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Can you send your sources for such claims?
Mine came from the mouth of the Turkish minister of defense himself!!

Let me post the script for you👇👇
Turkish Defence Minister Nurettin Canikli has accused Israel of selling Ankara defective drones in a 2005 deal which affecting the country’s campaign against Kurdish militias in Iraq.

Canikli made the statements in an interview with Turkish newspaper Yeni Şafak, referring to ten Heron-model UAVs sold by Israeli Aerospace Industries (IAI) to Turkey as part of a $190 million deal signed in 2005. The deal is already a contentious issue, as Turkey had initially accused Israel of failing to provide spare parts alongside the equipment.

In 2008, Turkey froze the deal in protest of Israel’s bombing campaign in the Gaza Strip. The drones were finally delivered to Ankara in 2010.

“We paid many dollars for them, but we have never been able to effectively make use of them,” Canikli told the paper. “They [Israel] did it on purpose, so that we cannot use them. Israeli engineers sabotaged the intelligence systems of the drone. Afterwards we realized that we bombed rocks and most of the targets were missed.”

IAI released a statement denying the charges, terming them “delusional and deserve no response”.

Here is the source👇

These sources also works as a proof on how long the Israelis have been supporting the kurds against Turkey with blatant disregard to Turkish interests even when the relations were good back in 2005.

Israel, regardless of the narrative they take, will always view Turkey as an enemy! For the Zionists to be happy, they need to feel that they are the supreme power in the region and Turkey (in their eyes) is a pain in the ass towards such an ambition
Of course.

this is from Batman, in 2018

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These are from Batman again, in 2021.


Politicians lie for a living.
 

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I don't know this is the appropriate thread to post this, but it suprisingly fair article from Jerusalem Post on Cyprus.

The Cyprus crisis and Turkish invasion of 1974 - 50 years on​

The Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 was a pivotal event in the island's history, rooted in long-standing ethnic tensions and geopolitical rivalries.​

By ALEX WINSTONJULY 14, 2024 12:34
Updated: JULY 14, 2024 13:07

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis met last week on the sidelines of the NATO Summit in Washington, D.C.

The two discussed the bilateral relations between Türkiye and Greece and Erdoğan emphasized Turkey's ongoing commitment to fostering a spirit of solidarity with Greece grounded in good neighborly relations, expressing that these efforts will continue to strengthen.

However, good neighborly relations have been difficult to come by over the years between the two Mediterranean neighbors.

Saturday, July 20, marks 50 years since the Turkish invasion of the island of Cyprus, the ripples of which are still being felt today. The precursor to the invasion was a Greek-engineered coup d’etat on July 15.The Turkish invasion of Cyprus, also known as the Cyprus Crisis of 1974, was a complex conflict with historical roots and significant geopolitical implications for the Mediterranean arena.

The conflict in Cyprus can trace its roots back to the island's diverse population and colonial history. Cyprus, located in the eastern Mediterranean, has a population comprising primarily Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. The island was under Ottoman rule from 1571 until 1878 when it came under British administration. Cyprus then remained a British colony until gaining independence in 1960 and British Army bases still dot the island. The constitution established a power-sharing arrangement between the Greek Cypriot majority and the Turkish Cypriot minority, but tensions soon emerged.


The Greek Cypriots, led by Archbishop Makarios, aspired to “Enosis”, or union with Greece, while the Turkish Cypriots, fearing marginalization, advocated for “Taksim”, or partition, of the island to ensure their security. These conflicting aspirations fueled communal strife and violence throughout the 1960s, leading to the establishment of United Nations peacekeeping forces in 1964.

The catalyst for the Turkish invasion​

The immediate catalyst for the Turkish invasion was a coup d'état on July 15, 1974, orchestrated by the Greek military junta and the Cypriot National Guard. The coup aimed to overthrow President Makarios and achieve Enosis with Greece. The coup installed Nikos Sampson, a pro-Enosis hardliner, as the new leader of Cyprus. This move alarmed the Turkish government, which feared for the safety of the Turkish Cypriot community.

