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How much do the inlet diverters hamper the Kaan's RCS compared to a DSI design? I see /k/ users mentioning it will essentially ruin the stealth profile.
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That is not the case. If DSI was such a necessity, then it would've been implemented.How much do the inlet diverters hamper the Kaan's RCS compared to a DSI design? I see /k/ users mentioning it will essentially ruin the stealth profile.
Can't be that much, given the F-22 uses it too.How much do the inlet diverters hamper the Kaan's RCS compared to a DSI design? I see /k/ users mentioning it will essentially ruin the stealth profile.
Can be a 'semi' inlets the solution?Can't be that much, given the F-22 uses it too.
F-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22. All the supposed to be 5th gen contenders like J-20 are also employing the DSI design. What was the purpose of sacrificing stealth for additional speed, when it'll be facing BVR threats on the horizon?Can't be that much, given the F-22 uses it too.
Depends, space between the intake and the body is not uselessF-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22. All the supposed to be 5th gen contenders like J-20 are also employing the DSI design. What was the purpose of sacrificing stealth for additional speed, when it'll be facing BVR threats on the horizon?
I thought it is other way around.F-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22
Faster platform speed = longer missile range, and easier to get out of enemy no escape zone. Although two equivalent 5th gen fighters would almost only fight within visual range, where maneuverability may matter even more? Another thing, Tempest concepts seem to be using a similar inlet design. Let's also not forget that TAI did manufacture the fuselage and inlets of F35, so we must know how to do it if we wanted.F-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22. All the supposed to be 5th gen contenders like J-20 are also employing the DSI design. What was the purpose of sacrificing stealth for additional speed, when it'll be facing BVR threats on the horizon?
The RCS of the F-22 is classified. Any numbers you see on the internet are just guesses or rumours. However we can compare them from the fact that the F-35 is offered to half the world while the F-22 is sold to no one, not even the US' closest allies.F-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22.
F-35 has superior RCS compared to F-22. All the supposed to be 5th gen contenders like J-20 are also employing the DSI design. What was the purpose of sacrificing stealth for additional speed, when it'll be facing BVR threats on the horizon?
The RCS of the F-22 is classified. Any numbers you see on the internet are just guesses or rumours. However we can compare them from the fact that the F-35 is offered to half the world while the F-22 is sold to no one, not even the US' closest allies.
I do wonder how the F-35's EW capabilities factor into those statements. If the F-35 doesn't need to conduct EW to be stealthier than the F-22, that would be quite impressive.In 2014, former commander of Air Combat Command, Gen. Hostag stated in an interview that, F-35's RCS is smaller then F-22's.
“The F-35 is geared to go out and take down the surface targets,” says Hostage, leaning forward. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.”
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This was later confirmed by Gen. Bogdan, Fq-35 Program Executive Officer.
“I would say that General Hostage … is accurate in his statement about the simple stealthiness of the F-35 [with regard] to other airplanes,” Bogdan said in the interview. The statement was accurate for radar cross section, as measured in decibels, and range of detectability, he said, and he scoffed at the notion that anyone can tell how stealthy an aircraft is just by looking at it.
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I do wonder how the F-35's EW capabilities factor into those statements. If the F-35 doesn't need to conduct EW to be stealthier than the F-22, that would be quite impressive.
The whole jet or from special angles? What could be the reason why F-35 has to be a lower RCS?In 2014, former commander of Air Combat Command, Gen. Hostag stated in an interview that, F-35's RCS is smaller then F-22's.
“The F-35 is geared to go out and take down the surface targets,” says Hostage, leaning forward. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.”
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This was later confirmed by Gen. Bogdan, Fq-35 Program Executive Officer.
“I would say that General Hostage … is accurate in his statement about the simple stealthiness of the F-35 [with regard] to other airplanes,” Bogdan said in the interview. The statement was accurate for radar cross section, as measured in decibels, and range of detectability, he said, and he scoffed at the notion that anyone can tell how stealthy an aircraft is just by looking at it.
The F-35 on Final Approach | Air & Space Forces Magazine
The massive strike fighter program is less than a year from initial combat readiness.www.airandspaceforces.com
Col. Chris Niemi who has eight years in the cockpit of an F-22 and is one of the few Air Force pilots who is qualified in both the Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II stated that, he wanted to set the record straight on the Lightning II, once and for all. “Many have compared the F-22 to the F-35 but that comparison is unfair. With the F-35 Lightning, this fighter sees better, has more range, and is stealthier than any of its predecessors. This airplane, with its fly by wire technology, is super easy to fly and it has a very linear response.”
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Edit- to be fair I should also add this-
"The F-35’s cross section is smaller than the F-22’s, but that does not mean, Hostage concedes, that the F-35 is necessarily superior to the F-22 when we go to war. In fact, Hostage says that it takes eight F-35s to do what two F-22s can handle." (in Air superiority given superior speed, altitude and maneuverability)
The whole jet or from special angles? What could be the reason why F-35 has to be a lower RCS?
20 years later. Is it possible that in F-35 more radar absorbing material are used, same goes to paint (matured nano technology).Good question, but tbh, I don't know the exact answer. (Probably not the whole jet, F-22 for sure has better RCS from rear-aspect due to its unique nozzles)