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Let the USA and China kill each other off.

Better for Turkish interests.

Usa never gave a fck about Turkish national security why should Turkiye care about the storm brewing in the Pacific.

Could just not make such a statement and continue working on these goals. This is just advertising to a west that has a stronger hand that we are not as trustworthy or as committed to an alliance which is currently fractured anyway. But why show your hand unless there is something to show for it?

This is the gamble. Maybe something is cooking in central Asia.
 

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I dont like both parties either but if a US and China war happens, i hope the US wins.

I still prefer American products (clothes, cars, movies, hardware, software, snacks) above all the Chinese cheap and fake Ali Express crap.

They even paint their fruit to look fruitly and just produce vegetables from a plastic substance and sell it.
 

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Well if USA wants to fight China, firstly it would be logical to suck up to Russia. Instead of the Russian Army dying close to the German border, with half of the money spent in Ukraine, us could help Russians.
Reworked cruiser Moskva is lot more useful in Vladivostok than at the bottom of Black Sea.
Also by helping Russia and Turkey in the Central Asia and Afghanistan, China can be blocked effectively.
So how someone can make and implement any sort of the policy which has no much merit nor logic?
How someone can deal with someone, who think that you are a subhuman who must be grateful for being, literally his slave?
With few simple moves, Silk Road project is dead.
What they want? For Russia to splot into pieces and have Holly sodomite month? Turkey to split and render itself impotent in its area of interest and in return for all of that, Russia and Turkey to get pat on their shoulders? And those " enlightened " people to sit on the corner of some Geneva Hall and for that be rewarded by controlling me , how many toilet flashes I can do?
So for something like that, I need to keep my mouth shut and show my loyalty????
Maybe some people think that the merits are only valid when someone else acknowledge them.
I don't know how someone can think that, the sole policy of the State should be about every single whim of someone, if so at least, can it be stated what are those things that " noble alliance " wants and how it benefits to Turkey?
 

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the problem is people impart and assume a wholly excessive amount of rationality, planning, consistency and prescience on the part of any government, particularly the government of U.S. and its political institutions, when no such assumptions are borne out of nor the realities of culture, mentality or political acumen of the singular actors, neither their spuriously attributed supernatural collective wisdom.
 
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As statehood, democracy, jurisdiction and federal system the US is the best country in the world but the wrong people are in charge for almost a century.

If you want to gamble go to Las Vegas.
If you like gayporn go to San Francisco.
Go to Texas or Arizona to play cowboy or rodeo.
If you like the old French swamp village culture go to New Orleans.
Visit the Ku Klux Clan in Louisiana or Georgia.
Go sleep at the Indian Reservations in Colorado or Utah.
Go camping and hunt for bears or cougars in Kansas or Nebraska.
Travel trough the snow and mountains of Montana
For hiphop and action go to Los Angeles.
Live like Tony Montana on the beaches of Miami.
For every mafia movie visit New York.

Most beautiful country in the world.
 

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The americans, various western backers and zionist don't give two shits for the Kurds. For them they are just another collection of useful idiots, a means to an end. If they succeed in their plans, the day the zionist state reaches the borders of their manufactured pkkistan state they will simply invade it and annex them.

Same game the British played on them in world war, help us kill the Turks and we will give you a state. Once the Turks were defeated and no one in the region could oppose them, they simple annexed the lands for themselves. The Kurds then rebelled and Churchill ordered in his words that the uncivilised savages be gassed. After all no Turkish power left to oppose the crusaders, no way they give a shit for the Semites or the brown people of the middle east. And race is important here, not because were racist but because racism is an underlying ideology within the power structures of the western powers. Only yesterday they were open about it, now they hide it. But its there, always.

The people who will face the most suffering and destruction should their pkkistan project succeed is the Kurdish people themselves, why?

Lets say they carve it out of 4 states. To begin with there will be massive wars and conflicts to get to that point. Hundreds of thousands maybe millions of Kurds will die in the process. Once they get it, all Kurds in all 4 nations who have seen them betray the state and side with the americans/westerners to balkanise their lands will probably be expelled.

