TEI will be on the production side of things.
as if it is just a regular company who will be just on "production side of things"
It is really so simple so downgrade TEI's job in a single line. They are the "only company" who can design, manufacture, assemble an engine, a turbine, a turbojet, a turbo shaft. Second comer is Kale.
TRmotor will be the IP holder shell company; designing the engine and managing the project.
The problem emerges here, we still don't know why RR is unrest, is it BMC (owned by Qatari in majority) gets a share on IP rights, SSB or TAI which is in a JV with GE in TEI. Especially it is not viewed good when BMC suddenly is the main actor who will manage the IP rights, even though those are granted to SSB, yet still BMC would have rights or a say the engine, or the knowledge and critical tech of it in the other way around by its manager position in TRMotor.
Note that, UK has no issues with aiding TF-X project which is conducted by TAI where BMC is not involved.
Also note, TRMotor is owned by BMC by %55 ,which is majority of the shares. Guess this example reveals the true matter? Isn't the aircraft itself is a critical tech or valuable know-how as much as the engine?
It took Kale many years to develop KTJ, yet a simple turbojet engine, they have gained enough experience but we are talking about a turbofan for TRMotor, It is obvious how many years we have wasted on Kale so that they can gain experience and meet the requirements, on what is rather simple compared to Turbofan.
Will we wait decades until BMC gains knowledge on Turbofans and watch them-and ignoring them ditching engineers from TEI-TAI-Kale-Alp and watch other critical projects get crippled, so that a freshly founded,stepped in engine business god knows who company gets into the jet engine business?
British engine maker Rolls-Royce has scaled back efforts to join a Turkish programme to build a new fighter jet, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.
Talks between Turkey’s Kale Group and Rolls-Royce, ran into problems last year because of a dispute over the sharing of intellectual property and the involvement of a Qatari-Turkish company, according to the FT report.
Rolls-Royce has all but abandoned efforts to win the bid for the fifth generation fighter aircraft after failing to find a compromise, FT added, citing people familiar with the matter.
In 2017 Kale Group said it would set up a joint venture with Rolls-Royce to develop aircraft engines after Britain and Turkey signed a defence deal worth more than 100 million pounds ($133 million) to develop Turkish fighter jets.
Last year Turkish Defence Industry Director Ismail Demir said the door remained open for international engine makers to get involved in Turkey’s TF-X national fighter jet project.
Rolls-Royce did not respond immediately to a request for comment and Kale Group could not be reached for comment.
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I'm not very sure on if BMC had not been part of the project, RR would agree. To my knowledge SSB wants to own all the IP rights of the engine. However, RR has problem with that.
I think, SSB is on right course. If we are designing an engine from scratch, we should own all the IP rights, incase we have problems with UK in the future. However, this project should be given to TEI. They proved themselves with TS1400 engine. Real zero to hero situation. It was just a signed paper 5 years ago and we are putting it on a real helicopter. Compare this feat with KaleAero's failure with KTJ3200. Also, Ethem Sancak should look somewhere else to make money. Maybe, Treasury can sell him some land for cheap so that he leaves our engine programs alone.
If it accelerates the progress and reduces the development cost , i don't see any issues with an engine with joint IP rights developed first, with the know-how gained, later we can move on a fully indigenous platform with IP rights owned.
I still believe the major issue is BMC's majority in TRMotor. It doesn't really smell good when a company owns majority of a JV and especially when ,it is the company which the jet engine knowledge and ToT is destined to, and when it is pretty new in engine business without any background and owned by Qatar (armed forces, lets note engine branch of BMC was managed by a Qatari so he will probably have a say in TRMotor).
It might be that SSB, which regulates-oversees TF-X project has request engine manufacturer (in here JV of KALE-RR) to deliver IP rights, knowledge etc to TRMotor. The background is know too little,but there has been official saying of TRMotor would be the hub of various engine types where knowledge and rights collected. Even though it is said that SSTEK (SSB's company) would hold the rights of engines in TRMotor, for the known reason of company profile it might have been doubted, and not assured by SSB.
