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[Strong AI]

A flying wing is not a technology, it's a body design.

From ChatGPT:

"Yes, a flying wing can be considered a technology. The term "technology" broadly refers to the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, especially in industry. A flying wing, which is an aircraft design that lacks a distinct fuselage and tail, relying on its wings to provide both lift and control, is the result of advanced engineering and aerodynamics.

The concept of a flying wing involves sophisticated design principles, materials, and systems that enable it to achieve efficient flight. Innovations in aerodynamics, structural integrity, and control systems are all technological aspects that make a flying wing a viable and efficient design, particularly for applications like military stealth aircraft, where minimizing radar cross-section is crucial.

In summary, the flying wing design embodies multiple technological advancements, making it a distinct and specialized example of technology in aerospace engineering."

We know that TAI studied flying wings extensively already with scale models and non flying models.

You can't compare a scale model to the current prototype.
I only said that the purpose of this current prototype is per se the flying wing technology and not a prototype close to serial production.

 

[Strong AI]

@Sanchez

Let's hear it from the systems engineering manager of the ANKA 3 project himself.

interview about ANKA 3.

Short summary (feel free to correct me):

- The purpose of this prototype is to test the flyability (they already tested it with a smaller model)
- There are many countries, who want to develope this drone together with TAI (because it is not a well-known technology and hard to obtain)
- After this prototype, TAI will apply stealth features, like a hidden nozzle, RAM paint, etc.
- ANKA 3 will be a family of flying wing drones, there will be lighter and heavier versions, as well as a naval version (the idea of a naval version was known during the design phase)
- TAI has no problem to integrate different engines and sensors to ANKA 3 (a big plus for export)
- There will be a version with TOYGUN and AESA radar
- TAI can integrate all kind of sensors to ANKA 3, which they already have integrated to ANKA and AKSUNGUR

 

[Sanchez]

From ChatGPT:

Yeah, no. ChatGPT doesn't know things, it's a language model. And it's more steerable than a puppy. I assume you asked "Is a flying wing a technology?" and got that answer. Here's another:

I only said that the purpose of this current prototype is per se the flying wing technology and not a prototype close to serial production.

I disagree with that. We didn't see TAI's testing of the previous demonstrators and scale models, which may lead one to think that Anka-3 is the first iteration. It isn't. Dassault for example was much more open with it, showcasing AVE-D and C in fairs and magazines years before. Anka-3 is a working prototype on its way to be incurred into service in time, of course with changes. But it's not a capability demonstrator or a testbed.
"Our ANKA-3 UAV will perform reconnaissance, surveillance, air-to-air and air-ground attack missions with its high payload carrying capacity, tailless structure and low radar cross-sectional area." Haluk Görgün.

Maybe TurAF is not interested in a VLO UCAV for now and will be happy with a LO design, but TAI did mention going for a VLO aircraft in the past, which is years away.

 

[TheInsider]

She looks awesome. Look at all those protruding antennas and sensors and the LOS antenna. Got years of development ahead of it to be a true very low observable flying wing. Such a hard task at hand.


Really doubt it, they won't use a prototype as a chase plane.

I thought that too but the paint on the Hürkuş is a primer paint. It might be a new production for export

 

[Sanchez]

I thought that too but the paint on the Hürkuş is a primer paint. It might be a new production for export

Yup, then I remembered, Hürkuş-2 wouldn't have a yellow primer paint on it as it's supposed to be an all composite body. Hopefully for export, or one a prototype converted to a chase plane.

 

[Strong AI]

Yeah, no. ChatGPT doesn't know things, it's a language model. And it's more steerable than a puppy. I assume you asked "Is a flying wing a technology?" and got that answer.

So you are telling me that you know better than the systems engineering manager of the ANKA 3 project himself?
Watch from 05:45 min please.
And when you at it watch the whole thing please and you will know then what i am talking about.

interview about ANKA 3.

 

[Strong AI]

Anka-3 is a working prototype on its way to be incurred into service in time, of course with changes. But it's not a capability demonstrator or a testbed.

- The purpose of this prototype is to test the flyability (they already tested it with a smaller model)
- There are many countries, who want to develope this drone together with TAI (because it is not a well-known technology and hard to obtain)
- After this prototype, TAI will apply stealth features, like a hidden nozzle, RAM paint, etc.

 

[Sanchez]

So you are telling me that you know better than the systems engineering manager of the ANKA 3 project himself?

Well yes, he's the systems manager, giving a dumbed down interview in between his actual job. I watched the thing the day it was released last year.
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Kaan doesn't have a radar, we don't call it a technology demonstrator. I thought my point was very clear. We have many years ahead of us for a VLO flying wing UCAV. Nothing in the video disputes this.

 

[Strong AI]

Well yes, he's the systems manager, giving a dumbed down interview in between his actual job.

This is just your opinion and not a fact, like i only wrote about my opinion (but backed it up as you can see)

We have many years ahead of us for a VLO flying wing UCAV.

Time will tell.

 

[Radonsider]

She looks awesome. Look at all those protruding antennas and sensors and the LOS antenna. Got years of development ahead of it to be a true very low observable flying wing. Such a hard task at hand.


Really doubt it, they won't use a prototype as a chase plane.

I wouldn't say years tbh. ASELSAN is on prototyping and testing phase for conformal antennas of all kinds

 

[Oublious]

Can someone explain what is that thing sticking out under the drone?

 

[Radonsider]

Can someone explain what is that thing sticking out under the drone?

LOS antenna iirc

 

[Oublious]

LOS antenna iirc

ok, they shoudl get rid off with next prototype....

 

[Sanchez]

I wouldn't say years tbh. ASELSAN is on prototyping and testing phase for conformal antennas of all kinds

I'm believing they can, pitot design is just as hard tho. Kaan also still uses regular ones. But If NG did it in 80s, we can do it too.

 

[Radonsider]

I'm believing they can, pitot design is just as hard tho. Kaan also still uses regular ones. But If NG did it in 80s, we can do it too.

it is of course doable, but necessary? I don't think so. F-35/22, J-20/35, Su-57/75 all use it

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

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[fushkee]

So clean-cut.

 

[TheInsider]

Anka-3 will change similar to Kızılelma prototypes. Engine section will be modified for RCS and antennas will change.

 

[zio]

I write a message to ömer erkmen for the motto of anka 3.#First to come First to gone#