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[Nilgiri]

Rust Belt type (Detroit,Cleveland....)

These are all democrat monolith run too. Competence only comes with competition politically. You have same guys running the place for decades, this is what sets in over time.

Labour union bribe system kept in place while the industry is shipped overseas. So more reliance on same set of politicians formed....because people dont want to take responsibility for themselves.

Then the politicians find new set of things for people to attack each other on and stay divided so that no one asks meaningful questions and start to make separate politics outside of the establishment and convention.

I dont think separate states will form, but maybe more communities will move and set up new politics and community organisation at local level. States able to accomodate this and with balanced budget as possible will do best in interim and wait for the more fat-debt +kick the can ones to implode later.....then the whole system can be re-engineered to better setting (what is the proper role of federal govt vs state govt when it comes to debt, budget and overall political/media/social agenda). More local govt will win this argument at that point....in many ways this is already happening.

New "Liberalism"/progressivism (at entire federal + heavy institutional capture level) cannot continue on hypocrisy the way it has for a while now....you are supposed to have diversity of thought under the greater collective principle with proof rather than words and unfettered social engineering (to try subvert those principles even within one generation as though people forget so easy).

If identity politics is opened and waged (like was intensified on purpose during Obama tenure to distract from failure of delivering his promises made in 2008 after 2 terms of neo con Bush...both of them adding drastically to national debt and bad foreign and economic policy), then current setup fractures even more in lot of areas and the resolutions will have to shift accordingly.

Those that want to live in the 90s compromise system, move to those states and preserve those norms there. Those that want the brave new world stuff of deep blue states stay in those states. Federal govt is made to get out of the way of this as far as possible. Simple.

But US has the size and experience to work this out as messy as it might seem....and how anti-establishment things might look and sound in the process of these readjustments. How it does, we shall see.

 

[Ryder]

İf we solve LGBT problem, will we be rich as we were in old good days?

When i was a child, we didn't have LGBT problem and our life was paradise.
Our grandparents and their grandparents didn't face LGBT so they lived like Kings and Queens..
LGBT yokken musluklardan çikolata akıyormuş evlerde .


Do you really think Islam is successful and capable to abolish homosexuality?

İ see transexuals in Istanbul more than Berlin.

WTF LGBT problem is?

Do we welcome Transexuals but are we against Gays?( Hem alıcı hem verici olunca mı problem sayılıyor?)))

Escinseler hep vardi ama eskiden hic bisey yapamazlardi cunku yasakdi.

Bugunku bakarsan evlenibiliyorlar ve cocuk alabiliyorlar hemde pride monthlarida var.

Eskiden bunlara yapamazdi cunku yasak ve olumle sonuclanardi.

Islam ve Cogu dinlerde escinselik yasak. Islamin seriati escinsel olum sonuclaniyor ya da omru boyunu hapis cezasi.

Escinsel ve zenginlik hic alakasi yok. Insanlar zannediyor teknoloji ve ilim escinselere bagli Batlilar boyle propaganda yapiyor.

Hic kanma.

 

[Ryder]

I mean what is the point TAF also is fought against ISIS which is extremist Muslims.

Thats the difference you dont see majority of Muslims supporting aq or isis hence why they are such a minority but Lbgt are supporting pkk and other leftist terror groups all in the name of progressivism.

They think Kurds are secualr and liberal while in reality they are pretty conservative and tribal.

Progressive Western liberals should book a trip to Erbil try to preach their lbgt rights to the local people they will see the reaction.

Terrorist Abdullah Ocalan in his books wrote a scathing criticism of homosexuality.

Nowadays you have queers fighting for pkk and ypg. The irony lmaoooo

 

[UkroTurk]

Escinseler hep vardi ama eskiden hic bisey yapamazlardi cunku yasakdi.

Yüzyıllardır yasak olmasına rağmen hala günümüzde devam etmesi neden?

 

[Ryder]

Yüzyıllardır yasak olmasına rağmen hala günümüzde devam etmesi neden?

Cunku Insanoglu hata yapiyor. Insanlarda hayvanlarla yatiyor.

Ona da serbest yapicaz mi?

 

[UkroTurk]

Cunku Insanoglu hata yapiyor. Insanlarda hayvanlarla yatiyor.

Ona da serbest yapicaz mi?

Eşcinsel ilişkiye girmek suç değilki ? Yasaklanmasını da istemiyor AKP?

 

[Ryder]

When is he going to release his greatest hits album.

 

[AWP]

Tom and Spike , Turkish edition

 

[Ryder]

Tom and Spike , Turkish edition

All those people cant even stop a cat lmaooooo

Shows how cats from Domestic Cats to Tigers are all agile.

Agility is their strength.

