Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[FiReFTW]

What has happened? Russia decided to attack Ukraine, expecting Ukraine to fold in a few days by the Red army taking Kiev. Unexpectedly that did not happen. A large number of countries then decided to support Ukraine by supplying it with weapons. Many countries that supplied weapons to Ukraine forbade Ukraine to use them to strike at targets in Russia, such as military bases used to strike Ukraine.

Tell me, are North Korea and Iran supplying weapons to Russia with the proviso that they must not be used to strike at military bases within Ukraine? I don't think so.

What Ukraine is asking is for permission to use the weapons it has to undermine Russia's ability to attack it by hitting at the source of those attacks inside Russia. In my view it is logical and legal for a country under attack to try to reduce the incidence of attacks it suffers by striking at their source.

Escalation: the ultimate escalation is to replace a state of peace with a state of war, as Russia has done.

Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons so obviously no, but you don't want to play with someone who does have, the most nuclear weapons in the world, I mean how st*pid can you get... even zelensky said Ukraine has no interest in going after russian territory or attacking russian territory a while ago, now suddenly lone and behold he changes his mind, i wonder why.

 

[contricusc]

Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons so obviously no, but you don't want to play with someone who does have, the most nuclear weapons in the world, I mean how st*pid can you get... even zelensky said Ukraine has no interest in going after russian territory or attacking russian territory a while ago, now suddenly lone and behold he changes his mind, i wonder why.

You seem to be very concerned about the escalation made by Western nations, but you always forget that the only real escalation was made by Russia when it invaded.

Russia can easily deescalate the conflict anytime it wants to, not through nuclear weapons, but by withdrawing from Ukraine and making peace.

If Russia is concerned that NATO tanks will be at the gates of Moscow, it can simply withdraw from Ukraine now and there will be peace again, and nobody will bomb or invade Russia. Pretty simple and cheap solution. It doesn’t cost them money or soldiers.

As long as Russia is in Ukraine, NATO should escalate as much as it wants, because Russia always has the “cheat card” of ending the conflict whenever it has had enough, by withdrawing from Ukraine.

 

[Relic]

USA announced some of it's current production numbers for some the most important munitions it sends to Ukraine. They are as follows...

155mm artillery shells
Current production rates
Per month: 40,000
Per year: 480,000

2025 target production rates
Per month: 80,000
Per year: 960,000

GMLRS
Current production rates
Per month: 833-1167
Per year: 9,986-14,004

2025 target production rates
Per month: 1167
Per year: 14,004

Javelin
Current production rates
Per month: 175-200
Per year: 2100-2400

2025 target production rates
Per month: 250
Per year: 3000

AIM-9X
Current production rates
Per month: 116-137
Per year: 1392-1644

2025 target production rates
Per month: 208
Per year: 2500

PAC-3 Patriot Missile
Current production rates
Per month: 42
Per year: 504

2015 target production rates
Per month: 46
Per year: 552

Fact Sheet on Efforts of Ukraine Defense Contact Group – National Armaments Directors

Focused on accelerating capability deliveries to Ukraine by synchronizing international procurement, production, and sustainment efforts, the National Armaments Directors under the auspices of the

www.defense.gov

 

[TheInsider]

Artillery shells have a long way to catch up to the Russian production levels but combined NATO production should be close to the Russian level. This is also proof that air-defense missiles can't win the war in the long run against cruise and ballistic missiles. 500 Patriot PAC-3 is not enough. Russian total cruise and ballistic missile production should be at least double that amount. Chinese have automated factories to produce cruise missiles. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese can produce a thousand cruise missiles per month. It is a lost cause.

 

[contricusc]

Artillery shells have a long way to catch up to the Russian production levels but combined NATO production should be close to the Russian level. This is also proof that air-defense missiles can't win the war in the long run against cruise and ballistic missiles. 500 Patriot PAC-3 is not enough. Russian total cruise and ballistic missile production should be at least double that amount. Chinese have automated factories to produce cruise missiles. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese can produce a thousand cruise missiles per month. It is a lost cause.

Air-defense is a losing game. Expensive and ineffective. If you want to win against cruise and ballistic missiles, you need to overpower thier launch platforms and destroy the enemy’s ability to strike. Now add the cheap drones into the equation, and air-defense is even less effective, as it gets saturated by cheap drone waves.