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Well every time we get this engine argument, which is not so valid IMHO.

5th gen general characteristics are:
- stealth
- internal bays
- sensor fusion
- AESA radar

So by characteristics Kaan is a 5th generation fighter jet. The Korean jet is stealth but has no internal bays, which classifies her as 4th generation
 

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Let s remember that we couldnt decided or produce any jet fighters in the whole 20th century.
 
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Well every time we get this engine argument, which is not so valid IMHO.

5th gen general characteristics are:
- stealth
- internal bays
- sensor fusion
- AESA radar

So by characteristics Kaan is a 5th generation fighter jet. The Korean jet is stealth but has no internal bays, which classifies her as 4th generation
And network-centric operational capability.
 

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"AESA tabanlı milli uçak radarı MURAD’ı, AKINCI İHA’ya ve jet uçağımıza entegre ettik,"

MURAD has been integrated to a jet aircraft and Akıncı.


"Milli Muharip Uçağımız KAAN pilotlarının havadaki gözü olacak TULGAR’ın ilk prototip üretimini tamamladık,"

First prototype of TULGAR HMD for KAAN was completed


"F16’larımız için geliştirdiğimiz IFF Birleşik Sorgulayıcı Cevaplayıcı teslimatını yaptık,"

Integrated IFF system deliveries for the F-16s are ongoing


"Milli Muharip Uçak haberleşme alt sistemi (ICNI) prototipinin tasarımını tamamladık ve teslimatını yaptık. "

Design, production and delivery of the first ICNI prototype for the KAAN was completed. ICNI consists of the communication and navigation systems of the aircraft like the DL, IFF, INS/GPS, TACAN etc
 

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I have said what @Kartal1 said in the past, and didn't want to repeat myself, so just made a short comment.

As long as it flies and can launch the munition we produce doesn't matter.

As of now it's not a 5th gen, so wake up, or remember to add "future versions" in your post when you want to mention KAAN as being anything else than 4 - 4.5 gen.

I think it's a turkish trait to forget current situation and get caught up in future prospect and talk as if it has been achieved.
 

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Can we expect some significant changes on Kaan on size or is this the final design?
 

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Dear Members,
This is the new home of KAAN now!
Please discuss ONLY KAAN related matters here.
 

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KAAN's inclusion of two sidebays for Bozdogan is a guarantee that it has at least two 25km range missiles at all times, since its larger than AIM9 X here's hoping we could make even longer range versions for those slots. My hope is internal weapons bay holds at least 6 Gokdogan but we will see. A2G is secondary concern
 

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KAAN's inclusion of two sidebays for Bozdogan is a guarantee that it has at least two 25km range missiles at all times, since its larger than AIM9 X here's hoping we could make even longer range versions for those slots. My hope is internal weapons bay holds at least 6 Gokdogan but we will see. A2G is secondary concern

I expect in stealth mode 2 WVR(Bozdogan)+6 BVR(Gökdogan/Gökhan). In beast mode it would probably carry, especially if Aselsan develops a triple rack for KAAN, 4 WVR+12 BVR. Couple that with a potent AESA Radars in that big nose and you have a deadly machine.

I agree A2G should be seconday concern. As the Air Force will have that covered with KE, ANKA-III and other drones in the inventory and possibly Armed Hürjet as well as the F-16 fleet.


Do we have any new info on first flight or the other prototypes?
 

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I agree A2G should be seconday concern. As the Air Force will have that covered with KE, ANKA-III and other drones in the inventory and possibly Armed Hürjet as well as the F-16 fleet.
Ability to speedily and stealthily carry 8 Tolun SDBs or 2 Mk-84 HGKs will always be important. I don't expect A2G role for Kaan to be put on the back burner.
 

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