TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[Huelague]

Maybe Ukraine can help after the war.They may be the country with the most types of atgm in the world.

Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq…you can find it everywhere. And of course in Ukraine.

 

[Afif]

Israelis claim their 5th gen Spike LR II can defeat APS.

According to RAFAEL, the SPIKE LR II is the only missiles known to have an inherent Counter-APS (CAPS) capability.

AKKOR should be tested against that too if possible.

 

[Osman]

According to sipri trade registers, 160 javelins were delivered in 2017 by US.

 

[Afif]

According to sipri trade registers, 160 javelins were delivered in 2017 by US.

Oh, Don't believe everything SIRPI trade registers says.
According them, BD army has 2x more rocket and heavy artillery then it actually does.

 

[Sanchez]

According to sipri trade registers, 160 javelins were delivered in 2017 by US.

Congress supposedly approved that sale but I don't think it went through. Couldn't find the DSCA notice either, it used to be up.

 

[Dmr]

Ukraine,Russia(captured pieces like the ones they gave Iran last year) may have sold a few Javelins to Turkey.Probably to study it and maybe speed up the Karaok project.
It wasnt long ago when Karaok's effective range went from 1000m to 2500m(javelin's range) all of the sudden...

 

[Afif]

Ukraine,Russia(captured pieces like the ones they gave Iran last year) may have sold a few Javelins to Turkey.Probably to study it and maybe speed up the Karaok project.
It wasnt long ago when Karaok's effective range went from 1000m to 2500m(javelin's range) all of the sudden...

That is not how it's work. Karaok's 2500m range were achieved before the war started if I am not mistaken.

Besides, reverse engineering is not that easy. Specially if you want to maintain the quality.

 

[Dmr]

That is not how it's work. Karaok's 2500m range were achieved before the war started if I am not mistaken.

Besides, reverse engineering is not that easy. Specially if you want to maintain the quality.

I said study it(and its components) and maybe use some of that to improve Karaok and test Akkor,not reverse engineer or straight copy it.The "copy paste" approach will be done by Iran in close future like they did with Spike missile.

 

[Heartbang]

That is not how it's work. Karaok's 2500m range were achieved before the war started if I am not mistaken.

Funny thing I noticed, apparently Javelin's range depends on the command line unit that provides the targeting data. Vehicle launched Javelins have more range, on the merit of the more capable IIR optics present on the platform.

I wonder how feasible it would be to add datalink capabilities to Karaok in order to get mid-course targeting capabilities from other platforms.

 

[Afif]

Funny thing I noticed, apparently Javelin's range depends on the command line unit that provides the targeting data. Vehicle launched Javelins have more range, on the merit of the more capable IIR optics present on the platform.

Yeah, I know that too. Newer javelins has 4000m range or something like that.

I wonder how feasible it would be to add datalink capabilities to Karaok in order to get mid-course targeting capabilities from other platforms.

Nuh, probably not worth it.

More feasible with Umtas and Omtas.

 

[Heartbang]

Nuh, probably not worth it.

In order to lighten the logistical footprint and ensure sufficient supply in times of crisis, OMTAS and KARAOK should merge into a single missile that can be fired from absolutely EVERYTHING. The US already taking steps in that route, slapping Javelin into anything and everything they can.
Are we richer than the US?

 

[Era_shield]

Whether or not the latest Javelins were used for testing is irrelevant. The updates the most recent Javelin had involve increases in range and penetration, neither of which has any effect on the Akkor's interception of them.

 

[Heartbang]

The updates the most recent Javelin had involve increases in range

Which applied to the CLU(guidance computer), the missile is largely the same. Just wanted to point that out.

You're right about Akkor tho, it beats them all.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

reverse engineering is not that easy.

By far, easier than starting from scratch.

Specially if you want to maintain the quality.

We're talking about Türkiye here, not China or elsewhere.

 

[Afif]

By far, easier than starting from scratch.

We're talking about Türkiye here, not China or elsewhere.

What's your point? Be more specific. we talking about karaok here.

 

[Aloster]

Avtua

Ukraine,Russia(captured pieces like the ones they gave Iran last year) may have sold a few Javelins to Turkey.Probably to study it and maybe speed up the Karaok project.
It wasnt long ago when Karaok's effective range went from 1000m to 2500m(javelin's range) all of the sudden...

Actually it is not necessary or true acc to me . At Libya many javelin captured from Hafter which belongs to France at 2019 . Probably some of them came to Türkiye if needed at 2019. Also if I don't remember wrongly some rumour existed also captured from PKK at least just missile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1144370867968847872

 

[Boz]

ALTAY.

Watch Yeni ALTAY | Streamable

Watch "Yeni ALTAY" on Streamable.

streamable.com

 

[Ryder]

Avtua
Actually it is not necessary or true acc to me . At Libya many javelin captured from Hafter which belongs to France at 2019 . Probably some of them came to Türkiye if needed at 2019. Also if I don't remember wrongly some rumour existed also captured from PKK at least just missile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1144370867968847872

Did the Americans know about what the French are doing.

 

[Aloster]

Did the Americans know about what the French are doing.

Yes they know BM will questioned it. And asked to French and BAE. But I didn't follow more. Only French said that these given to french military base for protection purpose ... and also these missiles broken ones... May be a French and BAE member enlighten us because at a point I cant find reliable sources.

American Missiles Found in Libyan Rebel Compound (Published 2019)

The powerful American missiles had fallen into the hands of rebels fighting a U.S.-backed government. The U.S. appears to have sold the missiles to the U.A.E.

www.nytimes.com

BM, Fransa ve BAE'den 'Libya'daki füzelere' ilişkin açıklama bekliyor

BM Genel Sekreter Sözcüsü Haq, "Tüm ülkelerden, BMGK'nın yaptırım komitesine, yaptırım ihlallerine ilişkin ihtiyaç duyduğu bilgileri sağlama noktasında iş birliği yapmalarını bekliyoruz." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Altay is prepared for long waited first delivery ceremony.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648649725149585411