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Maldives moves to replace India, inks deal with Turkey for drones to patrol high seas


Maldives is among India’s key maritime neighbours & part of its ‘Neighbourhood First Policy’, but President Muizzu set a 15 March deadline for Indian military personnel to leave the island nation


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New Delhi: The new government in Maldives has signed a USD 37-million deal with Turkey to buy military drones that will patrol its high seas – a task so far done by India in partnership with the Maldivian defence forces.


The decision comes in the backdrop of President Mohamed Muizzu’s 15 March deadline for 77 Indian military personnel to leave the island nation. Muizzu came to power last September, riding on an anti-India rhetoric and ‘India out’ campaign.

Interestingly, the Indian officers stationed in Maldives were those who operated and maintained two Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters and a Dornier aircraft gifted to the Maldives National Defence Force (MNDF) by India, besides training the Maldivian military.
The helicopters were used for transport of patients from various islands of the archipelago nation to hospitals in Malé, which has saved over 500 lives till now. The Dornier carried out reconnaissance flights by the Maldivian military against suspicious ships, gun and narcotics trafficking.

These will now be replaced by Turkish drones – the likely candidate being the Aksungur drones which are used for maritime operations and surveillance.

Maldivian media Adhadhu reported that the money for the Turkish drones has been allocated from the state’s contingency budget. Quoting government sources, it said the Finance Ministry has already released part of the payment to the MNDF.

It added that under the agreement signed by the Maldives government with a company which supplies drones to the Turkish military, the money will be paid in instalments. According to the agreement, the payment for the transaction must be done within this year.

Turkey has been at the forefront of drone warfare and has emerged as one of the biggest exporters of drones, both armed and unarmed.

The two leading Turkish companies in drone manufacturing are Baykar Defense, owned by the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), owned by a Turkish military foundation.

Maldives is one of New Delhi’s key maritime neighbours in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and part of its ‘Neighbourhood First Policy’. But ties between Male and New Delhi have been strained ever since President Muizzu came to power last year.

The President, perceived to be “pro-China” broke precedent and went to Turkey as part of his first foreign visit instead of India. He has also made a state visit to China.

Under then-President Abdulla Yameen of the Progressive Party of Maldives (PPM), Male had signed a Comprehensive Action Plan for Defence in 2016 with New Delhi. When the lease for these helicopters expired in 2018, the Yameen government asked New Delhi to take them back.

However, after pro-India Ibrahim Mohamed Solih of the Maldivian Democratic Party came to power in September that year, these demands were revoked.




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Looks like Maldives and India got into some serious beef.

A New increasingly preferred combo for neutral countries. Türkiye for defense and China for development.
 

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India won't like that at all. India see Indian Ocean as their own backyard. Their navy has significantly improved its capabilities in recent years.
 

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India won't like that at all. India see Indian Ocean as their own backyard. Their navy has significantly improved its capabilities in recent years.
Eh, should have thought about that before supplying Armenia with MLRS and SAMs. Compared to those, TB2 at this range from India is only a coast guard bird.
 

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India won't like that at all. India see Indian Ocean as their own backyard. Their navy has significantly improved its capabilities in recent years.
As if we care a few more frigates and corvettes in the region when the chinese are sending destroyers, nuclear submarines and theoretically in future a fleet half our size to indian ocean.
 
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As if we care a few more frigates and corvettes in the region when the chinese are sending destroyers, nuclear submarines and theoretically in future a fleet half our size to indian ocean.
I'm talking entirely hypothethically, I don't see this happening at all really but just as a thought exercise, in a scenario where especially Turkey - Nato relations continue to sour, a Pakistan - China - Turkey joint naval taskforce in Indian ocean would shake the world a quite bit.
 

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I'm talking entirely hypothethically, I don't see this happening at all really but just as a thought exercise, in a scenario where especially Turkey - Nato relations continue to sour, a Pakistan - China - Turkey joint naval taskforce in Indian ocean would shake the world a quite bit.
The depth of Turkish pakistan relationship would always depend up on how Turkish China relationships are. Pakistan however i mock them have one trait of being crafty with their relationships and cutting them loose when it becomes a dead weight. US and them had a great relationship during the cold war but when GWOT happened they chose the side they benefitted greatly. Saudi arabia had massive influence on Pakistan with the religious angle, immigrant population but when they were asked to send troops to yemen they refused.The only one who they cannot defy are the Chinese who sold weapons, funded infrastructure and have a common enemy.Just put china in one end and turkey in the other an just have think who they will choose?
 

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Although this is to our advantage, I predict it to be probably short-lived as Maldives will come to learn the wisdom of Vajpayee when he said: "You can't choose your neighbors". A wisdom much lacking in Ukraine.
 

