum, Rabu (2/11/2022), booth TNI AU menarik banyak pengunjung antara lain beberap...".

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[Madokafc]

Komitmen Perkuat Industri Pertahanan, Presiden Jokowi dan Menhan Prabowo Saksikan Penandatanganan Kontrak Kemhan dengan BUMN dan Swasta Lokal​

Rabu, 2 November 2022

Jakarta – Presiden RI Joko Widodo dan Menteri Pertahanan RI Prabowo Subianto menyaksikan penandatanganan kontrak antara Kementerian Pertahanan dan industri pertahanan dalam negeri, baik Badan Usaha Milik Negara (BUMN) dan swasta.

Penandatanganan ini dilakukan dalam rangkaian kunjungan Presiden Jokowi ke pameran internasional industri pertahanan Indo Defence 2022 Expo and Forum di JIExpo Kemayoran, Rabu (2/11).

“Produk-produk yang kita miliki sekarang harus dikembangkan sebaik mungkin,” kata Presiden Jokowi.

Secara garis besar, penandatanganan kontrak terbagi menjadi empat.

Pertama, kontrak peralatan pertahanan untuk tiga matra, termasuk di antaranya sepeda motor listrik produksi holding BUMN pertahanan DEFEND.ID sebanyak 6.000 unit, dan Jeep produksi PT Pindad Persero sebanyak 3.000 unit.

Kedua, penandatanganan pengadaan alat kesehatan dan pembangunan 27 rumah sakit TNI AD, TNI AL, dan TNI AU yang tersebar di seluruh Indonesia yang melibatkan enam BUMN dan 10 perusahaan swasta.

Ketiga, penandatanganan kesepakatan Kandungan Lokal dan Offset (KLO) yang mewakili nilai manfaat yang diperoleh industri dalam negeri dari 20 kontrak pengadaan alat peralatan pertahanan dari luar negeri sepanjang 2019-2022 dengan total nilai KLO sebesar Rp 67,5 triliun.

Keempat, penandatanganan kesepakatan kerja sama pengembangan bahan baku Propelan oleh dua BUMN sebagai komitmen Kemhan untuk mengembangkan industri dalam negeri, khususnya industri hulu guna mengurangi ketergantungan impor bahan baku dari luar negeri.

Menhan Prabowo mengatakan rangkaian penandatanganan tersebut adalah wujud nyata komitmen Kemhan untuk dapat mewujudkan industri pertahanan lokal yang maju, kuat, mandiri, dan berdaya saing sesuai arahan Presiden Jokowi agar setiap belanja pertahanan dapat dijadikan sebagai investasi pertahanan untuk pemulihan dan pertumbuhan ekonomi nasional.

“Presiden berharap agar teknologi pertahanan berkembang dengan pesat dan kita harus segera ikuti dan harus berjuang keras,” kata Menhan Prabowo. (Biro Humas Setjen Kemhan)

Kementerian Pertahanan Republik Indonesia

www.kemhan.go.id

There is offset around 67,5 trilliun rupiah from various foreign deal from 2019-2022, means around 4,5 billion US Dollar.

There is also contract order for 6000 electric bikes and 3,000 Jeep vehicles with Defend ID