TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[Ryder]

Tom and Spike , Turkish edition

All those people cant even stop a cat lmaooooo

Shows how cats from Domestic Cats to Tigers are all agile.

Agility is their strength.

 

[Afif]

Lol , Sure whatever you want mate

Bruh, It's not about my preference. It's about facts on the ground. My country does not even recognize Israel. And so far I support that position.
BD army even legally train Palestinian cadets almost each year.

And Ukrainian land is recognized as Ukrainian land by every member of the International community. I didn't get your argument on that.

 

[Ryder]

Dedicated to Prigyboo(Yevgeny Prighozin)

I dont drink but I will ask a Russian to raise a glass of Vodka to you.

 

[Afif]

Very Recently I visited Sylhet district of BD. Its nature really is breathtaking.
Thought share my experience with you.

This is the best representation I could find on YouTube. @Ryder @Nilgiri and @TR_123456

 

[Nilgiri]

Very Recently I visited Sylhet district of BD. Its nature really is breathtaking.
Thought share my experience with you.

This is the best representation I could find on YouTube. @Ryder @Nilgiri and @TR_123456

Nice they have some very good tea gardens, just like in my neck of woods in south of India around the Nilgiri hills and western Ghats (border with Kerala, Munnar etc).

Hills often provide the optimal zone for tea growing as water drainage is taken care of automatically. I guess in Sylhet's case, there are foothills from the Khasi formation in Meghalaya.

Do you understand Sylheti btw? I get variety of answers from other Bengalis regarding this. Chatgaiya is another one thats very different to the core dialects.

 

[Afif]

Nice they have some very good tea gardens, just like in my neck of woods in south of India around the Nilgiri hills and western Ghats (border with Kerala, Munnar etc).

Hills often provide the optimal zone for tea growing as water drainage is taken care of automatically. I guess in Sylhet's case, there are foothills from the Khasi formation in Meghalaya.

Yes, majority of Meghalayas water comes down into Northern region of Bangladesh.

Do you understand Sylheti btw? I get variety of answers from other Bengalis regarding this. Chatgaiya is another one thats very different to the core dialects.

Sylheti is not that hard. I understand it mostly, it is just that you need them to repeat the sentence or explain it you if you are not familiar. (Like me) but it is not possible to speak.

What is interesting is, the language is not academically classified as Bangla. Rather an independent language. And guess what? Officially, now I can understand a good deal of Assami too. As it turns out, Sylheti is also spoken by some people of Assam.

For some reasons, it sounded very funny to me. I had a hard time trying not to laugh at people.

What I found most intriguing there, is this minority community. Honestly, I didn’t even know they were there. I thought we have minorities in the Chittagong hill track only.

 

[Ryder]

Invest in a Recep Tayyip Erdogan trading card.

You will thank me later.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yes, majority of Meghalayas water comes down into Northern region of Bangladesh.



Sylheti is not that hard. I understand it mostly, it is just that you need them to repeat the sentence or explain it you if you are not familiar. (Like me) but it is not possible to speak.

What is interesting is, the language is not academically classified as Bangla. Rather an independent language. And guess what? Officially, now I can understand a good deal of Assami too. As it turns out, Sylheti is also spoken by some people of Assam.

For some reasons, it sounded very funny to me. I had a hard time trying not to laugh at people.

What I found most intriguing there, is this minority community. Honestly, I didn’t even know they were there. I thought we have minorities in the Chittagong hill track only.

Khasi tribal people right? (I see their dance in the video you posted)

It makes sense, their presence would not suddenly end at the meghalaya border.

I guess sylheti in some respects marks a language continuum between Bengali and Assamese dialects.

Its not surprising that silchar area in Assam has it as its dialect too, just look at the geography...it is separate area (more adjoined to BD sylhet by meghna river system as opposed to brahmaputra valley core w.r.t "main" Assamese language). i.e shaped by Khasi +Barail topography i.e the barak valley which is topographically extension of Sylhet. Tripura Bengali is mostly similar to Bangal dialects for similar reason.

This kind of thing is found in South India w.r.t border areas between languages and dialects of same overall family. The Palghat gap where I originate from means my local dialect has a continuum feature between Tamil and Malayalam (though these 2 languages are probably closer to each other than some Bengali dialects can be) because of the geography and thus history. Large part of reason I understand (and can speak a halfway language haltingly) Malayalam quite easily compared to Tamils from other parts of the state generally can.

