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Ukrainians have bad obsession with "wonder weapons". First Javelins, then Bayraktars, now Leopard 2.

Since Russia is using now infantry zerg rush, what Ukraine needs now the most is 120-mm self propelled mortars:

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Like US M1064 and German M113 G3. They are very cheap, US and Germany have plenty of them.

In combination with Mavik drones they will be extremely deadly against infantry.
 

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It will be interesting to see how the Leopards perform in Ukraine when/if they arrive against the T-90 and Kornet E and EM.
 

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Turkiye won't meet them if Turkiye do not invade Greece mainland.

Its not about that, its to give the greeks courage that they can encroach on Turkey over the Agean and eastern med. Because if greeks feel secure that they can't be invaded, they are more likily to behave aggressively over the islands. Because if greeks attacked Turkey, Turks will look to retaliate.

During the cyprus the troubles, the greeks felt comfortable that they could commit genocide on the Turkish cypriots and annex the entire island illegally because Britian/France and Soviet union were threatening Turkey not to do anything. Arming the mainland greece is not about Turkiye invading greece, its entirely about giving the greeks the confidence and security that they can challenge Turkiye directly in places she has no business.

When the Turks finally had enough and said to england, france and especially the soviet union you are not going to threaten me to sit back and watch as the Muslim Turkish Cypriots are being slaughtered and the Turkish army moved, the greeks even fled behind a british base on the island.

The Turks fired warning shots at the british, basically saying if you harbour the enemy you will become the target too and the british moved the greeks along.

Its the same old story with the greeks, western protestant powers using the orthodox greeks as cannon fodder against the Muslim in their geopolitical adventures.
 
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Its not about, its to give the greeks courage that they can enroach on Turkey over the Agean and eastern med. Because if greeks feel secure that they can't be invaded, they are more likily to behave aggressively over the islands. Because if greeks attacked Turkey, Turks will look to retaliate.

During the cyprus the troubles, the greeks felt comfortable that they could commit genocide on the Turkish cypriots and annex the entire island illegally because Britian/France and Soviet union were threatening Turkey not to do anything. Arming the mainland greece is not about Turkiye invading greece, its entirely about giving the greeks the confidence and security that they can challenge Turkiye directly in places she has no business.

When the Turks finally had enough and said to england, france and especially the soviet union you are not going to threaten me to sit back and watch as the Muslim Turkish Cypriots are being slaughtered and the Turkish army moved, the greeks even fled behind a british base on the island.

The Turks fired warning shots at the british, basically saying if you harbour the enemy you will become the target too and the british moved the greeks along.

Its the same old story with the greeks, western protestant powers using the orthodox greeks as cannon fodder against the Muslim in their geopolitical adventures.
The US is playing the same game they did in Ukraine to provoke Russia with Türkiye and Greece. It's quite obvious.
 

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It would be absurd if tanks destined for Eastern Europe or Romania would be stationed in permanent military bases in Greece. This is an argument that can only be valid if Greece is used for transit purposes. But no they are permanently stationed there. This means that the US military intimidated Turkey.
I wasn't aware that they are permanently deployed there.Would you mind providing a source about that information?
You think US is preparing to invade Turkey?
 

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The US is playing the same game they did in Ukraine to provoke Russia with Türkiye and Greece. It's quite obvious.

There are differences though that are important. Ukraine was no threat to Russia, Russia has the largest nation on earth and a massive nuclear arsenal. Russia wasn't content with being a big player, they wanted to be a global power hence they are trying to invade everyone. They deserve to lose.

With us, we were quite happy to exist within our means, even looking to join the EU. Instead the games at play aim to extinguish us eventually. Open support for PKK, support for greek imperial ambitions, support of armenians against us. United American, Russian and European agenda to undermine us in every direction we look.

Everywhere we have moved has been to counter this game. We have to keep playing the game because if we doing nothing you will wake up one day and everyones army will be at your throat with no space to move. Russia really didnt need to invade Ukraine, however we cannot sit back as Turks and wait until its too late, its obvious they are coming for us, they are just taking the boiling frog approach.
 

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There are differences though that are important. Ukraine was no threat to Russia, Russia has the largest nation on earth and a massive nuclear arsenal. Russia wasn't content with being a big player, they wanted to be a global power hence they are trying to invade everyone. They deserve to lose.

With us, we were quite happy to exist within our means, even looking to join the EU. Instead the games at play aim to extinguish us eventually. Open support for PKK, support for greek imperial ambitions, support of armenians against us. United American, Russian and European agenda to undermine us in every direction we look.

