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I don't know, Kiel isn't known for peddling nonsense mate.

*Ukraine has 3x patriot batteries operational at the time when we read about Kinzal and Zircon interception.

*And these 3d batteries are NOT deployed at th same place with overlapping coverage. 2x batteries in Kiev. And third one is somewhere else/mostly Kharkiv.

*Two patriot battery has two AN/MPQ-53 radars. And Each can guide 18 interceptors at 9 targets. That means maximum 36x interceptots at once.

*Assuming the interceptor is PAC-2, launching all 32 launchers means guiding 128x missiles toward 1 target. Not only practically absurd but technically impossible.

*That's me being generous. Because usually it is a mix of PAC-2 and PAC-3. In that case, numbers of launched interceptors are twice or more. The whole proposition then becomes even bigger nonsense.
 
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*Ukraine has 3x patriot batteries operational at the time when we read about Kinzal and Zircon interception.

*And these 3d batteries are NOT deployed at th same place with overlapping coverage. 2x batteries in Kiev. And third one is somewhere else/mostly Kharkiv.

*Two patriot battery has two AN/MPQ-53 radars. And Each can guide 18 interceptors at 9 targets. That means maximum 36x interceptots at once.

*Assuming the interceptor is PAC-2, launching all 32 launchers means guiding 128x missiles toward 1 target. Not only practically absurd but technically impossible.

*That's me being generous. Because usually it is a mix of PAC-3 and PAC-3. In that case, numbers of launched interceptors are twice or more. The whole proposition then becomes even bigger nonsense.
Maybe its mathematically saying " to reach reliable interception rate of hypersonics you would need that many missiles which is not possible "
 

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Maybe its mathematically saying " to reach reliable interception rate of hypersonics you would need that many missiles which is not possible "

I don't think this is a correct explanation.
 

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*Ukraine has 3x patriot batteries operational at the time when we read about Kinzal and Zircon interception.

*And these 3d batteries are NOT deployed at th same place with overlapping coverage. 2x batteries in Kiev. And third one is somewhere else/mostly Kharkiv.

*Two patriot battery has two AN/MPQ-53 radars. And Each can guide 18 interceptors at 9 targets. That means maximum 36x interceptots at once.

*Assuming the interceptor is PAC-2, launching all 32 launchers means guiding 128x missiles toward 1 target. Not only practically absurd but technically impossible.

*That's me being generous. Because usually it is a mix of PAC-3 and PAC-3. In that case, numbers of launched interceptors are twice or more. The whole proposition then becomes even bigger nonsense.
Mate, you're making assumptions, Kiel is quoting Ukrainian sources. You can call it nonsense if you want but Kiel is very trustworthy and they wouldn't something like that in an article they publish without having proper sources. But, you do you.
 

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Mate, you're making assumptions, Kiel is quoting Ukrainian sources. You can call it nonsense if you want but Kiel is very trustworthy and they wouldn't something like that in an article they publish without having proper sources. But, you do you.

Those are facts. There are technical limitations of launching all interceptors from 32x launchers at once and guiding them.

Let's just agree to disagree.
 
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