TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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I agree A2G should be seconday concern. As the Air Force will have that covered with KE, ANKA-III and other drones in the inventory and possibly Armed Hürjet as well as the F-16 fleet.
Ability to speedily and stealthily carry 8 Tolun SDBs or 2 Mk-84 HGKs will always be important. I don't expect A2G role for Kaan to be put on the back burner.
 

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Those who lives in neighborhood near TAI facilities should have their cameras and çekirdek in order to witness a historical step on that day...
 

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I hope the final decision won’t happen like Hurkus-1 and Hurkus-2
 

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Korean would start soon,we should hurry up
So maybe instead of buying F16 or Eurofighter...just buy from korea.
Its the same latest 4.5 generation fighter and more stealthy too....Certainly less political problem than buying from european or american.
 

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There are many US components in the Korean aircraft, from the engine to the AESA radar, etc.
Here South Korea would get an export stop from the USA.

Either we then develop a much smaller KAAN, e.g. KAAN S from 2028/29, with a detailed canard design and single jet. Or we use the Russians e.g. the SU 35S modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc. then we would definitely be out of NATO, at the moment they still tolerate us even if we don't dance to their tune.

The second possibility would be the Pakistani JF17 Thunder modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc. but here it would not be an upgrade in the real sense, the JF17 is really a good aircraft for the money, but it is slightly below the performance of an F-16. Block 50+ and against Block 70+ /Block Özgur it would unfortunately be totally inferior.
The JF17 would have no chance against Greece or countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel & Co with F-16 Block 70 or Eurofighter Block 4, let alone against the F-35.
You would have to tune it up so much that you could develop a completely new aircraft right away.
 

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Korean aircraft contain many US components, from the engine to the AESA radar, etc.
Here South Korea would get an export ban from the USA.

Either we then develop a much smaller KAAN, e.g. KAAN S from 2028/29, with a Delta Canard design and with a single jet. Or we take a Russian fighter jet, e.g. the SU 35S, modified with Turkish software, fire control system & avionics etc.
But then we would definitely be out of NATO, at the moment they still tolerate us, even if we don't dance to their tune.

The second option would be the Pakistani JF17 Thunder, modified with Turkish software, fire control system and avionics etc, but here it would not be an upgrade in the true sense, the JF17 is really a good aircraft for the money, but it is slightly below the performance of an F-16. Block 50+ and against Block 70+ /Block Özgur it would unfortunately be completely inferior.
The JF17 would have no chance against Greece or countries like Saudi Arabia, Israel & Co with their F-16 Block 70 or Eurofighter Block 4, let alone against the F-35.
It would have to be optimized so much that a completely new aircraft could be developed with the money.
We definitely need another single jet fighter between the KAAN and the F-16.
Neither Hürjet nor Kizilelma/Anka 3 as a fighter aircraft can fill this gap.
 
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So maybe instead of buying F16 or Eurofighter...just buy from korea.
Its the same latest 4.5 generation fighter and more stealthy too....Certainly less political problem than buying from european or american.
Anything not on par with Greek's F-35s and American's F-22s is a no starter for Türkiye. They will just be shiny flying coffins, not fighter jets.
 

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TAI KAAN as a 5+ generation fighter would have to have an engine of at least 18000 lbf to remain competitive, in principle 80 kn dry and 36000 lbf 160 kn with an afterburner.
I don't know whether our engineers will be able to achieve this so easily in 6-8 years - that's a lot.
Is the TEI TF 6000 engine already installed in the Anka 3 prototype?
 

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TAI KAAN as a 5+ generation fighter would have to have an engine of at least 18000 lbf to remain competitive, in principle 80 kn dry and 36000 lbf 160 kn with an afterburner.
I don't know whether our engineers will be able to achieve this so easily in 6-8 years - that's a lot.
Is the TEI TF 6000 engine already installed in the Anka 3 prototype?

As far I know they use an ukrainian Engine, TF-6000 will be integrated later. I think also the serial Production Anka-3 will use the ukrainian Engine.
 

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