 

[Afif]

Lol , Sure whatever you want mate

Bruh, It's not about my preference. It's about facts on the ground. My country does not even recognize Israel. And so far I support that position.
BD army even legally train Palestinian cadets almost each year.

And Ukrainian land is recognized as Ukrainian land by every member of the International community. I didn't get your argument on that.

 

[Ryder]

Dedicated to Prigyboo(Yevgeny Prighozin)

I dont drink but I will ask a Russian to raise a glass of Vodka to you.

 

[Afif]

Very Recently I visited Sylhet district of BD. Its nature really is breathtaking.
Thought share my experience with you.

This is the best representation I could find on YouTube. @Ryder @Nilgiri and @TR_123456

 

[Nilgiri]

Very Recently I visited Sylhet district of BD. Its nature really is breathtaking.
Thought share my experience with you.

This is the best representation I could find on YouTube. @Ryder @Nilgiri and @TR_123456

Nice they have some very good tea gardens, just like in my neck of woods in south of India around the Nilgiri hills and western Ghats (border with Kerala, Munnar etc).

Hills often provide the optimal zone for tea growing as water drainage is taken care of automatically. I guess in Sylhet's case, there are foothills from the Khasi formation in Meghalaya.

Do you understand Sylheti btw? I get variety of answers from other Bengalis regarding this. Chatgaiya is another one thats very different to the core dialects.

 

[Afif]

Nice they have some very good tea gardens, just like in my neck of woods in south of India around the Nilgiri hills and western Ghats (border with Kerala, Munnar etc).

Hills often provide the optimal zone for tea growing as water drainage is taken care of automatically. I guess in Sylhet's case, there are foothills from the Khasi formation in Meghalaya.

Yes, majority of Meghalayas water comes down into Northern region of Bangladesh.

Do you understand Sylheti btw? I get variety of answers from other Bengalis regarding this. Chatgaiya is another one thats very different to the core dialects.

Sylheti is not that hard. I understand it mostly, it is just that you need them to repeat the sentence or explain it you if you are not familiar. (Like me) but it is not possible to speak.

What is interesting is, the language is not academically classified as Bangla. Rather an independent language. And guess what? Officially, now I can understand a good deal of Assami too. As it turns out, Sylheti is also spoken by some people of Assam.

For some reasons, it sounded very funny to me. I had a hard time trying not to laugh at people.

What I found most intriguing there, is this minority community. Honestly, I didn’t even know they were there. I thought we have minorities in the Chittagong hill track only.

 

[Ryder]

Invest in a Recep Tayyip Erdogan trading card.

You will thank me later.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yes, majority of Meghalayas water comes down into Northern region of Bangladesh.



Sylheti is not that hard. I understand it mostly, it is just that you need them to repeat the sentence or explain it you if you are not familiar. (Like me) but it is not possible to speak.

What is interesting is, the language is not academically classified as Bangla. Rather an independent language. And guess what? Officially, now I can understand a good deal of Assami too. As it turns out, Sylheti is also spoken by some people of Assam.

For some reasons, it sounded very funny to me. I had a hard time trying not to laugh at people.

What I found most intriguing there, is this minority community. Honestly, I didn’t even know they were there. I thought we have minorities in the Chittagong hill track only.

Khasi tribal people right? (I see their dance in the video you posted)

It makes sense, their presence would not suddenly end at the meghalaya border.

I guess sylheti in some respects marks a language continuum between Bengali and Assamese dialects.

Its not surprising that silchar area in Assam has it as its dialect too, just look at the geography...it is separate area (more adjoined to BD sylhet by meghna river system as opposed to brahmaputra valley core w.r.t "main" Assamese language). i.e shaped by Khasi +Barail topography i.e the barak valley which is topographically extension of Sylhet. Tripura Bengali is mostly similar to Bangal dialects for similar reason.

This kind of thing is found in South India w.r.t border areas between languages and dialects of same overall family. The Palghat gap where I originate from means my local dialect has a continuum feature between Tamil and Malayalam (though these 2 languages are probably closer to each other than some Bengali dialects can be) because of the geography and thus history. Large part of reason I understand (and can speak a halfway language haltingly) Malayalam quite easily compared to Tamils from other parts of the state generally can.

Overall generally almost anyone between three languages: Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada (and Tulu) can understand each other fairly well unless there is a large distance in strong dialects (this is rare as most people know the main standard these days and enough of the other ones by movies and overall cross-cultural contact these days etc).

Telugu might be same distance as say Odia or Assamese to Bengali on other hand....understandable to some degree by the others (and it can improve with exposure through TV/movies/friends etc like in my case) but it split from other 3 a lot earlier so it can be challenge...and it definitely sounds very different to the other 3.