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Maldives moves to replace India, inks deal with Turkey for drones to patrol high seas


Maldives is among India’s key maritime neighbours & part of its ‘Neighbourhood First Policy’, but President Muizzu set a 15 March deadline for Indian military personnel to leave the island nation


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New Delhi: The new government in Maldives has signed a USD 37-million deal with Turkey to buy military drones that will patrol its high seas – a task so far done by India in partnership with the Maldivian defence forces.


The decision comes in the backdrop of President Mohamed Muizzu’s 15 March deadline for 77 Indian military personnel to leave the island nation. Muizzu came to power last September, riding on an anti-India rhetoric and ‘India out’ campaign.

Interestingly, the Indian officers stationed in Maldives were those who operated and maintained two Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters and a Dornier aircraft gifted to the Maldives National Defence Force (MNDF) by India, besides training the Maldivian military.
The helicopters were used for transport of patients from various islands of the archipelago nation to hospitals in Malé, which has saved over 500 lives till now. The Dornier carried out reconnaissance flights by the Maldivian military against suspicious ships, gun and narcotics trafficking.

These will now be replaced by Turkish drones – the likely candidate being the Aksungur drones which are used for maritime operations and surveillance.

Maldivian media Adhadhu reported that the money for the Turkish drones has been allocated from the state’s contingency budget. Quoting government sources, it said the Finance Ministry has already released part of the payment to the MNDF.

It added that under the agreement signed by the Maldives government with a company which supplies drones to the Turkish military, the money will be paid in instalments. According to the agreement, the payment for the transaction must be done within this year.

Turkey has been at the forefront of drone warfare and has emerged as one of the biggest exporters of drones, both armed and unarmed.

The two leading Turkish companies in drone manufacturing are Baykar Defense, owned by the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), owned by a Turkish military foundation.

Maldives is one of New Delhi’s key maritime neighbours in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and part of its ‘Neighbourhood First Policy’. But ties between Male and New Delhi have been strained ever since President Muizzu came to power last year.

The President, perceived to be “pro-China” broke precedent and went to Turkey as part of his first foreign visit instead of India. He has also made a state visit to China.

Under then-President Abdulla Yameen of the Progressive Party of Maldives (PPM), Male had signed a Comprehensive Action Plan for Defence in 2016 with New Delhi. When the lease for these helicopters expired in 2018, the Yameen government asked New Delhi to take them back.

However, after pro-India Ibrahim Mohamed Solih of the Maldivian Democratic Party came to power in September that year, these demands were revoked.




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Trivia: Today's Sri Lanka, Maldives, Afghanistan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Comoros, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa, West Turkistan Khanates (Khiva, Bukhara and Hokand Khanates), East Turkistan (west of China), Umman, Morocco, almost all sub-Saharan Africa and many many more region have recognized the Turkish state as the head of the muslims for more than 4 centuries, some continuously and some at different periods.

One of the issues overshadowed in Ottoman history is its soft power over the countries of the Indian Ocean. The Ottomans supported both East Africa and the South Asian khanates and sultanates against Portuguese and Latin invasion. One of the most glorious of these sultanates, the sultanate of Aceh, was officially a protectorate of the Ottoman Empire while it struggled for a long time against the Portuguese and later the Dutch until it lost its sovereignty. The Ottomans lost the upper hand to the Portuguese on the Mozambique-Somalia line in the early 17th century, and support for the Sultanate of Aceh weakened in the 18th century. At the same time, the Russians began to increase their influence in Central Asia and, as the Ottoman power weakened, began to invade these khanates one by one.

Long story short, when the Turks were strong, they protected the northern peoples from the Russian threat and the southern peoples from the Latin reqonquista spreading to Africa and European colonialism reaching South Asia and East Africa long before what is now written in history books. In a sense, it delayed the flow of history in favor of the West by about 400-500 years. Whether we like it or not, whether we embrace it or discard it, it is our past. As the Turkish state grows stronger, even if we do not remember this past, past enemies will. If you look at the codes and the message of the news you shared that the president of Maldives made his first visit to TR, you will better understand what I mean.
 

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Long story short, when the Turks were strong, they protected the northern peoples from the Russian threat and the southern peoples from the Latin reqonquista spreading to Africa and European colonialism reaching South Asia and East Africa long before what is now written in history books. In a sense, it delayed the flow of history in favor of the West by about 400-500 years.

I personally came to the some conclusion. You take the Turk/Mongol warriors out the picture and the westerner probably would have looked to conquer much of Asia Africa starting around a thousand years ago. As the Turks weakened the collective west ended up conquering most of the world.

