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Some projects of Tübitak SAGE are shelved. As far as I know, G40 is one of them.

Hisar-O RF seeker improvements are related to the naval environment. The major improvement is against RF sea clutter when intercepting super sea-skimming missiles.

IIR improvement might be related to the HOT T2SL and MCT detectors. I have been hearing big breakthroughs from Aselsan in the HOT IIR photodetectors area. HOT detectors provide the same performance but require less cryogenic cooling. Less cryogenic cooling means less power consumption, smaller cooling solution, etc. That means SWaP-C gains.

Radar is Kalkan-II
It has multiple beam forming, pulse compression, pulse coding, Advanced ECCM etc. good stuff.
 

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I think Hisar -O hit to kill without explosive warhead in the video
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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
 

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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
You heard wrong.if there is such news its not true.
 

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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .

You heard wrong.if there is such news its not true.
The suggestion that Cavit Çağlar made in his interview with Cansu Çamlıbel was reflected in some foreign sources as "Turkey can sell it to India or Pakistan" and from there it bounced back to Turkey.

 

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The Turkish army tested a long-range missile for the Hisar-O air defense system. The Turkish Hisar-O medium-range air defense system is expected to become the basis of Turkey's Steel Dome air defense system. The missile reportedly successfully hit a target at a distance of more than 40 kilometers. The Hisar-O air defense system was first unveiled by the Turkish company Aselsan in 2015. The Hisar-O air defense system is capable of detecting and tracking a fighter-type target at a distance of up to 60 km. On August 15, the Turkiye newspaper reported that Turkey intends to use Russian S-400 air defense systems until its own air defense system is created.

 

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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
It's not a official statement by any means. It is just two sentences from an unimportant interview with a guy that was a Sports Minister back in the 90's, with very minimal connection to the current government. Spineless Turkish media made it big news for clickbait. When it became a big news in Turkish media then English-speaking media took it as if some kind of a official declaration of intent. So, it is just nothing. S-400's will just rot on their depots in Akıncı Air Force Base without ever seeing action or moving a single meter.
 

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Close Air Defense System for Naval Platforms #GÖKSUR ! With #GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System developed within the framework of the cooperation of 🚀

🤝
@SageTubitak
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@aselsan
, our national ships will be protected against challenging air targets, especially anti-ship missiles flying close to the surface.

🌬️ #GÖKSUR The tests of the GÖKSUR Missile, the high-capacity ammunition of the Product Family, were completed by TÜBİTAK SAGE in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

🚀 GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System

🔥 360 degree Threat Destruction Capability,
👁️ New Generation Imager Infrared, IIR Seeker Head,
💥 Fragmentation Warhead for Current Targets,
🛡️ Multiple Target Interception Capability,
🚀 Ability to work independently and/or integrated with the platform,
🔗 Intermediate Stage Guidance with Data Link,
🎯 It will have many powerful features such as High Probability of Single Shot Interception.

 

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CAM ON SCOR SOM TESTS I say, 2024 is approaching the last quarter at this point and it has been stated in the past two IDEFs that firing will take place in 2024.
 

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Close Air Defense System for Naval Platforms #GÖKSUR ! With #GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System developed within the framework of the cooperation of 🚀

🤝
@SageTubitak
and
@aselsan
, our national ships will be protected against challenging air targets, especially anti-ship missiles flying close to the surface.

🌬️ #GÖKSUR The tests of the GÖKSUR Missile, the high-capacity ammunition of the Product Family, were completed by TÜBİTAK SAGE in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

🚀 GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System

🔥 360 degree Threat Destruction Capability,
👁️ New Generation Imager Infrared, IIR Seeker Head,
💥 Fragmentation Warhead for Current Targets,
🛡️ Multiple Target Interception Capability,
🚀 Ability to work independently and/or integrated with the platform,
🔗 Intermediate Stage Guidance with Data Link,
🎯 It will have many powerful features such as High Probability of Single Shot Interception.

I thought, Göksur was the name of system and Bozdoğan would be used as missile in it. Göksur appears to be a missile .
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So what is difference between göksur with Bozdoğan?
 
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So what is difference between göksur with Bozdoğan?
Navy changed the name of 3 army/air force systems so far. Umtas became Temren, Hisar became Sapan, and now Bozdoğan to Göksur IIR. See the same sentence changing in a year:

July 2023: "As an interceptor missile, GÖKSUR uses the BOZDOĞAN missile developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE and updated according to the air defense needs of naval platforms."


August 2024: "As an interceptor missile, the system uses the GÖKSUR IIR missile developed by TÜBİTAK SAGE according to the air defense needs of naval platforms. Designed by adapting the BOZDOĞAN air-to-air missile to naval platforms and adding features such as bidirectional data link and vertical firing capability, the wind tunnel tests, one of the critical thresholds of the GÖKSUR IIR missile, were completed using TÜBİTAK SAGE infrastructure."

For once, it means less names, and I like it. Göksur CIWS and its Göksur IIR interceptor missile.
 

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Interesting wording from Güler.

"This initiative, led by Germany, is an important step towards the fulfillment of NATO's requirements while ensuring interoperability and integration of allies. Turkey is ready to contribute to this initiative with a wide range of national capabilities. I would like to thank Germany for its coordinating role in this important initiative. We will be pleased to work with you in this initiative that serves the concept of collective defense"


So did Türkiye join ESSI for trying to sell Steel Dome to european countries?
 

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So did Türkiye join ESSI for trying to sell Steel Dome to european countries?
Maybe, maybe something related to that. But ESSI as I understand it is less about joint development and more about pooling together money to buy the set systems Germany operates for the members, like the Patriot, Arrow 3, Iris-T etc. Maybe ESSI funds part of our Steel Dome for use in Turkey? Weirder things happened in the past, and this is a strategic matter.
 

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Close Air Defense System for Naval Platforms #GÖKSUR ! With #GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System developed within the framework of the cooperation of 🚀

🤝
@SageTubitak
and
@aselsan
, our national ships will be protected against challenging air targets, especially anti-ship missiles flying close to the surface.

🌬️ #GÖKSUR The tests of the GÖKSUR Missile, the high-capacity ammunition of the Product Family, were completed by TÜBİTAK SAGE in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

🚀 GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System

🔥 360 degree Threat Destruction Capability,
👁️ New Generation Imager Infrared, IIR Seeker Head,
💥 Fragmentation Warhead for Current Targets,
🛡️ Multiple Target Interception Capability,
🚀 Ability to work independently and/or integrated with the platform,
🔗 Intermediate Stage Guidance with Data Link,
🎯 It will have many powerful features such as High Probability of Single Shot Interception.

RAM missiles have two passive RF emitters on their seeker.If a warship with RAM system and EW capabilty,under attack of antiship missiles with RF seeker J band,you have to shut down your ship based EW system otherwise jamming can lead interference with fired ram missile occur.Roketsan give up passive RF emitter on the seeker of levent missiles,and let alone IIR seeker.Beside some of the antiship missiles do not have RF seeker.So göksur system is a good solution on board missiles with dual band,cooled IIR seeker two way date link and 4 mach speed,thrust vektoring,plus stand alone aesa radar.
 
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So did Türkiye join ESSI for trying to sell Steel Dome to european countries?
Need a more impressive name, like Titanium Dome :D :p

I think the person who named the Steel Dome should be dismissed😡

Such wannabe/copied names do not suit a country with a glorious and ancient history like ours.

It could have been one of the guardian spirits of Turk mythology, such as "Umay- Ayıısıt, Yayık, Suyla, Karlık, Kayberen, Utkuuçi, Aan Alahçın", etc.
 
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