Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Cromwell]

Interesting, never heard abt this before.

The Banda Aceh LPD sub-class is the direct successor of this project I think.

Well i just found out, never know before we have such a plan. You mean submarine tender vessel LPD from PT PAL chart

 

[Lordimperator]

The Banda Aceh LPD sub-class is the direct successor of this project I think.

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From IDR Twitter account

Wonder who will be picked up for PT PAL partner in order to build LPH in the future.

 

[Lordimperator]

Well i just found out, never know before we have such a plan. You mean submarine tender vessel LPD from PT PAL chart

This one ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589966463573819392

 

[Cromwell]

Wonder who will be picked up for PT PAL partner in order to build LPH in the future.

Fincantierri, Naval Group or else. Idk but someone did market Fincantierri design to us and make a study about it

 

[Lordimperator]

Fincantierri

I hope it would be Fincantieri, atleast they known to be INS Vikrant assitants.

 

[FoodSoldier]

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From IDR Twitter account

This one?

The ship will be about 143 meters long, 21.5 meters wide and it will be able to accommodate about 550 persons on board, equipped with two vehicle ramps and an internal floodable dock, capable of accommodating a ready-to-go LCM (Landing Craft Mechanized) that can also be stored on garage deck, and can be deployed using a system of davits. Furthermore, the flight deck is sized for hosting NH90 helicopter.

Another unique feature of this LPD is the fact it is fitted with two 8-cell VLS Sylver A50 for medium-range surface-to-air missile system which MBDA has indicated as the Aster 30 Block 1 munitions as part of the SAAM-ESD air-defence system. Although Fincantieri hasn’t released information or commented the AAW capabilities of the LPD, the combination of the MBDA SAAM-ESD with Aster 30 Block 1 missile system, the Leonardo Kronos AESA multifunction radar and the early-detection information from the Kronos Power Shield, all together can provide tactical ballistic missiles defense as similarly offered by the ground-based SAMP/T but with enhanced capabilities, Naval News understood.

Fincantieri Lays Keel of Qatar's Air Defense LPD - Naval News

The keel laying of the amphibious vessel (LPD – Landing Platform Dock) ordered to Fincantieri by the Qatari Ministry of Defence within the national naval acquisition program, took place at the Palermo shipyard.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Gary]

This one?

The ship will be about 143 meters long, 21.5 meters wide and it will be able to accommodate about 550 persons on board, equipped with two vehicle ramps and an internal floodable dock, capable of accommodating a ready-to-go LCM (Landing Craft Mechanized) that can also be stored on garage deck, and can be deployed using a system of davits. Furthermore, the flight deck is sized for hosting NH90 helicopter.

Another unique feature of this LPD is the fact it is fitted with two 8-cell VLS Sylver A50 for medium-range surface-to-air missile system which MBDA has indicated as the Aster 30 Block 1 munitions as part of the SAAM-ESD air-defence system. Although Fincantieri hasn’t released information or commented the AAW capabilities of the LPD, the combination of the MBDA SAAM-ESD with Aster 30 Block 1 missile system, the Leonardo Kronos AESA multifunction radar and the early-detection information from the Kronos Power Shield, all together can provide tactical ballistic missiles defense as similarly offered by the ground-based SAMP/T but with enhanced capabilities, Naval News understood.

Fincantieri Lays Keel of Qatar's Air Defense LPD - Naval News

The keel laying of the amphibious vessel (LPD – Landing Platform Dock) ordered to Fincantieri by the Qatari Ministry of Defence within the national naval acquisition program, took place at the Palermo shipyard.

www.navalnews.com

That ship is from the 80s

 

[Gary]

Well i just found out, never know before we have such a plan. You mean submarine tender vessel LPD from PT PAL chart

No, your pic shows a proposal from the 1980s on an heli carrier/landing ship hybrid. The Banda Aceh (for me) looks like a natural successor to that design, with emphasis on more aviation deck and landing capabilities. Although clearly Banda aceh/ Banjarmasin clearly lack aircraft hangar in the hull.

 

[roman11]

any hints for AH140 specs?

 

[Umigami]

any hints for AH140 specs?

The closest thing to a hint was that mock up PT. PAL showed on IndoDefense 2022.

 

[Cromwell]

any hints for AH140 specs?

We are going to adapt Babcock design and their advice which is 140m not PT PAL Frankenstein 143m so most likely we will follow this recipe with a slight add on weaponries depend on what suits us but still under Babcock recipe

 

[Umigami]

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We are going to adapt Babcock design and their advice which is 140m not PT PAL Frankenstein 143m so most likely we will follow this recipe with a slight add on weaponries depend on what suits us but still under Babcock recipe

And no brahmos please

 

[Cromwell]

And no brahmos please

I pray the same.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

I pray the same.

Tho only 32 VLS at best practice.
Dunno if they will push to 64 or so on

 

[Lordimperator]

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We are going to adapt Babcock design and their advice which is 140m not PT PAL Frankenstein 143m so most likely we will follow this recipe with a slight add on weaponries depend on what suits us but still under Babcock recipe

Why did they limit the ssm with 8 canister, while the Poland has 16 launcher

 

[Umigami]

Why did they limit the ssm with 8 canister, while the Poland has 16 launcher

That isn't a big problem for me. I mean, When was the last time you heard Ship kill another ship with surface to surface missile?
I Never heard of it.

Fighter jets with AShM have much bigger chance.

 

[NEKO]

That isn't a big problem for me. I mean, When was the last time you heard Ship kill another ship with surface to surface missile?
I Never heard of it.

Egyptian Osa class sunk by Israel using Gabriel missile.
Syrian Komar class sunk by Israel using Gabriel missile.
Syrian T-43 class minesweeper sunk by Israel Gabriel missile.
INS Eilat sunk by Egyptian using Styx missile.
PNS Khaibar, PNS Muhafiz sunk by Indian using Styx missile.
Iranian FAC sunk by Iraq, using SS-N-2 missile.
Etc.

 

[Anmdt]

That isn't a big problem for me. I mean, When was the last time you heard Ship kill another ship with surface to surface missile?
I Never heard of it.

Moskva.. does it matter if launched from land or ship?

 

[NEKO]

Moskva.. does it matter if launched from land or ship?

Russian version: its caused by onboard fire.

 

[Mandala]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1590182391754420224

^^ According to this tweet will Heroes Day (Hari Pahlawan) November 10th will be the moment for the first steel cutting of the Merah Putih frigate? The question is will it be 140 m or 143 m? Lets wait and see.

Anyway curious about this new 143 m brochure. Looks different from the first one from Philmarine (the bow looks shorter).