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🇹🇷 With the power of national engineering, the technological shields of our skies are also getting stronger.
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In the field of #GökVatan , which extends from the lowest ⬇️ to the highest ⬆️ , the reliable systems of #ÇelikKubbe are developing.
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🚀 HİSAR O With the Extended Range Shooting Test, the target was destroyed with a direct hit at 40+ kilometers.
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👨‍💻 I wholeheartedly congratulate our #ASELSAN and #ROKETSAN engineers, our children of the country, who work day and night, bring success and gain new skills. 👏🏻🇹🇷

They are slowly catching up with the requirement put for Hisar-D B1 and B2. B2 might get even better.
 

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Hisar block 2 may refer to 4 missile for one cell of Midlas.Although the hisar missiles slower than gökdoğan they have more NEZ.
 

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G40 might have been survived?
I don't think so, it was meant to keep common parts with Gökdoğan. This is Hisar-O.
Hisar block 2 may refer to 4 missile for one cell of Midlas.Although the hisar missiles slower than gökdoğan they have more NEZ.
G40 was thought to be a separate missile, based on Gökdoğan components. Not the Gökdemir version.
 

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Most likely, the effective range of the Hisar O'100 system is 40-60 km. The target already rotates between 40-60 km
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Some projects of Tübitak SAGE are shelved. As far as I know, G40 is one of them.

Hisar-O RF seeker improvements are related to the naval environment. The major improvement is against RF sea clutter when intercepting super sea-skimming missiles.

IIR improvement might be related to the HOT T2SL and MCT detectors. I have been hearing big breakthroughs from Aselsan in the HOT IIR photodetectors area. HOT detectors provide the same performance but require less cryogenic cooling. Less cryogenic cooling means less power consumption, smaller cooling solution, etc. That means SWaP-C gains.

Radar is Kalkan-II
It has multiple beam forming, pulse compression, pulse coding, Advanced ECCM etc. good stuff.
 

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I think Hisar -O hit to kill without explosive warhead in the video
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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
 
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I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
You heard wrong.if there is such news its not true.
 

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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .

You heard wrong.if there is such news its not true.
The suggestion that Cavit Çağlar made in his interview with Cansu Çamlıbel was reflected in some foreign sources as "Turkey can sell it to India or Pakistan" and from there it bounced back to Turkey.

 

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The Turkish army tested a long-range missile for the Hisar-O air defense system. The Turkish Hisar-O medium-range air defense system is expected to become the basis of Turkey's Steel Dome air defense system. The missile reportedly successfully hit a target at a distance of more than 40 kilometers. The Hisar-O air defense system was first unveiled by the Turkish company Aselsan in 2015. The Hisar-O air defense system is capable of detecting and tracking a fighter-type target at a distance of up to 60 km. On August 15, the Turkiye newspaper reported that Turkey intends to use Russian S-400 air defense systems until its own air defense system is created.

 

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Hi,
I heard that Turkey goverment is selling its unused S-400 missiles probably to Pakistan or India.
Kindly provide any news/information that to which country ,Turkey will sell its S-400 missiles .
It's not a official statement by any means. It is just two sentences from an unimportant interview with a guy that was a Sports Minister back in the 90's, with very minimal connection to the current government. Spineless Turkish media made it big news for clickbait. When it became a big news in Turkish media then English-speaking media took it as if some kind of a official declaration of intent. So, it is just nothing. S-400's will just rot on their depots in Akıncı Air Force Base without ever seeing action or moving a single meter.
 

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CAM ON SCOR SOM TESTS I say, 2024 is approaching the last quarter at this point and it has been stated in the past two IDEFs that firing will take place in 2024.
 

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Close Air Defense System for Naval Platforms #GÖKSUR ! With #GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System developed within the framework of the cooperation of 🚀

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, our national ships will be protected against challenging air targets, especially anti-ship missiles flying close to the surface.

🌬️ #GÖKSUR The tests of the GÖKSUR Missile, the high-capacity ammunition of the Product Family, were completed by TÜBİTAK SAGE in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

🚀 GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System

🔥 360 degree Threat Destruction Capability,
👁️ New Generation Imager Infrared, IIR Seeker Head,
💥 Fragmentation Warhead for Current Targets,
🛡️ Multiple Target Interception Capability,
🚀 Ability to work independently and/or integrated with the platform,
🔗 Intermediate Stage Guidance with Data Link,
🎯 It will have many powerful features such as High Probability of Single Shot Interception.

I thought, Göksur was the name of system and Bozdoğan would be used as missile in it. Göksur appears to be a missile .
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So what is difference between göksur with Bozdoğan?
 
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So what is difference between göksur with Bozdoğan?
Navy changed the name of 3 army/air force systems so far. Umtas became Temren, Hisar became Sapan, and now Bozdoğan to Göksur IIR. See the same sentence changing in a year:

July 2023: "As an interceptor missile, GÖKSUR uses the BOZDOĞAN missile developed by TÜBİTAK-SAGE and updated according to the air defense needs of naval platforms."


August 2024: "As an interceptor missile, the system uses the GÖKSUR IIR missile developed by TÜBİTAK SAGE according to the air defense needs of naval platforms. Designed by adapting the BOZDOĞAN air-to-air missile to naval platforms and adding features such as bidirectional data link and vertical firing capability, the wind tunnel tests, one of the critical thresholds of the GÖKSUR IIR missile, were completed using TÜBİTAK SAGE infrastructure."

For once, it means less names, and I like it. Göksur CIWS and its Göksur IIR interceptor missile.
 
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