TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[fushkee]

I’m still thinking many things about this bird. Ram painting, titanium body, dog fight capabilities, etc.
or else it will treat like shaped Akinci UAV??

 

[Huelague]

Kizilelma doesn't looks matures to be honest. More like a prototype.

 

[Kartal1]

Rediculus. TAI has so far failed to bring it's projects to a mass manufacturing state. Anka, Anka II, Hurkus, T-625 etc., are all produced in low volume or not serial produced at all.

TAI is a R&D organization and they have a really hard time to transform into a serial production organization.

As the days pass by and the circus at TAI becomes more evident, it is clear that Baykar is the only prime Turkish aviation company. I am really worried for Hurjet and KAAN as well.

A ridiculous statement...

 

[uçuyorum]

I mean first block of KE doesn't have to do everything. If it does the same stuff TB2 does but fly faster and carry higher payload, and have higher survivability, that alone is a great capability. Once you add radar with sar and a2a capabilities alongside some a2a missiles, it's gonna be a different beast, several years later.

A bit of the same goes for Anka 3, but that is meant to be much stealthier and have higher endurance, which will make it more strategic.

 

[Quasar]

I guess we should accept the fact that future upgrades to Kızılelma is inevitable...hard to talk about a mature or final product... operational KIZILELMA is an entrance to uncharted territory...

concerning the near future for now ı am curious about three issues

-what sort of assets for KIZILELMA will evolve for increasing survivability i.e self protection suits

-current and future Data link capabilties... for instance lets say what connection currently exists between a peace eagle and Kızılelma

-a future air refueiling capability

 

[Zafer]

Haluk Bayraktar spoke to the Capital Magazine for their June 2024 issue.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796798840982376752

 

[No Name]

Has there been any news of tests of KIZILELMA's AI against human pilots, similar to what the US does to train its AI?

 

[Samba]

Has there been any news of tests of KIZILELMA's AI against human pilots, similar to what the US does to train its AI?

I am not sure KE has such capability. Autonomous flight is something different and basic compared to AI piloting.

 

[Boykaz]

Kızılelma new prototype

 

[Zafer]

I am not sure KE has such capability. Autonomous flight is something different and basic compared to AI piloting.

Kızılelma of today is to be different from KE to come 4 years later. Every iteration will add new capabilities over the years and at some point it will probably surpass manned planes in many ways.

 

[Huelague]

Kızılelma new prototype View attachment 68869

Is this Aziz Sancar?

 

[Boykaz]

Is this Aziz Sancar?

Yes

 

[Zafer]

Indonesian Army delegation's visit to Baykar, Akıncı seems to be going to fly far this time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805328629447983266

 

[Yasar_TR]

TB3 SİHA Yerli motor ile irtifa rekoru kırdı!

Türkiye'nin önde gelen savunma ve havacılık şirketlerinden Baykar, Bayraktar TB3 İHA'sının yerli motoruyla gerçekleştirdiği son uçuşunu başarıyla tamamladı.

www.defenceturk.net

TB3 has surpassed its own previous altitude records by achieving to fly at an altitude of 36310ft at its 55th test flight. TEI’s PD-170 engine is behind the success of this new drone.
It already has been integrated with the latest Aselflir-500 electro-optical sight and targeting system which allows it to have superior “eyesight”.

It has already shown it can take off from ski lifts. The length of runway used during the test has not been released. But if it is to take off from TCG Anadolu, it has to be well under 200metres. (TCG Anadolu’s total length is 232metres. But has a recess at the back and a lift. These shorten usable runway). However it is the landing that is most critical as it has to stop under 150m whilst clearing the lift at the back.
Although I see the use of TB3 from TCG Anadolu as a very difficult job to achieve, it is going to make a big impact in it’s self defence and attacking posture, so much so that it will be a game changer addition to this currently under defended assault ship.

https://baykartech.com/en/press/bayraktar-tb3-passes-first-ski-jump-test-with-flying-colors/

 

[uçuyorum]

Well the good thing is TB3 can fly for a long while so if just a couple can take off, they won't have to land for a long while, simplifying the operation. Less frequent take off and landing, fewer accidents

 

[Sanchez]

Well the good thing is TB3 can fly for a long while so if just a couple can take off, they won't have to land for a long while, simplifying the operation. Less frequent take off and landing, fewer accidents

Simply sending out two TB3s to circle around is one thing. Actual sortie generation is another thing, if we’re talking about naval platforms.

 

[uçuyorum]

Simply sending out two TB3s to circle around is one thing. Actual sortie generation is another thing, if we’re talking about naval platforms.

Well TB3 is slow and Anadolu isn't really an AC so don't think it would make sense to design it with lots of serial sorties doing bombardment. If you calculate the max number or weight of payload delivered per hour with repeated sorties, it's never gonna get close to real fighters from AC. Would make more sense to use TB3 for targeting of long range missiles and maybe kamikaze drones

 

[YeşilVatan]

I have been thinking about a concept that goes like this;

Modern warships have this problem where when you pack them full of missiles, they become precious targets and they have to go back to a dock. These two problems can be overcome, I believe, with extensive use of USVs. Of course, this is not really an option in deep ocean, but neither Mediterranean nor the Red Sea qualifies as oceans, do they.

So UAVs out of Anadolu do ISR and EW, while slightly larger USVs act as mobile VLS carriers and nothing else. Some other USVs act like land based anti air batteries, in a layered fashion. While others do ASW. Maybe even dedicated USVs for EW, too. There may even be USVs that can be used for cheap shore bombardment en masse, striking closer land targets acquired by UAVs. In essence, this allows command & control of a large and dispersed force from one command center. You acquire, classify and nuetralize targets. This is what TSK did in operation Spring Shield, adapted to naval warfare.

In the future, a VTOL capable long endurance UAV with similar specs to TB3 will allow ships without runways to fulfill this role in the future, too. You disperse command and control to 3-5 frigates in that way therefore mitigating risk.

This is more or less useless against a competent air force. Then you need 5th gen aircraft taking off from carriers. But when the enemy is an "eastern style" force, like Haftar's militia, Hezbollah or SAA, this might actually work.

 

[Kaan Azman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807460266927374746

ASELSAN has probably broken a record in UAV equipment field with the most diverse arsenal of UAV EW systems. There are also unlisted ones which wouldn't fit in the infographic like AKINCI SOJ's other variant.

 

[Radko]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1808583626616868931

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