Overall generally almost anyone between three languages: Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada (and Tulu) can understand each other fairly well unless there is a large distance in strong dialects (this is rare as most people know the main standard these days and enough of the other ones by movies and overall cross-cultural contact these days etc).

Telugu might be same distance as say Odia or Assamese to Bengali on other hand....understandable to some degree by the others (and it can improve with exposure through TV/movies/friends etc like in my case) but it split from other 3 a lot earlier so it can be challenge...and it definitely sounds very different to the other 3.

Swedish friend of mine told me its similar in Scandinavia in that Swedes and Norwegians have fairly easy time understanding each other and there are language/dialect continuums in border areas between each other as result. ....but Danish (spoken) is very hard for both in comparison even though its same family. Written is generally easy for all to understand....similar to how Chinese standardised writing a lot more compared to spoken.

 

[Afif]

Khasi tribal people right? (I see their dance in the video you posted)

It makes sense, their presence would not suddenly end at the meghalaya border.

I guess sylheti in some respects marks a language continuum between Bengali and Assamese dialects.

Its not surprising that silchar area in Assam has it as its dialect too, just look at the geography...it is separate area (more adjoined to BD sylhet by meghna river system as opposed to brahmaputra valley core w.r.t "main" Assamese language). i.e shaped by Khasi +Barail topography i.e the barak valley which is topographically extension of Sylhet. Tripura Bengali is mostly similar to Bangal dialects for similar reason.

This kind of thing is found in South India w.r.t border areas between languages and dialects of same overall family. The Palghat gap where I originate from means my local dialect has a continuum feature between Tamil and Malayalam (though these 2 languages are probably closer to each other than some Bengali dialects can be) because of the geography and thus history. Large part of reason I understand (and can speak a halfway language haltingly) Malayalam quite easily compared to Tamils from other parts of the state generally can.

Overall generally almost anyone between three languages: Tamil, Malayalam and Kannada (and Tulu) can understand each other fairly well unless there is a large distance in strong dialects (this is rare as most people know the main standard these days and enough of the other ones by movies and overall cross-cultural contact these days etc).

Telugu might be same distance as say Odia or Assamese to Bengali on other hand....understandable to some degree by the others (and it can improve with exposure through TV/movies/friends etc like in my case) but it split from other 3 a lot earlier so it can be challenge...and it definitely sounds very different to the other 3.

Swedish friend of mine told me its similar in Scandinavia in that Swedes and Norwegians have fairly easy time understanding each other and there are language/dialect continuums in border areas between each other as result. ....but Danish (spoken) is very hard for both in comparison even though its same family. Written is generally easy for all to understand....similar to how Chinese standardised writing a lot more compared to spoken.

When I was little I used to think Subcontinent called Subcontinent becuase if we add all the countries it would be a big geography.
But actually, it is one of diverse place on earth. I mean, even more diverse than the continent of Europe.

One of my childhood dream was traveling, I always thought when I grow up and have enough money I am gonna travel to Italy, Türkiye and other Euoprean countries.
If you grow up in the big cities of India Pakistan or Bangladesh (most of them are quite similar with Dhaka probably being the worse) and never get out, Europe is like the dream land, both its nature and cities. The irony is, Subcontinent has world's some of the finest nature and yet we are almost unconscious of it.
When I first saw Kanchenjunga from Tetulia (India-Bangladesh border) I was literally blown away. Sometime one small trip is more educating and broaden your perspective more then reading ten books.
Now sikkim and Nepal is in top of my list. I even got 1 year Indian visa in 2019. But then covid hit.
I am curious, have you ever been to Sikkim?

 

[Nilgiri]

When I was little I used to think Subcontinent called Subcontinent becuase if we add all the countries it would be a big geography.
But actually, it is one of diverse place on earth. I mean, even more diverse than the continent of Europe.

One of my childhood dream was traveling, I always thought when I grow up and have enough money I am gonna travel to Italy, Türkiye and other Euoprean countries.
If you grow up in the big cities of India Pakistan or Bangladesh (most of them are quite similar with Dhaka probably being the worse) and never get out, Europe is like the dream land, both its nature and cities. The irony is, Subcontinent has world's some of the finest nature and yet we are almost unconscious of it.
When I first saw Kanchenjunga from Tetulia (India-Bangladesh border) I was literally blown away. Sometime one small trip is more educating and broaden your perspective more then reading ten books.
Now sikkim and Nepal is in top of my list. I even got 1 year Indian visa in 2019. But then covid hit.
I am curious, have you ever been to Sikkim?

