TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Boz]

Beauty

And the beast

Yes.

 

[what]

KAAN to fly in the coming days!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744645753279033428

Didn't like Kotils appearance in this video tbh, he looks a bit down.
Hope to hear and see some good news from TAI soon and better morale.

 

[Boz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745337771907023037

 

[Zafer]

 

[fushkee]

Those who lives in neighborhood near TAI facilities should have their cameras and çekirdek in order to witness a historical step on that day...

 

[Zafer]

A link to the live countdown timer is included in my signature section

 

[B_A]

South Korea to Begin Indigenous KF-21 Fighter Jet Production

South Korea is planning to sign a contract with Korea Aerospace Industries to commence large-scale production of the KF-21 Boramae aircraft.

www.thedefensepost.com

Korean would start soon,we should hurry up

 

[Agha Sher]

SBB: Work on 6th generation fighter has started!

I believe this would be an upgraded KAAN and not an entirely new platform.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745741583364792344

 

[uçuyorum]

SBB: Work on 6th generation fighter has started!

I believe this would be an upgraded KAAN and not an entirely new platform.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745741583364792344

It is logical that they would work at least in concept for future but meaningless to announce it.

 

[fushkee]

I hope the final decision won’t happen like Hurkus-1 and Hurkus-2

 

[wolveray1]

South Korea to Begin Indigenous KF-21 Fighter Jet Production

South Korea is planning to sign a contract with Korea Aerospace Industries to commence large-scale production of the KF-21 Boramae aircraft.

www.thedefensepost.com

Korean would start soon,we should hurry up

So maybe instead of buying F16 or Eurofighter...just buy from korea.
Its the same latest 4.5 generation fighter and more stealthy too....Certainly less political problem than buying from european or american.

 

[TheInsider]

So maybe instead of buying F16 or Eurofighter...just buy from korea.
Its the same latest 4.5 generation fighter and more stealthy too....Certainly less political problem than buying from european or american.

Korean fighter=US fighter.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

There are many US components in the Korean aircraft, from the engine to the AESA radar, etc.
Here South Korea would get an export stop from the USA.

Either we then develop a much smaller KAAN, e.g. KAAN S from 2028/29, with a detailed canard design and single jet. Or we use the Russians e.g. the SU 35S modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc. then we would definitely be out of NATO, at the moment they still tolerate us even if we don't dance to their tune.

The second possibility would be the Pakistani JF17 Thunder modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc. but here it would not be an upgrade in the real sense, the JF17 is really a good aircraft for the money, but it is slightly below the performance of an F-16. Block 50+ and against Block 70+ /Block Özgur it would unfortunately be totally inferior.
The JF17 would have no chance against Greece or countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel & Co with F-16 Block 70 or Eurofighter Block 4, let alone against the F-35.
You would have to tune it up so much that you could develop a completely new aircraft right away.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Korean aircraft contain many US components, from the engine to the AESA radar, etc.
Here South Korea would get an export ban from the USA.

Either we then develop a much smaller KAAN, e.g. KAAN S from 2028/29, with a Delta Canard design and with a single jet. Or we take a Russian fighter jet, e.g. the SU 35S, modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc.
But then we would definitely be out of NATO, at the moment they still tolerate us, even if we don't dance to their tune.

The second option would be the Pakistani JF17 Thunder, modified with Turkish software, fire control system and avionics etc, but here it would not be an upgrade in the true sense, the JF17 is really a good aircraft for the money, but it is slightly below the performance of an F-16. Block 50+ and against Block 70+ /Block Özgur it would unfortunately be completely inferior.
The JF17 would have no chance against Greece or countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel & Co with their F-16 Block 70 or Eurofighter Block 4, let alone against the F-35.
It would have to be optimized so much that a completely new aircraft could be developed with the money.
We definitely need another single jet fighter between the KAAN and the F-16.
Neither Hürjet nor Kizilelma/Anka 3 as a fighter aircraft can fill this gap.

 

[DBdev]

So maybe instead of buying F16 or Eurofighter...just buy from korea.
Its the same latest 4.5 generation fighter and more stealthy too....Certainly less political problem than buying from european or american.