On July 20, 1974, Turkey launched Operation Atilla, a military intervention justified under the Treaty of Guarantee, which allowed Greece, Turkey, and the United Kingdom to intervene in Cyprus to restore constitutional order.

During the Cyprus Crisis, the Turkish military demonstrated its superiority through its well-coordinated invasion. The operation, known as "Operation Attila," involved a large-scale amphibious landing on the northern coast of Cyprus, supported by air and naval forces. Turkish paratroopers and infantry quickly established beachheads, despite facing resistance from Greek Cypriot and Greek forces.

The Greek and Greek Cypriot forces, although brave and determined, were ultimately overwhelmed by the superior numbers and firepower of the Turkish military. The Turkish forces secured key strategic locations, including the port city of Kyrenia and the Nicosia International Airport, effectively dividing the island.

The Crisis highlighted the significant military imbalance between Turkey and Greece at the time. Turkey's larger and better-equipped military force enabled it to execute a successful invasion and secure a strategic foothold in Cyprus.

Despite a ceasefire agreement on July 22, hostilities resumed, and by August 14, Turkish forces had secured approximately 37% of the island, effectively partitioning Cyprus along the Green Line, which remains the de facto border today.

The Turkish invasion led to significant displacement, with around 200,000 Greek Cypriots fleeing to the south and 50,000 Turkish Cypriots moving to the north. The conflict resulted in substantial loss of life and widespread destruction. A new political reality emerged with the establishment of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) in 1983, recognized only by Turkey.

The invasion and subsequent partition of Cyprus have had enduring consequences. The United Nations continues to maintain a peacekeeping force in Cyprus, and numerous rounds of negotiations have aimed to reunify the island, with varying degrees of success. The Annan Plan of 2004, a United Nations proposal for reunification, was accepted by Turkish Cypriots but rejected by Greek Cypriots in a referendum, illustrating the ongoing mistrust and divergent aspirations of the two communities.

To this day, in the island’s capital of Nicosia, one can see walls and border posts dividing the city into two.

The Cyprus conflict has left deep scars on the island and its people. The division of Cyprus has hindered economic development, perpetuated communal mistrust, and complicated the island's international relations. The Republic of Cyprus, representing the Greek Cypriot south, joined the European Union in 2004, but the acquis communautaire, the body of EU law, is suspended in the North due to the lack of a final settlement to the war.

Celebrations commemorating Turkey’s invasion within Turkey have been condemned by the Greek government - according to Turkish media reports an aircraft carrier along with some 50 naval ships will sail to Cyprus on July 20. Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis will be attending commemorative events, including memorial services, on the same day in the Greek part of Cyprus.

Efforts to resolve the Cyprus issue continue, with periodic talks brokered by the United Nations and other international actors. However, the path to reconciliation remains fraught with challenges, including property disputes, security concerns, and divergent national narratives.

The Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 was a pivotal event in the island's history, rooted in long-standing ethnic tensions and geopolitical rivalries. The invasion resulted in the partition of Cyprus, creating a legacy of division that persists to this day. Despite numerous attempts at reconciliation, a lasting resolution to the Cyprus conflict remains elusive, underscoring the complexities of addressing historical grievances and achieving peace.


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President Erdogan:

Turkiye; It is a country that cannot be compressed into a single bloc due to its geographical, human, economic and historical ties.

We do not allow anyone to confine us to their own narrow patterns. We neither turn our backs on the East for the sake of the West nor neglect the West for the sake of the East.

 

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I thought it was Russia that would bring the uranium and return the waste at the end 🤔
 

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Contrary to all the rethoric and discourse, the fact is Custom Union with EU has been benefical we simply cant deny it .... İf joining BRICS will bring any economic benefits why not, since major players like China and Russia have very advantages economic relation with us... but I doupt it I mean I doupt that it will be really beneficial for us. Concerning cultural code we belong to Turkic Union and muasır medeniyet - contemporary civilization:devilish: but sure this should be not a reason to neglect Africa or any influence area newly appering or coming from our past Yet we should embrace the fact that we are TURK.