Had the various Turk empires not warred with each other, i suspect we would have conquered it instead. Take the Russians who were the slaves of the goldern horde in the 15th century, it was only once timer declared war on them and crushed them that they were able to break free from Turk dominion.

The Ottomans were never really able to use entire their might against Europe because they always needed soldiers to protect the eastern frontiers against the Turk Safavid empire, which on an individual level was stronger then any individual European power up until probably the 18th century.
 
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Trivia: Today's Sri Lanka, Maldives, Afghanistan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Comoros, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa, West Turkistan Khanates (Khiva, Bukhara and Hokand Khanates), East Turkistan (west of China), Umman, Morocco, almost all sub-Saharan Africa and many many more region have recognized the Turkish state as the head of the muslims for more than 4 centuries, some continuously and some at different periods.

One of the issues overshadowed in Ottoman history is its soft power over the countries of the Indian Ocean. The Ottomans supported both East Africa and the South Asian khanates and sultanates against Portuguese and Latin invasion. One of the most glorious of these sultanates, the sultanate of Aceh, was officially a protectorate of the Ottoman Empire while it struggled for a long time against the Portuguese and later the Dutch until it lost its sovereignty. The Ottomans lost the upper hand to the Portuguese on the Mozambique-Somalia line in the early 17th century, and support for the Sultanate of Aceh weakened in the 18th century. At the same time, the Russians began to increase their influence in Central Asia and, as the Ottoman power weakened, began to invade these khanates one by one.

Long story short, when the Turks were strong, they protected the northern peoples from the Russian threat and the southern peoples from the Latin reqonquista spreading to Africa and European colonialism reaching South Asia and East Africa long before what is now written in history books. In a sense, it delayed the flow of history in favor of the West by about 400-500 years. Whether we like it or not, whether we embrace it or discard it, it is our past. As the Turkish state grows stronger, even if we do not remember this past, past enemies will. If you look at the codes and the message of the news you shared that the president of Maldives made his first visit to TR, you will better understand what I mean.

The Ottomans are our ancestors and our history, without the Ottomans there was no Turkish Republic.

Even our enemies cant let go our Ottoman past. They still see us as the filthy barbaric Ottoman, no matter how much Western clothes we wear or how much Western music we hear.
 

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The Ottomans are our ancestors and our history, without the Ottomans there was no Turkish Republic.

Even our enemies cant let go our Ottoman past. They still see us as the filthy barbaric Ottoman, no matter how much Western clothes we wear or how much Western music we hear.

“Even if you forget you're a Turk, your enemy will not.”
 

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I personally came to the some conclusion. You take the Turk/Mongol warriors out the picture and the westerner probably would have looked to conquer much of Asia Africa starting around a thousand years ago. As the Turks weakened the collective west ended up conquering most of the world.

Had the various Turk empires not warred with each other, i suspect we would have conquered it instead. Take the Russians who were the slaves of the goldern horde in the 15th century, it was only once timer declared war on them and crushed them that they were able to break free from Turk dominion.

The Ottomans were never really able to use entire their might against Europe because they always needed soldiers to protect the eastern frontiers against the Turk Safavid empire, which on an individual level was stronger then any individual European power up until probably the 18th century.
Ottoman Empire and also we can add the the Mughals that accompanied it for a significant part of its history; these two states were the two superpowers of the world within the Islamic geography, the eastern and western walls of the world at the very time when European colonization began. Both economically and militarily. The Ottomans, unlike the Mughals, despite having an incomparable population disadvantage, fought for almost two centuries only against alliances. In other words, only when three or four states could come together did they dare to threaten Ottoman interests. These two empires spread their syntheses, but more importantly they protected Islamic communities far away from their own people, even oppressed peoples in need. In every corner of Africa you can find traces of the Ottomans, in the depths of Siberia, in the Philippines, even in the Baltic, in Ireland, in european towns, there are hundreds of historical anecdotes still buried under the sediment of history and forgotten.

When this state weakened, became corrupt in one way or another, or faced internal problems and eventual collapse, probably one of the most important vacuums in the history of the world happened, the entire Islamic geography and the African continent and significant part of Asian continent lost its sovereignty in less than two centuries. Perhaps most of the active battlegrounds of the interests that still rage today are still being fought within the 16th-20th century Ottoman borders and hinterland. No one can escape their past... Every part of the Ottoman hinterland has a natural connection with the Republic of Turkiye, which is both the official and cultural successor of that state. This is felt even if you don't say anything, even if you don't hear anything. This is a consequence of the past that we cannot escape. What I want to say here is not delusions about the resurrection of an empire, but how the longing for a just and common order in the spirit of the times is intertwined with the ghosts of the past. As the Turkish state regains its strength and breaks out of its shell, this will find echoes in distant geographies that we could never have imagined.
 

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