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"Bahçeli announces support for Sweden's NATO membership"

"In practice, Turkey has already agreed to Sweden's membership of NATO because it did not object to Sweden's participation in the Steadfast Defender exercise, which is due to start in September, without confirmed membership. The Turkish parliament is due to vote on Sweden's ratification today."
 

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Lol Bahçeli behaved exactly like I expected. Such a good American apparatus. Shame on the government for allowing Sweden into NATO.
 

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Lol Bahçeli behaved exactly like I expected. Such a good American apparatus. Shame on the government for allowing Sweden into NATO.
We are a one man show nation. Every buddy and their mother knows that only one person makes the decisions in Turkiye. Who cares who says what nonsense. We know who the real decision maker is and what he supports. Unfortunately shaming them doesn’t make any difference
 

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"Bahçeli announces support for Sweden's NATO membership"

"In practice, Turkey has already agreed to Sweden's membership of NATO because it did not object to Sweden's participation in the Steadfast Defender exercise, which is due to start in September, without confirmed membership. The Turkish parliament is due to vote on Sweden's ratification today."
Live assembly.

 

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"Bahçeli announces support for Sweden's NATO membership"

"In practice, Turkey has already agreed to Sweden's membership of NATO because it did not object to Sweden's participation in the Steadfast Defender exercise, which is due to start in September, without confirmed membership. The Turkish parliament is due to vote on Sweden's ratification today."
Shame on the govt tbh

I do know that the Americans blackmailed them, but I wished that they would have endured a bit more
 

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Sweden's NATO accession feels unfortunately very much like the Branson priest affair. Lots of chest beatings and big talk to be followed by a mere fart in the end.
Disappointing to say the least.
 

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Now watch as US and all its catspaws walk back their promises, not give us f-16s, continue to support PKK, put on new arms embargos. These hyenas don't consider us equals. They barely count us as humans and even that's not really clear.

This is a travesty.
 

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See Turks thought they got rid of Ali Kemal but it turns out Turkish politicians all model themselves after him.
 

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Anyone whe defends this SHIT will have to explain what concrete concession we got from westoids. I'll tell you what, we got NOTHING. And now they got what they wanted, they'll just do "makas kesmiyor" kind of bullcrap to not give us anything they promised. CHP is also complicit in this.

Evet oyu veren vekillerin çoluğundan çocuğundan çıksın.
 

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Together Stronger!
NATO is Türkiye, Türkiye is NATO!
Don't insult our army!
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No way to Russian imperialism!
My congratulations.
Need to end this cold war between West and Türkiye. Our place is not in the Asia!

Sweden hasn't supported PKK dogs as much as Russians do ( USSR did)
 
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Someone needs to check on @Bogeyman and @Zafer to see if they’re ok ?😬😬 although I don’t want to judge too quickly because maybe they haven’t heard the news yet and that’s why they are not around 😎
There was not a point in holding Sweden out forever, if you are thinking it was possible than you are nuts.
 

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Even the Hungarian parliament has a more upright stance. Another thing is that we saw once again how the parties that voted against Akp on the declaration on martyrs or, for example, on the blue homeland/crossborder military issues, in order not to appear to be standing side by side with Akp, align behind Akp when it comes to NATO-Atlanticist issues. One of the most fundamental problems of this country is that we cannot break this Atlanticist structure. Turkish diplomacy took a heavy blow last night and it will take years to recover. If Hungary holds out until the US elections, we will have done this foolishness for nothing.
 
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No way to Russian imperialism!
My congratulations.
Need to end this cold war between West and Türkiye. Our place is not in the Asia!

Sweden hasn't supported PKK dogs as much as Russians do ( USSR did)
Üstad, this analogy is really inappropriate. We have no military alliance with Russia and we have a lot of conflict of interests indirectly from UKR to the Libya(where the special forces of the two countries have directly confronted each other). We also periodically hit Russian proxy units in the northern Aleppo region. Our type of relationship with Russia is not an alliance.

The problem is that while the source of our national security threats is increasingly coming from the support, strategy and imposition of NATO countries, we are both insensitive to this issue and opening the doors wide open to more and more countries that will increase this threat while we let in their biggest national security moves in the history for nothing. On the other hand, the main source of the problem is that we are still doing what the US says, while its regional policies on our national security are obvious and it does not take any step back, especially on pkk-ypg. This touches my blood! We have lost hundreds of people in recent years as a result of US policies, and if we continue with this mindset, we will continue to lose.
 

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Üstad, this analogy is really inappropriate. We have no military alliance with Russia and we have a lot of conflict of interests indirectly from UKR to the Libya(where the special forces of the two countries have directly confronted each other). We also periodically hit Russian proxy units in the northern Aleppo region. Our type of relationship with Russia is not an alliance.

The problem is that while the source of our national security threats is increasingly coming from the support, strategy and imposition of NATO countries, we are both insensitive to this issue and opening the doors wide open to more and more countries that will increase this threat while we let in their biggest national security moves in the history for nothing. On the other hand, the main source of the problem is that we are still doing what the US says, while its regional policies on our national security are obvious and it does not take any step back, especially on pkk-ypg. This touches my blood! We have lost hundreds of people in recent years as a result of US policies, and if we continue with this mindset, we will continue to lose.
Dear, Sweden NATO membership and YPG problem aren't connected. Unfortunately we have lost people not just because of US policies. PKK is supported by many countries.

Anyway long in short, Türkiye should keep balance between West and East. unfortunately the real life is cruel.

Welcoming Sweden in NATO will open new opportunities for Turkish economy and industry etc.
As i said together we stronger.
 

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Üstad, this analogy is really inappropriate. We have no military alliance with Russia and we have a lot of conflict of interests indirectly from UKR to the Libya(where the special forces of the two countries have directly confronted each other). We also periodically hit Russian proxy units in the northern Aleppo region. Our type of relationship with Russia is not an alliance.

The problem is that while the source of our national security threats is increasingly coming from the support, strategy and imposition of NATO countries, we are both insensitive to this issue and opening the doors wide open to more and more countries that will increase this threat while we let in their biggest national security moves in the history for nothing. On the other hand, the main source of the problem is that we are still doing what the US says, while its regional policies on our national security are obvious and it does not take any step back, especially on pkk-ypg. This touches my blood! We have lost hundreds of people in recent years as a result of US policies, and if we continue with this mindset, we will continue to lose.
Dear, Sweden NATO membership and YPG problem aren't connected. Unfortunately we have lost people not just because of US policies. PKK is supported by many countries.

Anyway long in short, Türkiye should keep balance between West and East. unfortunately the real life is cruel.

Welcoming Sweden in NATO will open new opportunities for Turkish economy and industry etc.
As i said together we stronger.
NATO is still good for Turkiye.

At least the west is still not directly united against Turkiye as long as we stay in NATO.

otherwise we will become the situation of Ottomans.If we leave , nato will become another Holy League against us.

Other organizations are still not as strong as NATO.
 
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