Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Lordimperator]

Old news though in may 2022, Fincantieri already paid a visit to Indonesian PT PAL the visit Led by company project director/program manager of Fincantieri spa of Indonesia program, Fransesco Maione.

If they able to do it, it would be Italian Firm comeback after losing Kornas Program to Damen years ago.

 

[Madokafc]

Process to upgrade BMP 3f

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601056406022410240

They still try to put VLS type AShM

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601056406022410240

They still try to put VLS type AShM

How many VLS? For SSM and SAM?

 

[Umigami]

How many VLS? For SSM and SAM?

Wait for clearer scan of that pamphlet

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601056406022410240

They still try to put VLS type AShM

This and the one on steel cutting ceremony poster looks a bit different.
Most visible ones are the radars, new ESM antenna (or comms antenna) raised TACAN antenna (the earlier one had a shorter one).
Also the second 76 mm behind the forward position seems not to be a Bofors or 76mm anymore but a CIWS.

 

[Umigami]

This and the one on steel cutting ceremony poster looks a bit different.
Most visible ones are the radars, new ESM antenna (or comms antenna) raised TACAN antenna (the earlier one had a shorter one).
Also the second 76 mm behind the forward position seems not to be a Bofors or 76mm anymore but a CIWS.

I take the one on the pamphlet as more credible though. It's much more detailed and not lazy a*s 3D rendering like on the poster.

 

[rai456]

Good video on anti-ship missiles.

Smart stealth missiles like the LRASM or Naval Strike Missile seem like the best options for anti-ship missiles going forward.
Russian hyper-sonic cruise missiles like the 3M22 Zircon are impressive but their large size and weight means that a surface ship or aircraft would only be able to carry a small number of them.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601242670470696960

SM 400?
Or Hensoldt TRS 4D

 

[rai456]

Good video on anti-ship missiles.

Smart stealth missiles like the LRASM or Naval Strike Missile seem like the best options for anti-ship missiles going forward.
Russian hyper-sonic cruise missiles like the 3M22 Zircon are impressive but their large size and weight means that a surface ship or aircraft would only be able to carry a small number of them.

How effective is the stealth on a missile like the LRASM or NSM? Would our ships be able to detect them in time to respond?

 

[satria]

The Indonesian Navy has again built two units of Fast Patrol Boats

The Indonesian Navy has again built two units of Fast Patrol Boats 60 Meter Multiyears TA. 2022 to 2024 which is strengthened by the main weapon system tool (Alustista) with the manufacturing process of First Steel Cutting and Keel Laying at PT Caputra Mitra Sejati, Pulo Ampel, Serang Regency, Banten, Friday (9/12/2022).

"The two KRI PC 60 M units can also carry 50 personnel and 5 reserves equipped with a 40 mm cannon and a Firing Control System and a light 12.7 mm caliber cannon," he said.

Ahmadi said the target for the construction of the KRI PC 60 M was carried out for 26 months with a budget of 600 billion.

TNI Angkatan Laut kembali membangun dua unit Kapal Patroli Cepat - ANTARA News Banten

TNI Angkatan Laut kembali membangun dua unit Kapal Patroli Cepat 60 Meter Multiyears TA. 2022 hingga 2024 yang diperkuat Alat utama sistem senjata (Alustista) ...

banten.antaranews.com

 

[Madokafc]

So there is at least four opv 60 meter class confirmed in building process. They should be Armed with 40 mm gun (previous two using oto melara gun)

 

[Lordimperator]

So there is at least four opv 60 meter class confirmed in building process. They should be Armed with 40 mm gun (previous two using oto melara gun)

Till how many kapal cepat 60meter planned to be build ?

 

[deadlast]

Till how many kapal cepat 60meter planned to be build ?

My note on this:
2x unit PC60 built by PT. Caputra in 2021 - already operational
1x unit PC60 built by PT. Karimun in 2022 - under construction
1x unit PC60 built by PT. Palindo in 2022 - under construction

and also this news:

The Indonesian Navy has again built two units of Fast Patrol Boats

The Indonesian Navy has again built two units of Fast Patrol Boats 60 Meter Multiyears TA. 2022 to 2024 which is strengthened by the main weapon system tool (Alustista) with the manufacturing process of First Steel Cutting and Keel Laying at PT Caputra Mitra Sejati, Pulo Ampel, Serang Regency, Banten, Friday (9/12/2022).

"The two KRI PC 60 M units can also carry 50 personnel and 5 reserves equipped with a 40 mm cannon and a Firing Control System and a light 12.7 mm caliber cannon," he said.

Ahmadi said the target for the construction of the KRI PC 60 M was carried out for 26 months with a budget of 600 billion.

2x unit PC60 built by PT. Caputra in 2022 - under construction


In total 6x unit PC60, 2x unit already operational and 4x unit under construction.

 

[munyb]

My note on this:
2x unit PC60 built by PT. Caputra in 2021 - already operational
1x unit PC60 built by PT. Karimun in 2022 - under construction
1x unit PC60 built by PT. Palindo in 2022 - under construction

and also this news:

2x unit PC60 built by PT. Caputra in 2022 - under construction


In total 6x unit PC60, 2x unit already operational and 4x unit under construction.

Don't forget the one built by Tesco.. Which is use waterjet

 

[satria]

Till how many kapal cepat 60meter planned to be build ?

The three-star TNI AL general who is predicted to become the Chief of Naval Staff (KSAL) said, the fast patrol boat being built is targeted to be completed in 2024 and will become the main weaponry system of the Indonesian Navy's Koarmada III, headquartered in Sorong Regency, Southwest Papua.

Overall, the Indonesian Navy will build 10 fast patrol boats to protect Indonesia's sovereignty, from illegal fishing to illegal playing.

"We need 50 ships, currently we only have 40 ships, but 50 percent are old ships. That will also be our program for repairs, so that shipyards compete to build fast patrol boats, there are still a lot of them, of course we are less than 10. " he explained.

Shipbuilding in Indonesian shipyards is ensured to use domestic components that have been regulated by the government. Including currently, is building a Fast Missile Ship (KCR) or Combat Management System (CMS) as a light warship in the Batam area.

"Building ships from within the country is very effective compared to us waiting for combat warships (from abroad). We have made two battleships, CMS, we have made two, one was made and another is planned, in Batam, a type of small ship. We have to start, because how to invite shipyard friends to improvise to be better," he added

TNI AL Pesan 2 Kapal Patroli Cepat Dilengkapi Meriam, Made in Banten

TNI Angkatan Laut memesan dua kapal patroli cepat di galangan kapal milik PT Caputra Mitra Sejati (CMS), Kecamatan Puloampel, Kabupaten Serang, Banten.

www.viva.co.id

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601438229219401731

 

[deadlast]

Don't forget the one built by Tesco.. Which is use waterjet

AFAIK, The one from PT. Tesco are mentioned as KCR60, not PC60.

 

[Gary]

Good video on anti-ship missiles.

Smart stealth missiles like the LRASM or Naval Strike Missile seem like the best options for anti-ship missiles going forward.
Russian hyper-sonic cruise missiles like the 3M22 Zircon are impressive but their large size and weight means that a surface ship or aircraft would only be able to carry a small number of them.

Basically what I've said in this thread lol

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[munyb]

AFAIK, The one from PT. Tesco are mentioned as KCR60, not PC60.

So KCR60M then? And this kind of ship will be produced by PAL.. Which is already launched 6 ships and on going with another 2? And this Tesco variant only 1 sample rite?