Nope never been to Sikkim. Past Delhi vicinity (Agra, Jaipur et al.) I have not been north of vindhyas heh...including East, North East etc.

Largely a peninsular guy so far, heavily focused mostly in deep south (TN, Bangalore, Mysore, Kerala) with some forays to Andhra Pradesh and also Bombay and Goa.

Definitely plan to change that. Himalayan regions especially are on my bucket list.

Even within just my state and south, there are tons of great places I still have to visit. With the war over in SL and things socially stabilised to some degree, have to make at least one or two visits there too.

 

[Ryder]

Why cant Turkish weddings play this song

 

[Rodeo]

Our Women Volleyball NT beat Poland(3-0) in the EuroVolley QF and will play against Italy on Sept 1st for the semi finals.

 

[Nilgiri]

Its why I have changed over time from more "centre" to more "right wing" (and some lefties call me "far right" sometimes).

Classical liberals and conservatives here warned years ago that the "anti hate speech" stuff the new liberals/ new left would be weaponised in all kind of ways, especially since we do not have a 1st amedment like the US (that is big obstacle to same forces there).....but they (our own politician side) didnt listen....and still dont seem to care much.

Anyway here is bit more context (his case is ongoing):

Jailed parent released

His crime? He allegedly misgendered his daughter

www.binary.org.au

They Were Criminalized for 'Transphobia'

Since 2018, 12 people worldwide have been either investigated, charged or sentenced for alleged transphobia.

4w.pub

Parents these days that truly care about their kids have to start lot earlier w.r.t getting their kids ready for whats out there these days in the leftie power dynamic that wants to have dominion over kids away from family structure (seen as conservative artifact that needs to go away from society to something more big-govt and brave new world etc).

They also need to become more aware to not live in provinces like BC to begin with if possible which has a strong NDP-left political ecosystem (think our local version of extreme parts of HDP etc) that has taken root (this extends down the pacific coast with US etc too w.r.t WSH, OR and Cali)..... compared to say interior canada prairies and even ontario and quebec (which are like 50/50 mixes) where there is still some balance and political competition (so prosecutors are not going to be this aggressive on a father).

That's why you see this case happen there first as they have the province AG and hence lot of crown attorneys under them that are far left minded too on matters like this.....and want to make examples out of people first thing.

Sane minded folks need to gather and regroup and wait things out long term (the lefties turn on each other in all kind of ways if you get out of the way) in parts of their country friendly to them still.....and make the political divorce adjustments as required in the interim (when it comes to say federal govt) in this continent.

A recent legal win for the father happened recently (at least he wont be persecuted/convicted for his speaking up, though like he says the family is long broken sadly):

Canadian Father Jailed After ‘Misgendering’ Daughter Lands Win In Appeal Court

A Canadian father who was thrown in jail after “misgendering” his gender-confused teenage daughter has scored a legal win in the British Columbia Court of Appeal.A judgment issued earlier this month said Robert Hoogland did not have to spend any more time behind bars, and the court dropped an...

www.dailywire.com

You go above the provincial court to court of appeals, and you generally have higher chance of not getting some Marxist judge...as it takes time for things to soak upwards. Hopefully this does persist long enough for the pushback + tide turning he senses to come through.

 

[Ryder]

Galatasaray Fans deserve a diss.

Brought to you by Kadikoy Gang

 

[Rodeo]

WE ARE IN THE FINAL!

It was a tough game but Turkiye has defeated Italy in the semifinals to play final against the winner of Serbia - Netherlands match.

 

[Tornadoss]

Political Islam is the most disgusting thing in Turkey.

First they are attacking a national player because of her sexual orientation. Then, they got their answer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696008447894892873

After that, they are distorting the issue playing victim. Then, keep continue attacking.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1698153802791047329

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1697904276507353183

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1697959887144099954

 

[CAN_TR]

As if the country doesn't have other problems...

 

[Deliorman]

It is a woman that have done and continues to do for Turkey much more than you and all the Islamist trolls will ever do.

 

[Numberone]

Is that a Man or a Woman.

What kind of comment is this?

Admins?

 

[Sanchez]

Ebrar Karakurt in her erkek midir kadın mıdır bilmem shewolf form did more for this country than 1000s of men combined. Have some respect, have some dignity.

She has it tough as an LGBT Turkish nationalist. Islamists hate her because who she is, Kurdish nationalists hate her because she doesn't subscribe to the leftist HDP bs. All the power to her.