Then the surrounding nations will see the pkkistan as enemy number one, new rounds of wars will come. The americans will waste the kurds as cannon fodder, while all this happening the region will weaken and in the background the extremely racist and hostile isreali zionist state will be expanding. Once that isreali state reaches the point where she can even take land directly off Turkey, they will be at that point strong enough to annex the entire pkkistan state.

Kurds you must not fall for these tricks, they are setting you up to be destroyed in order that they can take everything for themselves. If you fall for their tricks they will use you to ruin all of us and in the process once they take over we will collectively turn into the new Palestinians. Where open genocides can be committed against us with no questions asked.
 

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Italy started to impose an arms embargo on Israel.
 

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They will fall for it as we can all see. So, what Türkiye needs are Nukes many of them. So if ever should the day come that Türkiye falls, then it will not fall alone. Nuke every Country many, many times over that had their hands in this game. Then they will think twice about it. Conventional weapons are not the answer here.

If we fail in the long run, then its 100% we will need such weapons to protect ourselves from the America. Arguably the single greatest threat to our sovereignty today.

However there is a flip side to all of these transgressions against our sovereignty, in each serious circumstance it basically caused Turkey to expand outwards. In cyprus they tried to wipe the Turks out and annex the island, now Turkey defacto owns half the island again. In the east med they played games to shut us in, now were back in libya. The armenians were making claims about a greater armenia and constantly attacking us internationally, today Turkic lands were liberated being the first frozen Russian conflict to be defeated and Turkey/Azerbaijan are more united then they have ever been.

Then finally the PKK, while they push to create a state its forced Turkey to re-enter old lands in syria and iraq.

So the more they attack us, the more trouble they cause for us, the more were expanding.

Even in Ukraine, the Russian invasion basically turned that nation into a strategic ally of ours and i suspect with the next 10 years you will see Turkish bases in the Ukraine.

Honestly if were to end up with another Turkish empire it will not be because we wanted it, it will be because they forced us to do it in order to survive. Every single expansionist move we have has been reactionary. If they didnt f'k with us we be happy within our borders.

And these transgressions also concern our domestic military industry, every time they embargoed us we came out stronger from it. 10 years ago they said to us no armed drones, because they didnt want to help us against the PKK terrorists. 10 years later we turned into the single largest drone exporter on earth. So keep it up Americans.
 

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If we fail in the long run, then its 100% we will need such weapons to protect ourselves from the America. Arguably the single greatest threat to our sovereignty today.

However there is a flip side to all of these transgressions against our sovereignty, in each serious circumstance it basically caused Turkey to expand outwards. In cyprus they tried to wipe the Turks out and annex the island, now Turkey defacto owns half the island again. In the east med they played games to shut us in, now were back in libya. The armenians were making claims about a greater armenia and constantly attacking us internationally, today Turkic lands were liberated being the first frozen Russian conflict to be defeated and Turkey/Azerbaijan are more united then they have ever been.

Then finally the PKK, while they push to create a state its forced Turkey to re-enter old lands in syria and iraq.

So the more they attack us, the more trouble they cause for us, the more were expanding.

Even in Ukraine, the Russian invasion basically turned that nation into a strategic ally of ours and i suspect with the next 10 years you will see Turkish bases in the Ukraine.

Honestly if were to end up with another Turkish empire it will not be because we wanted it, it will be because they forced us to do it in order to survive. Every single expansionist move we have has been reactionary. If they didnt f'k with us we be happy within our borders.

And these transgressions also concern our domestic military industry, every time they embargoed us we came out stronger from it. 10 years ago they said to us no armed drones, because they didnt want to help us against the PKK terrorists. 10 years later we turned into the single largest drone exporter on earth. So keep it up Americans.
Those bastards will all find out one day why Turks had more Empires than the avg. Joe can count. But it is of utmost importance that Türkiye INSIDE stays stable. So #1 don't bring in to many other races that don't really belong here. Sounds racist but I don't give 2 fucks.
 

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Jerusalem Post

Türkiye is preparing for economic sanctions against Tel Aviv.

Sanctions include removing Israel from Turkey's list of export countries.

This decision means that Turkey will stop supporting trade and withdraw its support to businesses operating with Israel.

It also sends a clear message to Turkish business owners that they will not be provided with state aid if they choose to do business with Israel.
 
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