And we will continue to be a NATO member for quite a while:devilish:
 
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I thought it was Russia that would bring the uranium and return the waste at the end 🤔
That is true for the Akkuyu NPP; however, aside from Akkuyu, Turkey plans to build 2 more with foreign nations's help and presumably 2 more (according to rumors) by completely domestic means within the next 30 years. Therefore, it is compketely understandable if Turkey wants to diverse its Uranium sources especially if it can be bought faster, cheaper, and with guarantees since Russia is still a geopolitical rival at the end of day

Niger needs Turkish expertise and tech which comes with no strings attached while Turkey needs Niger's Uranium without any strings attached
 

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Turkish Mining companies will be given previliges compared to other nations when it comes to mining resources in Niger. Turkish soft and hard power are on a full sprint these days

Translation:
WHEN THE OWNER RETURNED, THE COLONISTS STARTED TO ESCAPE RUSH! Having reached an agreement with Türkiye, Niger also showed the door to Canada!

BBC NEWS AFRICA:
Niger awarded lucrative mining tender to Turkey

July 19, 2024 In the new mining agreement signed between Niger and Turkey, it is envisaged that "all opportunities will be given" to Turkish companies interested in the mining sector of the Sahel country.

Until recently, France was one of the main players in Niger's mining sector. But since the coup last June, Niger has become increasingly anti-Western, and the country has put an end to Western-linked economic projects.

Earlier this month, Canadian company GoviEx Uranium also lost its mining rights.

 

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Türkiye is zero in aviation... We can suddenly come to Ankara with F35s one night!

Greek Minister of Health Adonis Georgiadis said in a television program he attended, "With F-35s, we could be in Ankara one night without being detected by the radar." Speaking to Open TV channel, Georgiadis touched upon the statements of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

"The phrase 'We can come suddenly at night' makes me laugh. However, we can go to Turkey suddenly at night with F-35s. You saw what happened in Yemen. If you have F-35s that cannot be detected by radar, we can suddenly come to Ankara at night, like that." "We do something, we don't want to do it, but what Erdogan says makes me laugh. How can Turkey come to Greece overnight? Turkey is a complete zero in aviation," he said.




I wonder what the Greek Defense Minister thinks about Türkiye ...healthcare? :)
 

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Türkiye is zero in aviation... We can suddenly come to Ankara with F35s one night!

Greek Minister of Health Adonis Georgiadis said in a television program he attended, "With F-35s, we could be in Ankara one night without being detected by the radar." Speaking to Open TV channel, Georgiadis touched upon the statements of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

"The phrase 'We can come suddenly at night' makes me laugh. However, we can go to Turkey suddenly at night with F-35s. You saw what happened in Yemen. If you have F-35s that cannot be detected by radar, we can suddenly come to Ankara at night, like that." "We do something, we don't want to do it, but what Erdogan says makes me laugh. How can Turkey come to Greece overnight? Turkey is a complete zero in aviation," he said.




I wonder what the Greek Defense Minister thinks about Türkiye ...healthcare? :)
From a pure military perspective, these F-35 must be supported by other systems in order to make it to Ankara and RTB safely. Greece do not posses these systems.

Other than that in such a provocation in the 2030-2035 they will have to face a matured defence industry and military forces that will most probably have the capabilities to level Greece's military and economic potential with the ground in a matter of days before anyone even haves the time to decide if he should intervene, let alone intervene in a practical way.

Of course nobody wants this, but if needed, the Turkish Armed Forces have and will have the capabilities to give the necessary response to such aggression appropriately.
 

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If there was such thing as a wonder weapon.

The Germans would have won Ww2.

Greeks are treating the F35 like some wonder weapon that tilts the scales to their favours.

But warfare is more than 1 single weapon system.

These childish bullshit is also among our people too remember our own S400 fanboys.
 
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