Anything not on par with Greek's F-35s and American's F-22s is a no starter for Türkiye. They will just be shiny flying coffins, not fighter jets.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

TAI KAAN as a 5+ generation fighter would have to have an engine of at least 18000 lbf to remain competitive, in principle 80 kn dry and 36000 lbf 160 kn with an afterburner.
I don't know whether our engineers will be able to achieve this so easily in 6-8 years - that's a lot.
Is the TEI TF 6000 engine already installed in the Anka 3 prototype?

 

[BaburKhan]

TAI KAAN as a 5+ generation fighter would have to have an engine of at least 18000 lbf to remain competitive, in principle 80 kn dry and 36000 lbf 160 kn with an afterburner.
I don't know whether our engineers will be able to achieve this so easily in 6-8 years - that's a lot.
Is the TEI TF 6000 engine already installed in the Anka 3 prototype?

As far I know they use an ukrainian Engine, TF-6000 will be integrated later. I think also the serial Production Anka-3 will use the ukrainian Engine.

 

[Yasar_TR]

TAI KAAN as a 5+ generation fighter would have to have an engine of at least 18000 lbf to remain competitive, in principle 80 kn dry and 36000 lbf 160 kn with an afterburner.
I don't know whether our engineers will be able to achieve this so easily in 6-8 years - that's a lot.
Is the TEI TF 6000 engine already installed in the Anka 3 prototype?

First of all, it has to be known that the engine that is named in the media as TF35000, is being developed for KAAN as a high dry thrust engine. Since the TEI MD himself announced that TEI could develop an engine similar to F119, we automatically expect a 26000lbf dry thrust and 35000lbf wet thrust from the engine being developed.
This is commensurate with the requirement of high supercruise capability expectation from KAAN as well.
If we are aiming for a developed engine version of the F110 that is powering the KAAN at the moment, then an engine like F110GE129EFE that develops 19000lbf dry thrust and 32000lbf wet thrust is already well within the TEI capability as they are already producing many a part of this engine and maintaining them in house too.
But if we are to expect 5th generation capability from this plane, then it has to have an engine that is constructed so that it's design is stealthy. It also has to have high enough thrust level to supercruise. To do that it needs atleast 24000lbf dry thrust. So with an engine that has 19000lbf dry thrust it will stay as a very capable 4.5 to even 5th generation plane akin to F35 which also can't sustain supercruise.
The TF35K engine being developed will have many attributes that will put it in to a stealthy engine class. So it is not logical for TEI to develop such an engine with low dry thrust.

When it comes to TF6000; it is a bit of a dilemma as TEI shared a picture of the engine they are building ; and it is TF10000. Not TF6000.
This brings to mind the possibility of using it on supersonic version of KE.
We are anxiously awaiting the first firing of this engine.

 

[Scott Summers]

Ukrainian Companies Ready to Provide Turkish Fighters with Engines

According to the diplomat, it is important for both Ukraine and Turkey to develop a mutually beneficial working model of cooperation, as well as restrictions in order to avoid entering of co-produced products to russia.

Ukrainian Companies Ready to Provide Turkish Fighters with Engines | Defense Express

Ukraine and Turkey continue cooperation even in context of the russia-Ukraine war. Ukrainian manufacturers participate in tenders to supply Turkish TAI KAAN fifth-generation fighter aircraft with engines

en.defence-ua.com

 

[B_A]

Ukrainian Companies Ready to Provide Turkish Fighters with Engines

According to the diplomat, it is important for both Ukraine and Turkey to develop a mutually beneficial working model of cooperation, as well as restrictions in order to avoid entering of co-produced products to russia.

Ukrainian Companies Ready to Provide Turkish Fighters with Engines | Defense Express

Ukraine and Turkey continue cooperation even in context of the russia-Ukraine war. Ukrainian manufacturers participate in tenders to supply Turkish TAI KAAN fifth-generation fighter aircraft with engines

en.defence-ua.com

What engine can they provide to KAAN?