Everywhere we have moved has been to counter this game. We have to keep playing the game because if we doing nothing you will wake up one day and everyones army will be at your throat with no space to move. Russia really didnt need to invade Ukraine, however we cannot sit back as Turks and wait until its too late, its obvious they are coming for us, they are just taking the boiling frog approach.
Sounds like the perfect reason to get ones own Nukes. I know I say it a lot but this is THE weapon that will safe every nation from invasion, no matter what plans other countries do. So I hope the fool on top isn't sleeping...
 

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Sounds like the perfect reason to get ones own Nukes. I know I say it a lot but this is THE weapon that will safe every nation from invasion, no matter what plans other countries do. So I hope the fool on top isn't sleeping...

Nukes will stop a direct invasion, but it will not stop the attacks. Look at Ukraine/Russia as an example, Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal on earth and she has to look on as about 50 nations provide material support to Ukraine. All that nuclear power will not stop them losing the war in Ukraine. However it does stop any nation like the USA from directly intervening.
 

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I wasn't aware that they are permanently deployed there.Would you mind providing a source about that information?
You think US is preparing to invade Turkey?
 

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This is testament to the might of the Glorious Russian Airforce /s
It is just a spectator at this point.

An oversimplification but the lack of activity by the RAF ( CAP , Interdiction , Strike , Damage asessment recon) could be one of the significant factor behind Russia's failures to achieve its objectives.
I mean a Su-27 is just flying and not striking positions, I don't get the purpose of the post(atleast we get footage of Russian aircrafts still bombing Ukrainian positions on twitter)? Have some laughs.

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Since the entire war was just focusing on the Russians pushing to the west towards Bakhmut, there now seems to be a push going on from the south of Ukraine, it's just getting worse for the AFU.

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Ukrainians have bad obsession with "wonder weapons". First Javelins, then Bayraktars, now Leopard 2.



Since Russia is using now infantry zerg rush, what Ukraine needs now the most is 120-mm self propelled mortars:







Like US M1064 and German M113 G3. They are very cheap, US and Germany have plenty of them.



In combination with Mavik drones they will be extremely deadly against infantry.

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Ukrainians have bad obsession with "wonder weapons". First Javelins, then Bayraktars, now Leopard 2.

Since Russia is using now infantry zerg rush, what Ukraine needs now the most is 120-mm self propelled mortars:

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Like US M1064 and German M113 G3. They are very cheap, US and Germany have plenty of them.
In combination with Mavik drones they will be extremely deadly against infantry.
We've started to see 120mm, 81mm and 60mm mortars be announced for Ukraine to the front, as well as much needed 105mm artillery that can handle infantry advances at short ranges.

As an example, since December 21st (one month) USA has announced 3 aid packages to Ukraine. Those 3 aid packages have included the following.

36x M119, 105mm light howitzers.
10x 120mm mortars
10x 82mm mortars
10x 60mm mortars
190,000 rounds of 105mm artillery rounds.
31,800 120mm mortar rounds.

Britain announced another package as well that includes...
20x L119, 105mm light howitzers
20,000 rounds of 105mm artillery rounds.

Poland sent a package that included...
100x 60mm, LMP-207 60mm mortars
15,000 rounds of 60mm mortar rounds

Those are just a couple examples. France, Germany, Czech Republic, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, etc, etc have also sent various mortar systems and ammunition to Ukraine. I'm not suggesting that more could not be sent, especially the self propelled mortars that you're talking about, but there definitely have been attempts made to up Ukraine's anti-infantry capabilities.
 

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I mean a Su-27 is just flying
why is it flying and contesting airspace in Bakhmut ?

What is the RuAF doing to prevent this ?
What is it doing to strike Ukranian artillery/ HIMARS/assets that have been striking Russian Forces (Some of them deep inside Russia ) ?

Despite possessing the numerical and technical superiority, the RuAF remains unable to destroy Ukranian Air assets (some of which are flying close to the frontline). Their failure to destroy/disable Ukranian land assets (and protect their own from Ukranian attacks) is noteworthy.
 

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why is it flying and contesting airspace in Bakhmut ?

What is the RuAF doing to prevent this ?
What is it doing to strike Ukranian artillery/ HIMARS/assets that have been striking Russian Forces (Some of them deep inside Russia ) ?

Despite possessing the numerical and technical superiority, the RuAF remains unable to destroy Ukranian Air assets (some of which are flying close to the frontline). Their failure to destroy/disable Ukranian land assets (and protect their own from Ukranian attacks) is noteworthy.
Su-27s can always get captured later and its rather unclear if it even is flying in Bakhmut, Ukrainian aircrafts get shot down all the time but it does not seem to pose a threat if it's not bombing Wagner. The HIMAR strikes were striking some bridge no one care about and didn't bring down, and it even failed to destroy a Lada, Its not stopping the Russian marines from going north or Wagner from moving further west. I dont know if I should laugh or cry that users get excited about some aircraft flying in the air and not bombing shit but ignoring the AFU getting fucked as we speak.
 

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