TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Radko]

Good observation. AI-322-30F is really new. (2016)

It also has higher thrust. (6600 dry thrust and 11000 wet thrust.)

Though, the main question is, the generators that would power avionics and sensor package. How many KW they can produce?

thats up to Baykar or supplier they choose. I guess Volt Teknoloji if they dont go in-house.

 

[UkroTurk]

Is Stiletto coming?

 

[UkroTurk]

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1485756736929624064

Could one AI-322-30F lift HÜRJET?
5000kgf equal to 49kN with afterburner?

İmagine two of these monsters on the Hürjet or on the manned KE! 60kN military power and 100kN afterburner!!

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AI -9500F would be great if the engine were tangible.

Could you fit into Hürjet? Seems too long?
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There are images of twin engine TX but too late

Looks very similar to KE!!
Baykar aims a manned Fighter?

 

[Sanchez]

Looks very similar to KE!!
Baykar aims a manned Fighter?

Engine is usually one of the biggest parts of forcing a design to look a certain way.

I really doubt Baykar is thinking about building a manned aircraft in the future. It's different that everything they know and are used to with much, much thinner margins for error, harder to make money with and would steal resources from their actual goals of an unmanned future.

 

[boredaf]

Bayraktar #KIZILELMA PT-3

Engine Run and Takeoff Roll Tests

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1823255387270766788

I swear nobody teased as much as Baykar have done in this last year or two since my high school girlfriends. Please, I'm begging for some weapons integration and testing videos Baykar, stop teasing us.

 

[TheInsider]

Hürkuş II cameo appearance @0:30

 

[Boykaz]

The smoother surface finish compared to the Kızılelma is indicative of TUSAŞ's high manufacturing standards."

 

[Sanchez]

She looks awesome. Look at all those protruding antennas and sensors and the LOS antenna. Got years of development ahead of it to be a true very low observable flying wing. Such a hard task at hand.

Hürkuş II cameo appearance @0:30

Really doubt it, they won't use a prototype as a chase plane.

 

[Sanchez]

No. TAI built this prototype to test a technology, which is new to them, namely a flying wing. That prototype does not even have an IWB and they use stuff from previous ANKA / AKSUNGUR projects. There is no purpose right now to make this prototype a

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IMHO making assumptions like

over a prototype like this doesn't make sense at all.

Or can you back up your assumptions?

A flying wing is not a technology, it's a body design. We know that TAI studied flying wings extensively already with scale models and non flying models.

Anka-3 is presented as a prototype for the future flying wing UCAV, not as a tech/capability demonstrator. Whether you call Anka-3 just a demonstrator and the elusive Anka-4 the real deal, that doesn't change my point of the true VLO flying wing UCAV being years away.

If this current design minus the telemetry gear is close to the end product, Anka-3 will not be a VLO aircraft.

 

[Sanchez]

From ChatGPT:

Yeah, no. ChatGPT doesn't know things, it's a language model. And it's more steerable than a puppy. I assume you asked "Is a flying wing a technology?" and got that answer. Here's another:

I only said that the purpose of this current prototype is per se the flying wing technology and not a prototype close to serial production.

I disagree with that. We didn't see TAI's testing of the previous demonstrators and scale models, which may lead one to think that Anka-3 is the first iteration. It isn't. Dassault for example was much more open with it, showcasing AVE-D and C in fairs and magazines years before. Anka-3 is a working prototype on its way to be incurred into service in time, of course with changes. But it's not a capability demonstrator or a testbed.
"Our ANKA-3 UAV will perform reconnaissance, surveillance, air-to-air and air-ground attack missions with its high payload carrying capacity, tailless structure and low radar cross-sectional area." Haluk Görgün.

Maybe TurAF is not interested in a VLO UCAV for now and will be happy with a LO design, but TAI did mention going for a VLO aircraft in the past, which is years away.

 

[TheInsider]

She looks awesome. Look at all those protruding antennas and sensors and the LOS antenna. Got years of development ahead of it to be a true very low observable flying wing. Such a hard task at hand.


Really doubt it, they won't use a prototype as a chase plane.

I thought that too but the paint on the Hürkuş is a primer paint. It might be a new production for export

 

[Sanchez]

I thought that too but the paint on the Hürkuş is a primer paint. It might be a new production for export

Yup, then I remembered, Hürkuş-2 wouldn't have a yellow primer paint on it as it's supposed to be an all composite body. Hopefully for export, or one a prototype converted to a chase plane.

 

[Sanchez]

So you are telling me that you know better than the systems engineering manager of the ANKA 3 project himself?

Well yes, he's the systems manager, giving a dumbed down interview in between his actual job. I watched the thing the day it was released last year.
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Kaan doesn't have a radar, we don't call it a technology demonstrator. I thought my point was very clear. We have many years ahead of us for a VLO flying wing UCAV. Nothing in the video disputes this.

 

[Radko]

She looks awesome. Look at all those protruding antennas and sensors and the LOS antenna. Got years of development ahead of it to be a true very low observable flying wing. Such a hard task at hand.


Really doubt it, they won't use a prototype as a chase plane.

I wouldn't say years tbh. ASELSAN is on prototyping and testing phase for conformal antennas of all kinds

 

[Oublious]

Can someone explain what is that thing sticking out under the drone?

 

[Radko]

Can someone explain what is that thing sticking out under the drone?

LOS antenna iirc

 

[Oublious]

LOS antenna iirc

ok, they shoudl get rid off with next prototype....

 

[Sanchez]

I wouldn't say years tbh. ASELSAN is on prototyping and testing phase for conformal antennas of all kinds

I'm believing they can, pitot design is just as hard tho. Kaan also still uses regular ones. But If NG did it in 80s, we can do it too.

 

[Radko]

I'm believing they can, pitot design is just as hard tho. Kaan also still uses regular ones. But If NG did it in 80s, we can do it too.

it is of course doable, but necessary? I don't think so. F-35/22, J-20/35, Su-57/75 all use it

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

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