Swedish friend of mine told me its similar in Scandinavia in that Swedes and Norwegians have fairly easy time understanding each other and there are language/dialect continuums in border areas between each other as result. ....but Danish (spoken) is very hard for both in comparison even though its same family. Written is generally easy for all to understand....similar to how Chinese standardised writing a lot more compared to spoken.

 

[Afif]

Khasi tribal people right? (I see their dance in the video you posted)

It makes sense, their presence would not suddenly end at the meghalaya border.

I guess sylheti in some respects marks a language continuum between Bengali and Assamese dialects.

Its not surprising that silchar area in Assam has it as its dialect too, just look at the geography...it is separate area (more adjoined to BD sylhet by meghna river system as opposed to brahmaputra valley core w.r.t "main" Assamese language). i.e shaped by Khasi +Barail topography i.e the barak valley which is topographically extension of Sylhet. Tripura Bengali is mostly similar to Bangal dialects for similar reason.

This kind of thing is found in South India w.r.t border areas between languages and dialects of same overall family. The Palghat gap where I originate from means my local dialect has a continuum feature between Tamil and Malayalam (though these 2 languages are probably closer to each other than some Bengali dialects can be) because of the geography and thus history. Large part of reason I understand (and can speak a halfway language haltingly) Malayalam quite easily compared to Tamils from other parts of the state generally can.

Overall generally almost anyone between three languages: Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada (and Tulu) can understand each other fairly well unless there is a large distance in strong dialects (this is rare as most people know the main standard these days and enough of the other ones by movies and overall cross-cultural contact these days etc).

Telugu might be same distance as say Odia or Assamese to Bengali on other hand....understandable to some degree by the others (and it can improve with exposure through TV/movies/friends etc like in my case) but it split from other 3 a lot earlier so it can be challenge...and it definitely sounds very different to the other 3.

Swedish friend of mine told me its similar in Scandinavia in that Swedes and Norwegians have fairly easy time understanding each other and there are language/dialect continuums in border areas between each other as result. ....but Danish (spoken) is very hard for both in comparison even though its same family. Written is generally easy for all to understand....similar to how Chinese standardised writing a lot more compared to spoken.

When I was little I used to think Subcontinent called Subcontinent becuase if we add all the countries it would be a big geography.
But actually, it is one of diverse place on earth. I mean, even more diverse than the continent of Europe.

One of my childhood dream was traveling, I always thought when I grow up and have enough money I am gonna travel to Italy, Türkiye and other Euoprean countries.
If you grow up in the big cities of India Pakistan or Bangladesh (most of them are quite similar with Dhaka probably being the worse) and never get out, Europe is like the dream land, both its nature and cities. The irony is, Subcontinent has world's some of the finest nature and yet we are almost unconscious of it.
When I first saw Kanchenjunga from Tetulia (India-Bangladesh border) I was literally blown away. Sometime one small trip is more educating and broaden your perspective more then reading ten books.
Now sikkim and Nepal is in top of my list. I even got 1 year Indian visa in 2019. But then covid hit.
I am curious, have you ever been to Sikkim?

 

[Nilgiri]

When I was little I used to think Subcontinent called Subcontinent becuase if we add all the countries it would be a big geography.
But actually, it is one of diverse place on earth. I mean, even more diverse than the continent of Europe.

One of my childhood dream was traveling, I always thought when I grow up and have enough money I am gonna travel to Italy, Türkiye and other Euoprean countries.
If you grow up in the big cities of India Pakistan or Bangladesh (most of them are quite similar with Dhaka probably being the worse) and never get out, Europe is like the dream land, both its nature and cities. The irony is, Subcontinent has world's some of the finest nature and yet we are almost unconscious of it.
When I first saw Kanchenjunga from Tetulia (India-Bangladesh border) I was literally blown away. Sometime one small trip is more educating and broaden your perspective more then reading ten books.
Now sikkim and Nepal is in top of my list. I even got 1 year Indian visa in 2019. But then covid hit.
I am curious, have you ever been to Sikkim?

Nope never been to Sikkim. Past Delhi vicinity (Agra, Jaipur et al.) I have not been north of vindhyas heh...including East, North East etc.

Largely a peninsular guy so far, heavily focused mostly in deep south (TN, Bangalore, Mysore, Kerala) with some forays to Andhra Pradesh and also Bombay and Goa.

Definitely plan to change that. Himalayan regions especially are on my bucket list.

Even within just my state and south, there are tons of great places I still have to visit. With the war over in SL and things socially stabilised to some degree, have to make at least one or two visits there too.

 

[Ryder]

Why cant Turkish weddings play this song

 

[Rodeo]

Our Women Volleyball NT beat Poland(3-0) in the EuroVolley QF and will play against Italy on Sept 1st for the semi finals.